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Ben 09-22-2008 07:05 PM

I have a gas problem
 
More specifically, I have a lack of gas problem. There isn't any. Every station I passed was dry, so I went out of my way to find more stations, but no joy. I have enough to get to work tomorrow, but probably not enough to make it back.

Not good.

oilstain 09-22-2008 07:49 PM

Less than the cost of one gallon, and you can run clear across the country: http://www.nexternal.com/armynavy/images/538GAS.gif

Braineack 09-22-2008 07:51 PM

seriously, water and gas drought...move somewhere with less ***** people.

patsmx5 09-22-2008 07:51 PM

That's definitely not good. +1 to oilstain's suggestion. Works every time.

Ben 09-22-2008 08:23 PM

if you get past the moral, ethical, and legal implications of siphoning fuel, then you need to remember that anything modern will have a locking filler door and an anti siphon valve.

I left my house at 7:07 in search of fuel. I passed 12 stations before finding one that had signs up and a line of cars outside. I waited 10 minutes to get a pump. All they had was 87. I got about 9/10ths of a gallon of 87 in the tank before the pump cut off. "Out of gas. Out of gas." came through the station's speakers.

Drove around for 30+ more minutes until finally I found a station that had only premium. Filled up. Just got back in.

KPLAFIN 09-22-2008 08:26 PM

Damn...I'd be borrowing a truck and some 50 gallon drums and making a road trip...sell 10/gallon gas to all your neighbors :bigtu:

patsmx5 09-22-2008 08:27 PM

Damn that's gotta suck. Why is there a gas shortage? We had a few stations run out last weekend, but that was from the stock market shit I do believe. Big panic and everyone was filling up. Is that the case right now in Atlanta?

y8s 09-22-2008 08:38 PM

watch people think we need more oil.

how many refineries were shut down in the south because of Ike?

Ben 09-22-2008 08:44 PM

Metro Atlanta is required by the EPA to use a unique blend of fuel not found anywhere else. The pipelines coming from the texas area are running a limited capacity so a reduced amount of this specific blend is coming through. The reason why stations are running dry is probably not due to just the reduced supply, but is probably a compound effect of panic and supply.

Many cities have unique blends. Some cities may have 2 or 3 different blends. It's freakin bullshit and one of the reasons why gas is so high.

The oil companies have asked the EPA to allow non Atl region specific fuel to be sent to Atlanta until supplies have reached normal levels again. Wouldn't take more than a couple days. So far, that's a no go.

So Atl is running out of water because of poor Army CoE regulations and running out of fuel because of poor EPA regulations. And no one in power will do a damn thing to fix it.

urgaynknowit 09-22-2008 08:48 PM

i dont know what i would do if i ran out of gas, like couldnt get any...


whats going on with this country lately

Rafa 09-22-2008 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by urgaynknowit (Post 311195)


whats going on with this country lately

Good question.

patsmx5 09-22-2008 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by Rafa (Post 311214)
Good question.

+1. The BS here is getting worse and worse by the day.

oilstain 09-22-2008 09:52 PM

Looking to move checklist:
Affordable housing: check
Plentiful IT jobs: check
gas: fuck.
water: fuck!

Okay, I guess Atlanta is out. San Antonio is still in the running though, I think. In this day and age, some things you just take for granted, like having water...

I know, great idea! Let's encourage farmers to all grow corn so we can use all the water in the whole country to produce 4.5 gallons of fuel.

I should be in charge here...

RotorNutFD3S 09-22-2008 09:53 PM

And moreover, the local media is not doing anything but helping the panic along with their bullshit stories on the gas issue.

As far as water goes, I have a well that has some pretty damn good water, so no drought here.

patsmx5 09-22-2008 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by oilstain (Post 311220)
I know, great idea! Let's encourage farmers to all grow corn so we can use all the water in the whole country to produce 4.5 gallons of fuel.

Better yet, we should pay them NOT to grow it.

urgaynknowit 09-22-2008 10:01 PM

im going to grow corn,,, pay me not to!!!!!!! woot woot!

oilstain 09-22-2008 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by urgaynknowit (Post 311232)
im going to grow corn,,, pay me not to!!!!!!! woot woot!

Can you grow corn on the bottom of rusty-ass-Miatas? I wasn't aware.

Arkmage 09-22-2008 11:08 PM

half our gas stations are still closed or empty due to ike. we still have like 800K people without power.

naarleven 09-22-2008 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by oilstain (Post 311220)
Looking to move checklist:
Affordable housing: check
Plentiful IT jobs: check
gas: fuck.
water: fuck!

Okay, I guess Atlanta is out. San Antonio is still in the running though, I think. In this day and age, some things you just take for granted, like having water...

I know, great idea! Let's encourage farmers to all grow corn so we can use all the water in the whole country to produce 4.5 gallons of fuel.

I should be in charge here...

Move to Mumbai, has all of those.

naarleven 09-22-2008 11:42 PM

Throw in a 25 dollar surge in price for October deliveries of crude oil.

Lack of gas + expensive gas + more expensive oil. Sigh

elesjuan 09-23-2008 12:39 AM

I guess Kansas isn't so bad after all. Nearly saw my first tornado last weekend too. :)

Job market isn't fantastic, but housing and utilities are very affordable in many areas.

Toddcod 09-23-2008 08:28 AM

This gas thing is BS.
We used to have hurricans all the time and never have any shortages.
That is what the reserves are for. We need to use them.
And gas prices going up to spectulation should be stopped.
Our fine country is corrupt and sold out to the oil companies.
And we are paying for it.

y8s 09-23-2008 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by urgaynknowit (Post 311195)
i dont know what i would do if i ran out of gas, like couldnt get any...


whats going on with this country lately

Do you really need to ask? Hint: dont let a former oil tycoon make decisions about oil-related foreign policy.

JDMAflac 09-23-2008 11:19 AM

I spent 45 minutes last night at 1:30am trying to find gas, only to end up with 89 octane in hickville. I can sympathize with you.

Ben 09-28-2008 09:42 AM

This situation continues to get WORSE, not better. There is NO GAS in metro Atlanta.
And I'm not kidding or exaggerating. At first only certain grades were out, then intermittent outages at certain stations. Now it's nowhere. The station near my house I typically fill up at has not had fuel of any kind in over a week. The couple of stations that had fuel on Friday were selling 87octane at $8.89 per gallon! And of course had lines as it was that or nothing.

My rush hour commute friday was nearly a ghost town. There are few cars on the road, no one is going anywhere. There are plenty of abandoned cars on the sides of roads and at gas station parking lots--out of fuel and stuck.

I saw ONE station with fuel yesterday. ONE out of the many dozens I passed. They did not have fuel on my way to where I was going, but did several hours later on my return trip. It was a large station with 15-20 pumps. It was completely full and had at least 50 cars waiting in both the 2 streets that service it (station was at an intersection). There were cops everywhere directing and monitoring.

This has got to be more than crippling to the local economy. The stations aren't making money. People can't get anywhere to spend money. People won't be able to go to work to make money. The businesses with absent workers will suffer, etc etc etc.

I'm not going anywhere else this weekend. My cars are parked. I'd like to go out and enjoy this beautiful weather, but if I do so, I won't have any fuel to get to work Monday! And if I don't get to refuel Monday, I may not have fuel to get to work Tuesday!

I visited the national news websites. Even CNN, based in Atlanta, headlines multiple stories about Paul Newman's death and Scarlett Johanesn's wedding. RIP Mr Newman. Scarlett is very hot (I'd PITTB), but the reality is I want gas to go to work more! How is either of those stories more important than crushing the SE economy?

If it happens here, to my region, it can happen to any other region of the US. Or it can happen to the US as a whole. This has gone beyond crisis here. Is this even making news? I don't see much of this on the national news shows. And it's looking like we'll need national attention to get this taken care of.

Atlanta93LE 09-28-2008 11:14 AM

Saw it on CNN several times in the past week.

m2cupcar 09-28-2008 01:13 PM

In town it's the same story. There are people sitting in their cars in front of pumps waiting for the tanker to pull in. We called around last night and the Kroger said they had a tanker coming in at 7am. Wife called this morning and they had gas. She hauled ass up there and said by the time she was through filling up the line to get gas went on for an eternity. And nothing low octane too. She did fill up a six gallon can so we should be good for the next 4 weeks. :giggle: Though my car has less than 1/4 tank, so I'll have to find some for me or do a low octane toulene mix. ;)

patsmx5 09-28-2008 01:31 PM

That really sucks. Damn. I dunno what to tell you, but that's bad.

wildfire0310 09-28-2008 03:52 PM

It sucks. The local QT next to my house lucky seems to be getting gas ever day, but unless I got at 3am there is a line 1/2 down a 4 line highway of people trying to get gas, it sucks. The worst part is the local gas stations are getting their normal weekly amounts but people are freaking out and draining the tanks as soon as they fill.

I am so sick of this crap.

Ben 09-28-2008 06:34 PM

Breaking news: I got $30 of 87 at $4/gal with just a small wait time. Most people are probably eating Sunday dinner. I saw another station at 4.39/gal that had some fairly long lines.

Neither had anything other than 87. No others stations had gas of any grade. All that carry diesel seem to have it.

disturbedfan121 09-28-2008 06:41 PM

dont have a problem with running out of gasin NJ, i bet you all wish you had the most of the refineries in your state now dont ya lol

o yea btw. 3.63/gallon for 93:giggle::fawk:

Stealth97 09-28-2008 06:51 PM

There is not much problem getting any grade you want here, you just have to wait to get it, lines look like they are hours long.

I recently took a trip to columbus, they had plenty of gas there. Someone is not telling us the whole story.

CNN says this will continue for several weeks, if it truly does it could ruin my gap plans

Ben 09-28-2008 07:04 PM

Wow, there's gas and in multiple grades in Columbus and in Woodstock?
Hopefully that's a good indicator of it coming back here too! And hopefully it's that nice less oxygenated high sulfur stuff that gives better power and economy. I don't need no stinkin oxygen in my gas, I get it via my turbo thank you very much.

Stealth97 09-28-2008 07:32 PM

There is multiple grades available in woodstock... all though most gas stations are completely out, Premium seems to last longest.

There is no gas shortage at all in columbus. I dont believe there ever was... but thats 150 miles away

m2cupcar 09-29-2008 07:50 AM

Neighbor just came back from Augusta and said there was all the gas you could want just east of Conyers on 20. I believe much of it is metro-gas-panic. No surprise there.

RotorNutFD3S 09-29-2008 10:50 AM

Yeah, definitely metro-panic. Yesterday, we hit a QT on 85-South at Spaghetti Junction and waited about 5 minutes to fill up. No mid or premium though.

Down here where I am, it's very hit and miss, and most only have 87. Go further south and there's gas to be had, however, the next exit away is 6 miles, and the next after that is almost 15 miles more.

944obscene 09-29-2008 11:18 AM

I've never seen a shortage here in Tulsa. In fact, I only worry about prices if anything. And Tulsa has some of the lowest prices around. I turn into a whiny bitch when prices go up. I should save myself the trouble and ride my bike to work. It'd be a 20-25 minute commute on an 18 speed and with weather as nice as it is, I wouldn't have to worry about sweating my ass off to get there. On the other hand, I might just buy a cheap used crotch rocket and enjoy going 2 weeks on a tank. I don't want no stinkin 250 Ninja though. Maybe an SV 650 or something. I'm gonna go look.

Ben 09-29-2008 12:02 PM

Today's supply seems to be better than it has in the past several days.
Still haven't seen premium in a couple weeks.

Good thing the governor went to Europe. He should come back and pray for rain in front of the capitol again.

hrk 09-29-2008 02:50 PM

BP and Chevron had 93 octane this morning at Old Milton (120) and Satellite Boulevard. This was 7.15 am and there were no lines.

Suwanee, buford and Sugar Hill seemed to be dry Sunday evening.
No gas in Norcross area I know of.
Not good time to ride a bike with 130 mile radius between fills, or Turbo Miata in hands of 18 year old with 87 octane for that matter

hrk

naarleven 09-29-2008 03:21 PM

Damn, there was a temp shortage down in Tallahassee, but I spent most of the week in Orlando and no one had even heard of a gas shortage. By time I was back north in Tallahassee, everywhere had gas.

Something is telling me I should have bought that Insight I was looking at... future shortages and I'm driving around getting 90mpg.

JDMAflac 09-29-2008 04:28 PM

Woo Hoo, finally got some gas and it was premium no less! Filled up the DD and got 2 gallons of premium for the miata to start up this weekend.

elesjuan 09-29-2008 05:37 PM

Wow, and gas is down to an all time 2008 low in KC.. paid $2.89 before I left town, out here in the STL its $3.69 last fillup. :mad:

This really, REALLY sucks. :vash:

miatamania 09-29-2008 06:46 PM

Most of the places up here still only have 87, if they have it.

Ben 09-29-2008 06:54 PM

I passed 1 station with fuel on my way home. 87 only. LONG LONG lines backing into the street that would typically be interfering with traffic, but there really wasn't any. Interstate was a ghost town again. My commute was a good 20 minutes shorter than typical due to lack of traffic.

elesjuan 09-29-2008 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 313808)
I passed 1 station with fuel on my way home. 87 only. LONG LONG lines backing into the street that would typically be interfering with traffic, but there really wasn't any. Interstate was a ghost town again. My commute was a good 20 minutes shorter than typical due to lack of traffic.


Haha. Too bad you don't have a stash of fuel stocked up... That'd be a freaking BLAST on an empty interstate every morning, afternoon, day... ;)

"Look, I can do 120mph all the way to work!!"

Stealth97 09-29-2008 08:24 PM

yeah, when I went to Columbus I was joking with my wife about bringing a few 55 gal drums with me to fill up with gas. Now I wish I wasnt joking. I'd sell that shit on the corner for $7 a gallon. dont want to wait in line? I've got premium right here......

The biggest problem is though I still want to drive fast, yet everyone is doing 10mph under the limit.

elesjuan 09-29-2008 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Stealth97 (Post 313869)
The biggest problem is though I still want to drive fast, yet everyone is doing 10mph under the limit.

Odd.. I have this problem EVERYWHERE I go...:bang:


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