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JasonC SBB 07-09-2009 02:45 AM

To test if a running fan is an impediment at say, 70 mph, here's an easy test for those with easy to remove fans.

Cruise at 70 mph on a hot day with both fans on, read coolant temps.
Pull over somewhere, remove 1 fan, repeat.

Savington 07-09-2009 04:52 AM

Why are high coolant temps bad, aside from localized boiling? Can I feasibly run 275 degree coolant temps using Evans?

Sam Amporful 07-09-2009 05:49 AM

My friend uses that thick springfield racing radiator on his 460hp miata that sees only tracktime and he doesnt overheat anymore.

Savington 07-09-2009 05:57 AM

Who is your friend? Is he actually fast?

hustler 07-09-2009 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 428320)
Who is your friend? Is he actually fast?

Ru Paul...the dude can drive.

sixshooter 07-09-2009 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 428339)
Ru Paul...the dude can drive.

C'mon man. Everybody knows Ru Paul only drags.

ZX-Tex 07-09-2009 08:43 AM

^^ Grooooooaaaannnnnn :)

JasonC SBB 07-09-2009 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 428307)
Why are high coolant temps bad, aside from localized boiling? Can I feasibly run 275 degree coolant temps using Evans?

You may ping despite lack of localized boiling, then you have the materials - the piston may expand too much, the oil seals may suffer, the exhaust valves ... I saw a testimonial wherein they lost a fan but pressed on despite very high temps. Upon teardown the only damage was to the oil seals.

There also seem to be testimonials from Harley and other big bikes about Evans, IIRC about cooling improvements in stop and go traffic. Another one I recall is from off roaders. Notice these are low speed - I don't know if this is relevant.

Laur3ns 07-09-2009 03:15 PM

@Savington: what exact setup do you run now?
Radiator?
100% pure water? Water wetter?
Reroute, how?
Heater core?
Thermostat?
IC sealed against radiator?

Sam Amporful 07-09-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Savington (Post 428320)
Who is your friend? Is he actually fast?

Yea hes pretty fast. Well fast enough to be able to run down a 600hp corvette at road atl. and roebling. I'll get his shop number so you could call him if you want. He'll talk aero and cooling efficiency all day. His dual oil cooler setup is interesting too. This is his car (it was bright that day)
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Savington 07-09-2009 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 428417)
You may ping despite lack of localized boiling, then you have the materials - the piston may expand too much, the oil seals may suffer, the exhaust valves ... I saw a testimonial wherein they lost a fan but pressed on despite very high temps. Upon teardown the only damage was to the oil seals.

Very interesting. I would have thought that even with a 40 or 50 degree increase in coolant temps, the expansion rates of the pistons and such would depend far more on EGTs and intake air temps.

hustler 07-09-2009 03:59 PM

can I get more pics of that oil cooler set-up?

Where did the duct come from?

Sam Amporful 07-09-2009 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 428492)
can I get more pics of that oil cooler set-up?

Where did the duct come from?

The setup is just two NACA ducts with piping inbetween them and a plastic shroud ziptied onto tiny oil coolers. Its pretty straightforward. If I had pics at the moment I would post them

JasonC SBB 07-09-2009 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 428490)
Very interesting. I would have thought that even with a 40 or 50 degree increase in coolant temps, the expansion rates of the pistons and such would depend far more on EGTs and intake air temps.

I'm not 100% certain about this, I'm speculating.

hustler 07-09-2009 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Sam Amporful (Post 428495)
The setup is just two NACA ducts with piping inbetween them and a plastic shroud ziptied onto tiny oil coolers. Its pretty straightforward. If I had pics at the moment I would post them

link? That looks somewhat acceptable.

hustler 07-09-2009 09:27 PM

I already like that guy. Savington just sent me a PM for some advice on attracting another man, so hopefully those two can hook-up...if you're friend is a power-top of course.

hustler 07-09-2009 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 428348)
C'mon man. Everybody knows Ru Paul only drags.

Savington: so
Savington: ru paul
Savington: if that's his name
Savington: tell me about him
Savington: cause his shit looks fast
Savington: or it looks like it could be fast
Savington: except he's on R888s, lol

:borninthe90's:

Sam Amporful 07-09-2009 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 428616)
Savington: so
Savington: ru paul
Savington: if that's his name
Savington: tell me about him
Savington: cause his shit looks fast
Savington: or it looks like it could be fast
Savington: except he's on R888s, lol

:borninthe90's:

Haha thats hilarious. Surprisingly he has no pics online since the car was just recently built like that. He easily has 50k into that car including the base price. The only reason hes using r888s is because if he would use anything better they would bump the car up a class in the series he races in. Atleast they're 245s on good rotas. I wish he were a member. The shop specializes in miatas so im surprised he doesnt have an account on here. But if anyone really wanted to talk to him, i'll talk to him tomorrow and see if hes alright with me giving his number to anyone in need of advice. His name isnt Ru Paul though. Next time I catch it on the lift when im there i'll snap as many pics as I can get

TheBandit 07-09-2009 10:29 PM

Sam, that car is the sex.

Michael

Rafa 07-09-2009 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by thebandit (Post 428623)
sam, that car is the sex.

Michael

+1!


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