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Old 02-04-2009, 08:42 AM
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really intercooler kits? You guys can't just get some aluminum pipes from ebay? I would pay $100 for the 3 point strut brace
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:48 AM
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I'd pay for welded, mandrel bent, IC pipe connections along with solid mounting points and mounting hardware for the IC since I can't weld. I could cobble something together using an Ebay pipe kit, silicon connectors, and a sawzall, but he's asking.
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in for strut brace that doesn't interfere with my turbo crap.
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:17 AM
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same here
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
Make a CHEAP weld-ell mild steel manifold in T2 and T3 versions. Make if for 400 and you'd sell the fire out of them. 500 and they'd sell pretty good. 800 and kiss my *** anyone can have a one-off made for that kind of money. Also a matching down pipe for said manifold would be nice.

Really? I don't think you could get $400 for a mild steel weld el mani. Heck, I could crank mine out for $250 easy in mild all day long. If I was to do that, I'd get the cuts laid out and then plasma cut the holes. It would then be easy to get that large oddball shaped hole done exactly right. Six els cut to fit with a handheld plasma cutter in half an hour and then weld to finish.

That does give me an idea, though. The shop that did my frame rails also has a five axis tube laser. I wonder if they could cut the els or if they can just do straight tube. The laser would have to move "in and out" to compensate for the swing of the el when it is rotated. It's pretty cool when they do tube projects, as they "slot and tab" the ends of the tubes when they cut them so that they are self jigging. It would be nice to be able to take six pieces, fit them together like a jigsaw puzzle and then weld with eveything in perfect alignment. Even if they can't, it yields perfect coped joints which makes for easier TIG welding.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Stein
Really? I don't think you could get $400 for a mild steel weld el mani. Heck, I could crank mine out for $250 easy in mild all day long. If I was to do that, I'd get the cuts laid out and then plasma cut the holes. It would then be easy to get that large oddball shaped hole done exactly right. Six els cut to fit with a handheld plasma cutter in half an hour and then weld to finish.

That does give me an idea, though. The shop that did my frame rails also has a five axis tube laser. I wonder if they could cut the els or if they can just do straight tube. The laser would have to move "in and out" to compensate for the swing of the el when it is rotated. It's pretty cool when they do tube projects, as they "slot and tab" the ends of the tubes when they cut them so that they are self jigging. It would be nice to be able to take six pieces, fit them together like a jigsaw puzzle and then weld with eveything in perfect alignment. Even if they can't, it yields perfect coped joints which makes for easier TIG welding.

Really. New bullet-proof manifolds are 400-500. A decent 4:1 weld-ell manifold will be just as reliable as a cast and easily outperform. If you could sell one like yours for 300 they would sell. Cheaper than a cast, possibly more reliable, and better flow.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by akaryrye
I would probably pay around 200 - 300 for a mild steel piping kit depending on fit and finish
If this includes couplers and clamps, then 200 sounds right.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
Yes, but there is also one that has a bar that also crosses over the valve cover from strut to strut as well as going to the firewall.

Here ya go...

REV9 Autosport
dude, that thing is 400 dollars.... is it made out of unicorn bone?
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Originally Posted by Stein
...I could crank mine out for $250 easy in mild all day long....
I think those would sell very well.
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sb, if you would care to find a job out of the rain forest and into the fabulous hill country of Texas, we should talk.
I'm pretty handy with an air nibbler....any openings?
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Originally Posted by urgaynknowit
dude, that thing is 400 dollars.... is it made out of unicorn bone?
More like "Price: $474.99 + Shipping". So easily $500. Thats why i dont have one. Id gladly pay $100 for one though.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:28 PM
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For all you guys wanting the turbo friendly 3 point strut brace i will be working on a prototype shortly. It would be made out of mild steel to keep the cost down and can be painted for a price or you could just DIY and keep it cheaper. The goal here is to keep the cost down.

For the Weld ell mani's i am very tempted to try one. Thats with the 2 "T"s and 2 90's right? Post some pictures of the mani and maybe ill be able to fab one up here.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sbkcocker499
For all you guys wanting the turbo friendly 3 point strut brace i will be working on a prototype shortly. It would be made out of mild steel to keep the cost down and can be painted for a price or you could just DIY and keep it cheaper. The goal here is to keep the cost down.


Sweet! Mild steel is fine by me, it would look awesome painted black.
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Another suggestion:

You could make this kit:

Racing Beat - Miata

and this: Racing Beat - Miata
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:10 PM
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yeah mild steel would be fine for me too, I could wrinkle can it myself
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Originally Posted by Rafa
Another suggestion:

You could make this kit:

Racing Beat - Miata

and this: Racing Beat - Miata
Unfortunately with their website no matter what you link it takes us to the home page.
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Im in for a rear strut tower brace also, as well as a 3 point front brace possibly. Id like either since there are no affordable versions out there currently
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:04 AM
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The people have spoken!
Quality + road tested 3 point front strut tower brace

Factors include;
Maximize hood clearance
2 bar design that goes from strut to strut as well as strut - firewall - strut
Quality craftmanship
road test!
and most important
Not cost a bankroll!




More to come include
rear strut bar
Weld ell manifolds + downpipe
Bolt on intercooler piping kit direct fit ( clocking turbo may be required )

I will post the progress of the prototype as it comes. Check back!
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:44 AM
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Was looking through the build threads and saw this exhaust mani. Is this what you guys are talkin about when you say weld ell?
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
Unfortunately with their website no matter what you link it takes us to the home page.
Sorry.

Front sway bar and end links.
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