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Sean 11-20-2010 01:31 AM

Lets Talk Miata Tach signals
 
Ok I have a 92 miata with a inline 6 cyl. I had a shift light hooked up in my car before with no problems and the tach worked before I did the swap. My problem now is trying to figure out what type of signal the miata tach uses and do I need a tach adapter.


My new engine has a distributor and uses a 12V tach signal.

I do not know what type of signal the miata stock tach uses. (92 Miata)

Do I need a tach converter or something to make my tach work with the new engine?

I know the NB has a serial link connector and the ecu converts the signal to an old style 12V before it goes to the tach but is it the same on a NA.


I just need to know what I should do to hook a 12V distributor tach signal to a stock miata tach.


Any help would be great I am really confused on this one.

Savington 11-20-2010 01:55 AM

0-12v squarewave

https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...nal+squarewave

Sean 11-20-2010 02:29 AM

Ok Ill verify that the supra is the same and go from there. Thanks

Sean 11-20-2010 07:22 PM

Ok so the toyota uses a 5v sqaure wave does anyone know if there is some sort of converter for this or should I just deal with it.

TrickerZ 11-20-2010 07:42 PM

Should be able to just use a FET. Someone else would have to verify for me, though. I'm not sure how much it would distort the signal.

jasonb 11-20-2010 10:01 PM

i had same problem adapting my nissan sr20det to aim dash. sr20 output 0-5v square. aim wants 0-12v. i used a smallish pullup resister (47k) to fix. i watched the waveform on the scope and 47k was enough to give nice 0-12v square wave. i didn't want to go too low ohms so as not to pull too much current through the sr20 ecu. i would guess same applies to the toyota ecu.

Sean 11-20-2010 10:46 PM

Ok I just thought of something as well. The signal out of the ecu is a 5v but if I pick up my tach signal off the gound terminal of the coil and see if that works if not MSD makes a tach adapter I can pick up used for like $35 and I will go that route. I would try putting in a resistor but I do not have a scope I can look at the signal with. That would make this a whole lot easier.

jasonb 11-20-2010 11:20 PM

just put a 47k on it and see if it works. didn't mean to imply u had to check. i got 10 bux that says it will work.

Sean 11-21-2010 11:22 AM

Ok I will try that first I imagine it will work. I will see if I can pick up a 47K pullup resistor next week and see if that works. Thanks for the input

Sean 11-22-2010 09:29 AM

Ok so I had the guys at my work help me with the math and its seems to all check out right on the money. Like I said before I do not have a scope but with the math in order and two resistors in hand I think everything will be ok. So after the holidays I will wire it all in and see how it works.

jasonb- thank you for your help I think you just saved me $80 by not ordering the autometer adapter.

Sean 11-22-2010 09:52 AM

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OK last thing until I do it and see if it works here is a super basic drawing of what I am going to do to wire this resistor in can anyone verify that it seems correct or if I am going to do something wrong.

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kday 11-22-2010 10:17 AM

I wouldn't use that circuit without knowing more about how the ECU's tach output is implemented.

Sean 11-22-2010 11:17 AM

What do I need to know about the ecu tach output I have access to a fatory wiring book and it can tell me almost anything I need to know.

jasonb 11-22-2010 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Sean (Post 660401)
OK last thing until I do it and see if it works here is a super basic drawing of what I am going to do to wire this resistor in can anyone verify that it seems correct or if I am going to do something wrong.

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...tachwiring.jpg

looks good to me. the only thing i would suggest is to use a switched 12v if you have it (i used 12v switched supplied by my dash itself). that way it floats if the ecu is off, and is 12v when the ecu/tach are powered.


Originally Posted by kday
I wouldn't use that circuit without knowing more about how the ECU's tach output is implemented.

por que? if u run the numbers the current the ecu has to sink to pull the 47k to 0v is tiny.

Sean 11-22-2010 11:48 AM

Ok that is what I though and according to what I got it is about .25mV or under 1 watt power returning to the ecu I don't see how this would hurt anything. I am going to check in my book to see the circuit that the tach signal is on but I think it is ok. Now mind you I am not really good on the whole computer internals stuff but I have some really good helpers that say it will be fine as well.


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