got banned due to some issue with Rick on another forum.

I miss Pat! :cry:

In a non-tubbed Miata, traction will always be a problem as a 225 drag radial will never have enough grip to pull a 1.5 60 ft. Enough traction to pull a 1.5 60 will break axles.

Right Jay? ;)

Frank

1.5's is fast, but not that fast. Much heavier cars that are not tubbed do it all the time. The lighter the car, the smaller the tire it takes to hook it up properly. I can not say for sure if the 225 drag radial will hold a 1.5, but I think it is possible. A small slick on a miata will for sure.

I am working on the axle problem.

What are your plans?

1.5 is fast for an independent rear suspension car. Much heavier cars that do it run fat slicks and have a solid rear axle (and an auto). No way you will pull a 1.5 on a 225 DR. The Miata has been around for 20 years. Do you think you're on to something new? :laugh: You aren't. But more power to ya. Whatever floats your boat.

I think I am on to something new. I do not want to run on about it until I do some testing, but I have a hunch as how to correct the problem.

Drag racing irs suspension is something fairly new. Straight axle racing has been around for eons. People will get irs to work on the dragstrip; it is not rocket science. Give it time.

I can not prove this, but I may have gone faster than anyone ever with a 200 hp or less miata in the 60', and maybe in the quarter mile. I spend much of my tuning time making what I have work on the track.

I would say yes and no to this. Anytime we launch our cars hard it's very hard on the entire drivetrain. There's a couple ways to eliminate this. Running a wrinkle wall slick will help out quite a bit because it will flex enough to absorb a lot of the shock while giving traction at the same time. Another way is to go with a completely different transmission and use a trans brake. The axles are a weak point, but the failures could also just be caused by car setup and driving style. I will never rule out myself as the real reason a part fails.

Do you have problems with wheel hop using the Mickey Thompson drag radials? I have a set of Nitto drag radials, and I hated the wheel hop. That is part of the reason I went with slicks.

I run the ET Street Radial II with the catalog number 3751R (which does very good on the strip, but is very different than the MT drag radials). As for wheel hop, nope, sure don't have an issue with that at all. I've had the Nitto and BFG tires on previous cars and had never liked them, I feel they are junk. I would love to run a nice set of slicks, but it's still a street car. I drive it to the track, tech it, get in the staging lanes and make my passes without any changes. Same setup that I run on the street to include the tools and spare parts that I keep in the trunk.

I am about to trash the Nittos.

I will try the Mickey Thompsons. Looks like they have an appropriate size for my application.


:nxsmile:Still looking for nitrous miatas out there.

I decided to pull out the nitrous kit that I have been planning to install, but never got around to it. I wanted to learn how to properly tune my car before going big. After playing with the car for a while now, I feel confident enough to put the nitrous on.

I made a little progress on my nitrous install.

I made this bracket to install the solenoids so I do not have to mount them to the firewall.

When did Hyper rereg?

Say what? I never heard of Hyper

Suuuuure you haven't. ;) Welcome back Hyper... People are about to witness history in this thread, shit that has never been done before... :giggle: Good luck with a 1.5 60' nitrous Miata. I don't think it will ever happen, but good luck trying.

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY



This sounds 100% like Hyper.
The resemblance is uncanny :eek5:

Someone needs an IP check:giggle:

Can't be Hyper, even he's smart enough to go turbo.

Wrong guy.

My name is Troy. I do not know who Hyper is or what his name is. I have searched Hyper for a few minutes, and never even found any threads by him. I will continue to search, and will eventually find them.

If I came across as an ass hole in some of my posts, keep in mind that I have just started this whole forum thing when I joined Miataturbo. I have been working on my etiquette, and have toned down my comments. Give me a break.

Did Hyper have a nitrous car?

Ouch.

He was renamed to PeterPan or something gay like that. He is basically a huge fucking retard ------ that pretends to know EVERYTHING and thinks he invented some new coolant re-route that he won't show anyone or tell anyone about. He was bullshitting in here for a long time and everyone flamed him and laughed at him. Eventually it got so out of hand that he got perma-banned, and most of his posts deleted.


I don't really think you're him, and no offense, but those sentences I bolded in my previous post are almost word for word the kind of shit he used to say.

Always thinking he's smarter than EVERYONE. Always saying "I have this awesome revolutionary idea" etc etc etc. Never actually sharing it. And the details he DID share were more stupid than my dogs turds.

:bowrofl: Damn, that was a good laugh... :bowrofl:

"He is basically a huge fucking retard ------ that pretends to know EVERYTHING"

I lost it there.

I am not trying to prove that I am smarter than everyone.

It is a little intimidating when I am the only guy going a different route than everyone else. It pissed me off when people were knocking my set up and when I am trying to do something different than everyone else. It makes it hard not to be an ass and try to prove them wrong.

I applaud you for trying to be different, but I don't see how you plan to run 1.5's in a Miata with nitrous. Prove us wrong, that is the point isn't it?

This guys already gone 1.7 in the 60ft. Cut him some slack.

Why cut him slack? He has to prove that he can go 1.5, if we cut him slack there wouldn't be as much drive to push him. He comes on here and claims 1.5's, and I want to see it. Nothing more nothing less.

Tell me about your drag racing experience. Have you run any good numbers? How can you even have a leg to stand on telling me that it is not possible?

You misunderstood me apparently. I encourage you to try for it, I just can't see it happening based on other numbers I have seen on Miata's. You can't come on a car site and claim to be able to do something no one else can, or claim to have possibly run faster than any other 200hp Miata and not have anything to prove it. I'm just saying you need to prove it.

Going a 13.16 is not proving it?

Go to drag times, and find a car that has run what I have with a similar set up or horsepower. Go to this site. I have the timeslip of the nitrous run in this thread.

I have been searching for miatas that have gone faster than that (with similar horsepower) since it happened, and I have not found one yet. I did not make that comment without researching it first.

The time that is posted on this site, in the timeslip section, by me is at my car's current normally aspirated set up.

Not saying your times aren't impressive, but honestly I don't know what the record for 200hp Miata's would be, drag isn't my thing in the case of the Miata, not a platform I care to build from for drag racing. I see a 1.7's, but 1.7 and 1.5 are worlds apart, unless I missed a 1.5 60' slip somewhere.

Your run has more to do with the tires than your power adder of choice.

I still ran the numbers before anyone else did.

If you do not know, then why would you even make comments like that?

And by the way, I never said "I am going to run 1.5's"

I said that I thought it was possible to run 1.5's. I would be willing to bet that it has already been done in a very high powered miata somewhere.

For my sake, would you clarify what times you are referring to and post an example or someone else's time. I'm not exactly following what you are claiming. Best 60' in the ~200hp range? Best ET in ~200hp range? Best nitrous Miata time? Honestly I don't really care either way, since I don't like nitrous and I don't like Miata's as drag cars, but you seem to be trying really hard to prove your point. Don't mean that in an offensive way.

I guess I am just not blown away with a 1.7 60' and a 13.## ET. Being as most of the drag racing I take part in deals with much faster stuff, I am not sure if those times are impressive. And why would I not make a comment "like that," I'm trying to figure out if what you are claiming is true and impressive. Educate me drag master.

Best 60' and ET in a 200 horsepower miata of any format.

Mod, I think it is about time to close this thread. I will start another thread about my build later.

And that is your 1.72 60' and the whatever it was, 13.2 something ET? I figured there were turbo guys in the 200 range running that time or better. I guess I am ignorant in that matter.

No, I was just thinking you are ignorant period.

:giggle: Holy shit, I was right about you all along. Someone got their feelings hurt or got a sandy vagina.:cry: Cry me a hand full

Dude,
RELAX:)

Don't let people get to you this easily. We are busting your balls here, nothing more nothing less.

You want to cut a 1.5 '60 in a slicked and nitroused miata, no one's stopping you. I hope you get a vid. I want to see what it looks like to get out of the hole like a bat out of hell.
We're challenging you to do it more than just plain hating on you. At least I am anyhow. So don't get your panties in a bunch:)

Been there done that with just nitrous, now im going to use it to save my brakes as a spool assist instead of brake boosting.

I enjoy it more on vehicles where turbo is less of an option.

So was I, but that didn't stop him from getting his shit all in a bunch. He wants to do what he wants to do, no one is stopping him. He said he thinks its possible to do a 1.5 60' and I said I wanted him to prove it, in a challenge kind of way. Going to have to be a bit more thick skinned than that to hang around here. If you can't handle having your balls busted a bit, this isn't the place to be. I learned that in my first week of trolling here.

Link to the contest page?
That's because nobody builds a Miata with only 200 horsepower to go drag racing (except you). Nobody cares about best 60' or ET in a 200 horsepower Miata. You want to impress people, go out and make it fast.

I was going to start a new thread with this video but saw this thread instead, thought it appropriate.



another view

........nnooooooossssssss!!!!!

:laugh:

I love the second right before it goes off where u can see the scoop fill up like a fog machine then kabloowie

To bad they never showed the carnage that was the intake mani

The camera guy gets a good shot of it as they back the car off the lane.

I am working on it. Have you been paying attention to what I am doing?

Nope, just what I read in this thread.

This may be a noob question but, what caused the explosion? I thought nitrous could only do damage by causing your engine to run extremely lean.

nitrous is an oxidizer man IT makes everything boom bigger.

i like to call it oxygen on steroids

I know that, i mean i am not a total :noob:, but why did it blow up like that? Was there some sort of leak then finally ignited or something or was that purely detonation from inside the engine?

Solenoid failed allowing fuel to pool in the intake manifold.

Oh, dam so his manifold became a large bomb. Lol other peoples misfortune is hilarious.

Interesting thread, want to see how it goes with his project. Nothing wrong with trying a different route, good luck.

Nitrous is cool, what the hell, anything is cool even putting a Jet engine on the trunk of the car. If you can afford filling that baby bottle every five seconds, so be it, better you than me.

To me Nitrous AKA NOS (LOL), is like been addicted to crack, heroin, meth and Kool-Aid at the same time and on top of that getting a table dance from some hot las vegas chick for half a second.

Its your money, nobody is saying huge chunks of power cannot be achieved with "NOS", but I prefer free lunch money anytime...

Good Luck on your project!

Oxygen would be even stronger, so how is a diluted form (Oxygen & Nitrogen) "oxygen on steroids"?

nice call, u are correct, ment more along the lines of air on steroids

I say this to try and explain to most unknowing people that Nitrous is not a combustible fuel as in you can not light it on fire alone.

The car on the motor will already outrun many of the starter turbo cars out there. I use nitrous for the drag strip.

If you were actually serious about making power you would ditch that retarded carburetor setup

You can in 4fast4furious