hey, you're the one that said all of it. All of it assumes no boundries.
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Originally Posted by Impuls
(Post 959560)
I hit some sort of fuel cut or something. I believe I have the stock 265cc injectors. so it wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Originally Posted by SJP0tato
(Post 960123)
Running stock injectors over 4-5psi will be an easy way to fail at your goal.
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https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...big-post-4288/
Read up. I assume you have the tan-top 265cc injectors, which according to my quick reversal of the formulae on that page tells me those are good for a whopping 146.83982684 hp, which you are almost certainly over at 14psi. Unless you have turned up the pressure on your fueling system, which would be a little silly since you have a full standalone. |
I'm sure some smartasses out there can think of a few things it's ok to run 100% capacity on. lets hear it. what's ok to run @ 100% capacity or more?... My first answer to that question is definitely injectors.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 960134)
14psi on stock injectors, eh?
Could have fooled me. :fael:
Originally Posted by thenuge26
(Post 960194)
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...big-post-4288/
Read up. I assume you have the tan-top 265cc injectors, which according to my quick reversal of the formulae on that page tells me those are good for a whopping 146.83982684 hp, which you are almost certainly over at 14psi. Unless you have turned up the pressure on your fueling system, which would be a little silly since you have a full standalone.
Originally Posted by krissetsfire
(Post 960195)
I'm sure some smartasses out there can think of a few things it's ok to run 100% capacity on. lets hear it. what's ok to run @ 100% capacity or more?... My first answer to that question is definitely injectors.
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Originally Posted by Impuls
(Post 960186)
Even tho stock they come at 7psi? What?
You haven't specified what turbo you're using though, so I guess it could be anything. Why you'd go to the trouble of swapping an engine in, installing some kind of turbo kit, setting up a Megasquirt, and then running stock injectors seems odd to me though. ;) |
Originally Posted by SJP0tato
(Post 960213)
The stock Mazdaspeed turbo is also smaller than the GT2560R the FM2 kit comes with (that you alluded about in an earlier post). I'd guesstimate the Garret flows more at 4-5psi than the Mazdaspeed unit does at 7, and almost certainly more at 14psi.
You haven't specified what turbo you're using though, so I guess it could be anything. Why you'd go to the trouble of swapping an engine in, installing some kind of turbo kit, setting up a Megasquirt, and then running stock injectors seems odd to me though. ;) Stock 04 mazdaspeed miata engine with full FM intake, previous owned "uped" the boost with the manual boost controller that came with the FM intake kit. I certainly didn't think it was bumped up this much though! Going to go turn down the MBC, hopefully my buddy with get back with me about his 440cc injectors. Maybe this weekend I'll wire up my EBC to my MS. 440cc is good for 280-320 hp from what I've read? I know I've seen a lot of people use 550cc. Even with the higher power output builds they use 1000cc. 150$ for 440cc injectors is a good pretty good deal tho? |
Check the classified section, but I think rx7 injectors (which I assume those are) go for more like half that. But I would go for an RX8 injector at minimum, as they use the newer (but still old) EV6 design. But EV14 ones would be best. If I were you I wouldn't go past stock boost until I installed new injectors, and I wouldn't buy new injectors without doing some research.:brain:
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Originally Posted by thenuge26
(Post 960239)
Check the classified section, but I think rx7 injectors (which I assume those are) go for more like half that. But I would go for an RX8 injector at minimum, as they use the newer (but still old) EV6 design. But EV14 ones would be best. If I were you I wouldn't go past stock boost until I installed new injectors, and I wouldn't buy new injectors without doing some research.:brain:
I looked up on RC's website for them new: about $350 worth. |
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So it's been awhile since I updated you guys what's going on.
Well here it is: Parts on parts on parts :D https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1363652913 |
460cc injectors are good for 220-230whp at a maximum safe duty cycle if you are using 43psi of fuel rail pressure plus manifold reference pressure. IDK what they will support with the NB's non-referenced fuel pressure of sixty-something psi at the rail. There happen to be online calculators available for this very purpose, though.
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I read that they are good for 300.
I'm not sure what pressure the walboro 255 puts out either |
Doubt they'll hit 300 on stock pressure. but past 250 you should be getting better injectors than ev1 anyway
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Welcome to the Miata life! Beautiful car, and good plans for it.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 992182)
Doubt they'll hit 300 on stock pressure. but past 250 you should be getting better injectors than ev1 anyway
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1363879140 And Thank you, eventually I'll be getting EFR turbo setup going on and by then ill be putting ID1000 injectors in |
I guess I just don't understand why you even bought the RCs in the first place then. For $150 more you could have had more than double the injector, and a newer tech, and more closely flow-matched.
Hell for $10 more than the RCs you could have 775cc FIC EV14s. |
lol anyone that still buys RC's in this day and age is just plain sheltered
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Originally Posted by thenuge26
(Post 992250)
I guess I just don't understand why you even bought the RCs in the first place then. For $150 more you could have had more than double the injector, and a newer tech, and more closely flow-matched.
Hell for $10 more than the RCs you could have 775cc FIC EV14s. But yes now that I'm building the engine using these RCs is poop. but I still have the shitty MSM turbo so outlook get me to where I need to be I suppose. I'll sell them to some Honda kid when I'm done I guess :P |
Originally Posted by Impuls
(Post 992268)
I wasn't planning on building up the motor then. and they are cheap. (I got the RCs for 100$ from a buddy with an 04 msm) so it's more like IDs for 300+ more
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