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Bryce 01-08-2008 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 195506)
its either the tranny or diff. let us know. do a few clutch dumps!

Yeah... I'll make sure to do them in the driveway so I don't have to push it far when something grenades.

STravisVrooman, I'm pretty sure most people here know that it's the smaller 6 inch R+P that is weak point and that we upgrade to the larger 7 inch.

I'll be waiting for a deal to come around on a 4.10 Torsen swap so if any of you see one for 750 or less, a PM would be appreciated. :)

Bryce 01-08-2008 05:54 PM

I just dipped my finger into the differential fluid after driving around the block. No metal flecks.

mazda/nissan 01-08-2008 07:55 PM

thats what she said......

my transmission makes a hell of a lot of noise so don't count that out just yet

kenzo42 01-08-2008 11:52 PM

Like I posted earlier, I have the same sound. No problems and I don't even have a turbo.

kenzo42 01-09-2008 12:04 AM

A reply I recieved over at m.net about 6 months ago, when I asked the same thing about that siren sound. In repeated threads, synchronizer cones were always mentioned:

Driving issues. That noise is the gears/synchronizer cones in the trans spinning up to speed. Rev match your downshifts and you won't hear it anymore, but FWIW the noise is harmless. Not rev matching your downshifts wears out your clutch and, if done badly enough, can lock up your rear wheels and cause you to crash, especially if you do it in a corner.

Bryce 01-09-2008 12:14 AM

Lol Kenzo, while what you describe is a valid source of noise (Yes I know what synchros spinning up to speed sounds like.) It is not the same. Mine makes this noise in any gear clutch in or out. Have you even watched the videos?

I rev-match every downshift. It's a habit and it's the only smooth way to do so with a lightweight flywheel.

Meh. Anyways I'd rather it be the tranny going out than the diff for some reason, just because it would be cheaper to replace immediately than doing a torsen swap. Tomorrow I'll check the tranny fluid level and for metal shavings.

I'm having second thoughts about not autocrossing it this weekend again. :)

Bryce 01-13-2008 08:42 PM

Hokay, so my diff blew today. I got 7 runs in autocross with increasing noise near the end, made it 30 miles to within a mile of home on the freeway and then grindPOPgrindgrindgrind.

JeffGoji & Miyoshi 01-13-2008 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by Bryceness (Post 198563)
Hokay, so my diff blew today. I got 7 runs in autocross with increasing noise near the end, made it 30 miles to within a mile of home on the freeway and then grindPOPgrindgrindgrind.

Ouch! That sucks!

I LUCKED out with my diff on Friday!
Made it from Kingwood to Clint's front bay-door before I heard the gears begin clunking. :bigtu:
When I got out of the car the entire rear of the car was coated in diff fluid... The under carriage didn't look too good either. :hahano:

miataz 01-13-2008 11:02 PM

aha i think im the only one with a good diff:) (Knock on wood) i spin my tires, drift if im bored, doughnuts, and spin my tires when i shift, and she has 160000kms on her:bigtu:

Bryce 01-14-2008 10:04 AM

Haha yeah I've got an oily mess on the back of the car too. Miataz, you don't have a turbo, that's why your diff still works, though there's always a chance.

There wasn't any immediate warning that the diff was going to go. I put 300 miles on it with that whining sound and other than that, for thirty miles there was a tiny click on the transition between accel and decel.

Bryce 02-27-2008 01:46 AM

Long-needed thread update:
I must have mechanical empathy. The carrier bearing failed. The ring and pinion looked to be in pristine condition.

I found a low mile 3.9 Torsen out of an 02 6 speed to put in. I love the Torsen!
The inside tire scratching for traction in the turns and in gravel parking lots, the feeling of the rear end being much more planted coming out of a turn and more predictable when it's not planted is just amazing.

Other than that, I've got a new noise in the transmission now that I'll post a video of sometime. I'm not too worried about it though because a transmission is a whole lot cheaper to replace than getting a Torsen swap.

Marc D 02-27-2008 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 198771)
Haha yeah I've got an oily mess on the back of the car too. Miataz, you don't have a turbo, that's why your diff still works, though there's always a chance.

nah. he just doesnt drive hard enough.

i blew the diff on my AE86 on a mountain drive.

and thats with a whopping 90 whp to the wheels. go figure.



get that thing fixed! the 7" rear ends will hold up well to the abuse.

hustler 02-27-2008 02:07 PM

ring gear howl. That bitch is toast.

Is the howl pitch sensitive to speed or rpm? (trans or rear)

Bryce 02-27-2008 02:33 PM

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Hustler, my diff is fixed, trans is making noise now. The whine changes with rpm. Sounds allot like the whirring noise in reverse except I get it in all gears.

The carrier bearing gutted itself when I pulled the driveshaft. Lots of exciting destruction of metal going on here.
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R+P were still good sans where the Pinion gear was allot to push against the VLSD when the carrier bearing finally blew out. That was probably all done during the 200 foot grind to a halt on the highway.
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AbeFM 02-27-2008 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 220140)
I found a low mile 3.9 Torsen out of an 02 6 speed to put in. I love the Torsen!
The inside tire scratching for traction in the turns and in gravel parking lots, the feeling of the rear end being much more planted coming out of a turn and more predictable when it's not planted is just amazing.

So, what you're saying is you're sitting on a six speed you want to sell me for cheap?

Bryce 02-27-2008 02:55 PM

Lol, I wish! Though if I had a 6 speed it'd be in the car ;)


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