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fivehundredton 10-04-2017 07:14 PM

How does my ecu know how fast I'm going?
 
...And why does it care. I noticed that vehicle speed was displayed among other things on my code reader. Stock '97 with cable to speedo. From the speedo itself I guess? Why?

18psi 10-04-2017 07:17 PM

aliens

shuiend 10-04-2017 07:19 PM

There is a wire that goes from your gauge cluster to your ECU.

fivehundredton 10-04-2017 07:19 PM

Should I call someone? But they might be cool cats and want to hang.

concealer404 10-04-2017 07:19 PM

But what if they harvest farts?

fivehundredton 10-04-2017 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1443951)
There is a wire that goes from your gauge cluster to your ECU.

Thanks, That's what I thought. What difference does road speed make?

fivehundredton 10-04-2017 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1443953)
But what if they harvest farts?

OUT man! They're out.

Savington 10-04-2017 08:53 PM

VSS into the ECU can be as simple as using it as an input for a slightly more advanced idle strategy. Or it's just an OBDII requirement.

18psi 10-04-2017 08:56 PM

most (all?) modern ecu's use vss for idle control. dunno how many years that goes back, but if you lose vss input on a modern car it throws a whole truckload of engine codes that seemingly have nothing to do with vss

codrus 10-04-2017 09:14 PM

VSS is useful for a lot of things in modern ECUs. Stability control, traction control, cruise control, airbag management, boost-by-gear (divide speed by RPM and you can figure out what gear it's in), all kinds of stuff relating to automatic transmission control, the list goes on.

As for your NA, yes, the speedo cluster converts the mechanical wire into an electrical signal and sends it to the ECU. Many of the above don't apply to an NA, but it's still useful in an OBD-2 ECU for debugging issues in the car -- VSS gets stored along with the other freeze frame data, which may help someone figure out what triggered the code.

--Ian

psyber_0ptix 10-04-2017 09:20 PM

I honestly had no clue that a signal is converted and sent back to the ecu on an NA. I need to dig around tuner Studio or see if it's wired up. Boost by gear may be great since I'm losing traction in third.

shuiend 10-04-2017 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1443984)
I honestly had no clue that a signal is converted and sent back to the ecu on an NA. I need to dig around tuner Studio or see if it's wired up. Boost by gear may be great since I'm losing traction in third.

I don't think the 1.6 cars have the wire, but you can run one.

Braineack 10-05-2017 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1443998)
I don't think the 1.6 cars have the wire, but you can run one.

there is a digital conversion in the cluster itself, that you can tap for an aftermarket ECU.

18psi 10-05-2017 10:18 AM

I'm not sure how nice it would play with your dual-table open loop flex-blended boost control though. Otherwise yes, BBG is useful on a monstrous Miata like yours

fivehundredton 10-05-2017 05:37 PM

Thanks to all above! Don't quote me on this yet but it may also sense what gear I'm in. Will check. Also sounds like Big Brother is in my 20 year old Miata, too.


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