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MelissaMiata 06-20-2007 11:09 AM

Is this miata worth buying?
 
I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this.

http://tinyurl.com/2ayjrf

I'm looking to buy my first miata, and this looks like it might be affordable. Plus, it looks as though it's ready to have a turbo or supercharger added on?

It looks like it's been reworked all the way through, down to the paint job.

Would I be better off looking for a regular stock miata?

Braineack 06-20-2007 11:14 AM

well it's got:
bigger brakes, torsen diff, and engine
great clutch
suspension
engine mounts, just to name a few

.... i think it's a great place to start.

Slidin'Miata916 06-20-2007 11:17 AM

Well, Problem with turbo charging this one is that I think the kits are Really Expensive. And by "looks like it might be affordable" I dont think you want to get into that. But do some research ont he fm site about the 1.8 kits. Also, its almost at 2000 and the resereve isnt met, What is your budget? I think this one is gonna go a bit higher but I could be wrong : / You should be able to find a great miata for well under 3k. Well around here you can at least. But the under 40k miles motor isnt bad
So what is it exactly you want to do with the miata you get? This could be the one

MelissaMiata 06-20-2007 11:22 AM

I was hoping to get some sort of turbo or super charger or nitrous down the road. for now I just wanted something that is in good shape and fun to drive. It seems like this one has some other performance enhancements already done to it. Would it be a good value for $3900?

Braineack 06-20-2007 11:25 AM

I'd almost pay the reserve for the amount of useful stuff into the car.

jayc72 06-20-2007 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Slidin'Miata916 (Post 124422)
Well, Problem with turbo charging this one is that I think the kits are Really Expensive. And by "looks like it might be affordable" I dont think you want to get into that. But do some research ont he fm site about the 1.8 kits. Also, its almost at 2000 and the resereve isnt met, What is your budget? I think this one is gonna go a bit higher but I could be wrong : / You should be able to find a great miata for well under 3k. Well around here you can at least. But the under 40k miles motor isnt bad
So what is it exactly you want to do with the miata you get? This could be the one

Just because there isn't a greddy kit for the 1.8 doesn't mean there aren't options for turbo charging on the cheap. Used or DIY are good options.

In my opinion this is nearly an ideal Miata to start with.

Philip 06-20-2007 11:27 AM

pics of you?

jayc72 06-20-2007 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 124428)
pics of you?

+1

Slidin'Miata916 06-20-2007 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 124429)
+1

+3. 3900 For that thing is a great price. REALLY low miles.

magnamx-5 06-20-2007 11:41 AM

+10 for pics

steelrat 06-20-2007 11:46 AM

It does look like a good starting bed, a lot of the normal upgrades are already done....

The only questions to ask.... stock 1.6 front brakes? You would think with the larger 1.8 rears, the fronts would have been done too.....

Also something to consider.... with the SCs... since the throttle body is moved to the back of the blower, the longer intake volume, doesn't like lightened flywheels.... it can make idle dip more of an issue.

Dave,

jayc72 06-20-2007 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by steelrat (Post 124439)
It does look like a good starting bed, a lot of the normal upgrades are already done....

The only questions to ask.... stock 1.6 front brakes? You would think with the larger 1.8 rears, the fronts would have been done too.....

Also something to consider.... with the SCs... since the throttle body is moved to the back of the blower, the longer intake volume, doesn't like lightened flywheels.... it can make idle dip more of an issue.

Dave,

All the more reason to go with a turbo :)

timhill78 06-20-2007 01:15 PM

Looks like a good price. Why if he swapped motors did he not swap to the 96 air flow meter. He still has the flapper style one on there. Is this common? +1 for 1.8 turbos can be had on the cheap.

jayc72 06-20-2007 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by timhill78 (Post 124470)
Looks like a good price. Why if he swapped motors did he not swap to the 96 air flow meter. He still has the flapper style one on there. Is this common? +1 for 1.8 turbos can be had on the cheap.

Normally you keep all the existing 1.6 electronics when you do a 1.8 swap. Not sure of too many people that have done a 1.8 swap including the wiring harness and the ECU.

So ya, it's common :)

m2cupcar 06-20-2007 02:18 PM

There's just not enough benefit for the work involved. And keeping the 1.6 electrics still allows a swap to PnP ecu. I kept all my 1.6 stuff for my swap. Easy. :D

Arkmage 06-20-2007 05:16 PM

Looks like a good deal... I'd ditch the racing beat springs though. I had a set for a while (3K miles) they were too soft for the amount of drop. I spent most of my time on the bump stops and decided they were garbage... sold them on ebay for a profit despite tell the buyer they would be on the bump stops a lot.

samnavy 06-20-2007 10:18 PM

HOLD IT! My spider sense is kicking in here... what is this car missing? Just look at the mods carefully? Anyone? Guys?

Yup, you guessed it, A TURBO! Where is it? I've got $20, any takers? The car is ideally modded with all the required pieces except the turbo. Who the hell puts an ACT Xtreme/StreetDisc on a stock motor? I'd say there was a slim chance he was GOING to put on a turbo and then lost interest, but I'd also give LONG ODDS that he parted the kit to sell the car. There'll be signs. He probably wouldn't have bothered to change the spark plugs back to stock... and the usual random holes where things mount. Yup, returned to "stock" to sell it is my vote. You don't just go that far with getting it all ready and then quit. I've been wrong before though.

Melissa, if you're serious about this car, somebody in the Chicago area would probably go look at it for you. The auction just ended for less than the reserve, so it's still there. If you'd ad to your profile where you live, maybe somebody on the board will be local and can help locate you a quality car. Have you looked in the classifieds at miata.net? Have you ever driven a turbo'd/super'd Miata? Any idea what kind of power you're looking for?

Ben 06-21-2007 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by steelrat (Post 124439)
The only questions to ask.... stock 1.6 front brakes? You would think with the larger 1.8 rears, the fronts would have been done too.....

Because the 1.8 brakes came with the 1.8 rear swap. :gtfo:

Ben 06-21-2007 01:13 AM

Melissa, you may not like that ACT XT clutch very much. Depends on your inseem, leg strenght and shifting abilities. You're looking at a heavy pedal and a short engagement period.

IMO, however, that car may be an ideal platform to turbocharge. But it's easy to make a whore look like a princess in internet pics. I wouldn't buy it w/o seeing it and getting a buyer's inspection. The platform does have 190k miles on it, despite the milage of the drivetrain. Stuff does wear out.

Ben

steelrat 06-21-2007 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 124658)
Because the 1.8 brakes came with the 1.8 rear swap. :gtfo:

Possibly/probably... or... it's because to help with Sam's theory.... the guy had a big brakes, on the front, but the 1.8's on the back to help with the balance. Parted out the big brakes, and now is back to stock....

Seems weird he'd specify only "rear".... And in the photo's the fronts look like "stock" brakes (can't tell the size though from them).

Or who knows... but I thought it might be a question to ask. <G>

Dave,

y8s 06-21-2007 10:03 AM

guys, she is long gone.

MelissaMiata 06-21-2007 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 124731)
guys, she is long gone.

Darn. was hoping to offer some cash for her. Do you know how much she sold for? Oh well,I'll keep my eyes open for another one. Thanks for the help everyone.

LOLA - 92 06-21-2007 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by MelissaMiata (Post 124944)
Darn. was hoping to offer some cash for her. Do you know how much she sold for? Oh well,I'll keep my eyes open for another one. Thanks for the help everyone.

Hey Melissa --
I do believe Y8S was speaking of you , not the car......:gay:
Ah, come on back here girl.
The car was overpriced and you don't know the true condition of it. It was worth $2,500 max. More like $2,200 - You might be able to get it cheaper.
It is from Chicago and it was a repaint. The first thing I would check would be underbody and rocker panels in front of the rear wheels for rust. A Magnet test works pretty good. An engine swap is kinda iffy unless you trust the swapper. I would never trust anyone that says this or that engine came from a car with XXXX miles on it. (Take a full compression test and leakdown)

Email the EBAY SELLER (eddy770) on the ask questions of seller part at EBAY link and find out if the car is still in his possession. Ask hin how much he will take for the car. Get back to us to keep us updated.
LOLA

Ben 06-21-2007 09:40 PM

Lola, we both know it's hard to value a car based off it's upgrades, but I think your $2200 appraisal is a bit on the low side. That is, unless the car does turn out to be a rust bucket.

I would say $3k, maybe a little more right now with the summer season adjustment. Again, assuming the car is not a rust bucket.

The car with the torsen, tsi's, extra bracing, etc certainly does look like it should have a turbo.

LOLA - 92 06-21-2007 09:48 PM

Ben -

I would say $3k, maybe a little more right now with the summer season adjustment. Again, assuming the car is not a rust bucket.
I'm assuming it is a rust bucket with fresh make-up.
If it is NO RUST, then yes, the car may be worth up to $4K - That is if the cobble together is properly performed - And only a visual inspection and a lift could possibly tell.

miatamania 06-21-2007 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 124659)
Melissa, you may not like that ACT XT clutch very much. Depends on your inseem, leg strenght and shifting abilities. You're looking at a heavy pedal and a short engagement period.

IMO, however, that car may be an ideal platform to turbocharge. But it's easy to make a whore look like a princess in internet pics. I wouldn't buy it w/o seeing it and getting a buyer's inspection. The platform does have 190k miles on it, despite the milage of the drivetrain. Stuff does wear out.

Ben

My girlfriend is 5'1"...and about a hundred pounds and can't drive a stick very well. She can drive my car w/ the XT PP and lightened flywheel with no problem.

LOLA - 92 06-21-2007 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 124978)
My girlfriend is 5'1"...and about a hundred pounds and can't drive a stick very well. She can drive my car w/ the XT PP and lightened flywheel with no problem.

Pictures? :gay:

Philip 06-21-2007 10:04 PM

24 hours and no fucking pictures :mad:

Ben 06-21-2007 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 124978)
My girlfriend is 5'1"...and about a hundred pounds and can't drive a stick very well. She can drive my car w/ the XT PP and lightened flywheel with no problem.

Does she grab the steering wheel with both hands and pull herself forward to help push the pedal? That's what my wife did the first, and only, time she attempted to drive my car with the ACT HD.

Lola, if it is a rustbucket, $2200 is too much. Really the only thing an old miata has going for it is condition of the body. Everything else is cheap and easy to replace.

So.... Pics or ban ... ??
:D

J/K
Sort of

dedonderosa 06-21-2007 10:41 PM

sounds good to me! :)

MelissaMiata 06-21-2007 11:21 PM

I asked the seller for a price, he said he'd be happy with $3k. I might swing by and have it inspected at a shop, then show up with $2500 and see what he says. Is that a good plan?

what about this one?

http://www.fengauto.com/details.aspx...16195&img=3142


It looks like the body will need some minor work(i see some scratches on the bumper), but it has a lot less miles and it's newer too. Pics are crap, but it looks like the Top looks like it might need replacing down the road.

what do you guys think? I'm initially turned off b/c it's a dealer.

timhill78 06-22-2007 03:58 AM

Leather seats are a good sign it might have a torsen lsd.

LOLA - 92 06-22-2007 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by timhill78 (Post 125067)
Leather seats are a good sign it might have a torsen lsd.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
That doesn't make sense Tim.
Here is a qoute from the add:

tan interior from a 1994 M edition miata, including leather seats with 2 speakers in each headrest
I have never heard about leather seats being a good indicator for torsen lsd. Where you you find out about this one? :gay:

LOLA - 92 06-22-2007 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by MelissaMiata (Post 125025)
I asked the seller for a price, he said he'd be happy with $3k. I might swing by and have it inspected at a shop, then show up with $2500 and see what he says. Is that a good plan?

what about this one?

http://www.fengauto.com/details.aspx...16195&img=3142


It looks like the body will need some minor work(i see some scratches on the bumper), but it has a lot less miles and it's newer too. Pics are crap, but it looks like the Top looks like it might need replacing down the road.

what do you guys think? I'm initially turned off b/c it's a dealer.

This one looks to be an "M" edition "merlot" - Original tan interior. Much better deal. ABS and whatnot in there. Check out both of them. Check the A/C out also, even though you are in the Northern States.
Once again - The main thing to look for is RUST.
P.S. You are right about dealers. A bunch of puss suckers. Don't let them shake you down - Keep zippers on your pockets!!:gay:

hustler 06-22-2007 08:38 AM

yes, buy it, then post nudes.

If you ever went the turbo route, or wanted stand alone engine management, you could do MSPNP.

jwarriner 06-22-2007 08:43 AM

Sell the M interior and wheels to the dorks over at M.net to recoup some of the cost.

Arkmage 06-22-2007 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 125084)
yes, buy it, then post nudes.

Dude, don't run her off... replying to her posts is probably the closest thing to female contact some of our members get!

LOLA - 92 06-22-2007 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 125118)
Dude, don't run her off... replying to her posts is probably the closest thing to female contact some of our members get!

Hustler is going to post nudes of himself real soon. If not, I will post nudes of what I suppose he looks like. :nono:

Out of these three turkeys, can you tell which one is Hustler?

hustler 06-22-2007 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 125118)
Dude, don't run her off... replying to her posts is probably the closest thing to female contact some of our members get!

lol. Sorry.

Philip 06-23-2007 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 125118)
Dude, don't run her off... replying to her posts is probably the closest thing to female contact some of our members get!

fuck that.

make with the nudes :squint:

timhill78 06-23-2007 04:31 AM

I have never heard about leather seats being a good indicator for torsen lsd. Where you you find out about this one? :gay:[/QUOTE]

Hey I forget where I read it but it was when I was looking in junkyards for a torsen. The idea is look for leather seats = possible M edition or heavily optioned car = much more likely to have a LSD.
:)

MelissaMiata 06-26-2007 08:32 PM

what are some signs to look for to see if a car has been turbo'd before?

cjernigan 06-26-2007 08:39 PM

Tapped oil pan is a big sign.
Disturbed exhaust manifold hardware. Screw holes where the AFPR was bolted to the firewall. Kinda hard but there are a few tell tale signs.

LOLA - 92 06-26-2007 09:00 PM

Boost/Vac gauge and AFR on A-Pillar or lack of them with screw holes.

magnamx-5 06-26-2007 09:10 PM

worn rear tires and brakes :gay: Oversized rubber.

y8s 06-26-2007 09:33 PM

blow through the PCV valve both ways?

Snowsurfer03 06-26-2007 10:05 PM

:bigtu: :gay: :gay: :gay: That turkey pic is soooooooooooo :gay: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHHAHHAHHHA!!!!

Also, the 1 of the hottest things in the world is a girl that talks car!


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