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Old 03-05-2015, 11:50 AM
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People on mnet are already discussing depowering the steering. lololololol
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Fiat version will also have Iveco (Fiat) diesel as an option. 106hp 2.3l 200ft lbs.
Geared for the Bonneville salt flats?
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Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
People on mnet are already discussing depowering the steering. lololololol
Obviously none of them have driven an RX8. The electric power steering rack in that car is the best thing going on in that engine bay.
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depowering the electric steering?
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Originally Posted by 18psi
depowering the electric steering?
Are you surprised?
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Erat
Geared for the Bonneville salt flats?
Idk, but the VW TDI cars have MPG ratings that help them sell well in Europe and aren't exactly slow.

BTW, I looked up that engine and there are already 126hp and 146hp versions of it, 258 ft lbs. Reflash, anyone?
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:24 PM
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They're theorizing that pulling the second pinion out and looping a line or some **** is going to be the way to depower the rack. I should go dorito to see if DEPOWERING THE RACK is a popular option on S2Ks... you know, a car that is renowned for having shitty steering feel.
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:25 PM
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Isn't Mazda's current prototype racer a diesel too?
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by hornetball
Isn't Mazda's current prototype racer a diesel too?
A Fiat factoid about the 2014 Chevy Cruze diesel
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Re my Alfa 4C comment: turns out that's a 1.7, but still a very similar motor to the Abarth's 1.4.

I think most folks who are thinking about screwing with the factory steering haven't driven a 2014+ Mazda 3, 6, or CX-5. The steering is scary good, especially on the 3. I wouldn't change a thing. My favorite steering of any car I've ever driven.
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Old 03-06-2015, 07:27 PM
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Yeah I can't complain about my CX-5 , feels very good for a crossover
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I read the new Car and Driver with the ND on the cover. They claim the engine has a new exhaust, intake manifold, and cylinder head. The first two are obvious to fit longitudinally, but if the cylinder head is completely different then why the same power rating?
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Originally Posted by Chilicharger665
I read the new Car and Driver with the ND on the cover. They claim the engine has a new exhaust, intake manifold, and cylinder head. The first two are obvious to fit longitudinally, but if the cylinder head is completely different then why the same power rating?
I believe that's talking about the 1.5 liter, which is the only version of the car that any press has gotten to drive IIRC. That engine got a power increase over the standard one, the 2.0 did not.
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Looking at the trend of decent displacement and tons of compression yet weaknut specific output from many small engines, I really do wonder if the NE (if it ever comes about) will be electric. Seriously. How's that for m.net-like?

If you looked at the spec sheet on most modern engines, the displacement, the compression, the management, etc. You would expect 50-100 more HP from the 4 cylinders. But for emissions sake they must run baby cams high velocity/low flow ports. Great TQ bands, but not as much screaming top end as you would think based on the compression and all.

Then we have 2 ton Teslas that handily rip most gas powered cars apart and are only going to enjoy greater economies of scale over time.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:42 PM
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I've mentioned it before, but it's about the economies of the auto manufacturers. Honda has the technology and background to make screamer engines that have the highest mean piston speed in a production car that revs up to 9k because they have a lot of background in motorcycles, used to have (and currently does) an F1 division, and is the 2nd largest Japanese auto manufacturer.

There are only a few Japanese car companies smaller than Mazda, and outside of their science fair experiment (rotary), none of their engines have a particularly high displacementower ratio. Their technology package is basically high compression and leveraging the Atkinson cycle. I'd like more horsepower, but 155hp at 2300ish-lbs is going to be a blast, doubly so if it gets killer gas mileage.

It's too bad that the colors are 3 whites, a silver, a black, a red, and a blue.
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At least they HAVE a blue, unlike the current Miata for at least 2014 and 2015, and I believe 2013 as well.
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I won't be buying the first year ND, but come second year I will probably be buying one new. MKTurbo has to be the first to the market with them.
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where are the chrome options
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Old 03-13-2015, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by albumleaf
where are the chrome options
I think you are a bit off topic, but here are the Chrome options.
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Originally Posted by albumleaf
where are the chrome options
I'm sure they'll be a selection of autozone grade chrome addons which you can get dealer installed since those bits are a favorite with the target demographic of this car, the elderly couple that wants to coast into death. That goes double for luggage racks.
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