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Old 05-12-2012, 02:15 PM
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Getting started on installing this, and sorting out the wiring. Obiously, there are wires to connect to a gauge.

Do I need one, or is it just another pretty light? Will it actually help me tune, or is it something that once things are tuned correctly that will be just eye candy?
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Track car "yes"; street car "its nice but not required".
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Thanks. Can you recommend one? I sorta like the Innovate digital ones (except for the lighted logo), but the rest of the gauges I have are autometer with black bezels and white faces. I'd kinda like them to look the same.
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Originally Posted by rleete
Thanks. Can you recommend one? I sorta like the Innovate digital ones (except for the lighted logo), but the rest of the gauges I have are autometer with black bezels and white faces. I'd kinda like them to look the same.
Maybe you can find an old Innovate gauge like the one I have. VEI makes some that look as good as the old Innovate gauge, I'd buy one of those but they are black and I can tell from your previous post that you don't like blacks.
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I have a feeling that I'm gonna end up getting all new gauges.
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Isn't the whole point of installing a wideband is being able to see what your afr is?

Am I missing something here?
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Actually, for me, it's so the MSpnp can see what it is.
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I've got this one. I thought visibility was better than the digital Innovate ones.



http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=149
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http://www.vgauges.com/catalog/produ...products_id=79
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Originally Posted by Braineack
$279?!!!!
That's for the gauge, sensor and controller. The gauge itself (on the same site) is only $99, which is inline with the prices for other gauges I've seen.

Right now I have boost and FP gauges in the autometer (white face, black rim). I have room for three gauges, one of which will be boost. But I'd like all three to match, so I'm looking around for ones I like.
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I did the VEI dual gauge, MAP/Boost + AFR (in blue). Space and cost efficient and gives me the parameters I want to keep an eye on. Follow Hustler's link.

Of course, it didn't help me to detect retarded Peterbilt drivers.
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Originally Posted by rleete
That's for the gauge, sensor and controller. The gauge itself (on the same site) is only $99, which is inline with the prices for other gauges I've seen.

LC1 with DB gauge is $159...


LC1 can be bought new all day long for $110-130
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irc you can feed a narrowband o2 for poormans WB as it is getting a true wideband signal. but it wont go under 12 or above 15...

or sell it and go MTX-L to save space since you dont need the logging aspect...
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Originally Posted by fwMiata
but it wont go under 12 or above 15...

it can show whatever you tell it to, within the confounds of 0-1v and 7.35-22.39:1
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I don't have one, but my car has never been on the track. Every once in a while I think it would be nice to have, but 99% of the time I don't miss it.
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I like my classy VDO analog gauges but this is baller.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
$279?!!!! LOLOLOLO:OLOLOLODLFOLSAFOLSAFODLSAKFLSAFKdl safdsak fjdasf
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I got the gauge on ebay. The gauge alone was like $65. That price is with the LC1.


Actually, the gauge alone is $99 now from the store. In the ballpark of the innovate gauges which look like handheld video games from Mattel.

http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=170
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Originally Posted by Braineack
LC1 with DB gauge is $159...


LC1 can be bought new all day long for $110-130
Maybe out of the back of some crack-----'s car in NOVA.
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