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andyfloyd 07-01-2018 11:20 AM

PSA for anyone with a Boundary oil pump
 
First off let me say that it's nice to have a company that will build you a bulletproof pump. However, after I built my engine I noticed a small oil leak from the pump. After investigation it was the Allen head plug that seals the high pressure port. Boundary doesn't use the correct plug, and they don't use sealant. Mine was leaking. I took the OEM plug out of my old pump and it's tapered where the one boundary gives you is not. Installed the oem plug with liquid Teflon, and viola no more leak. Hope this helps someone building an engine, check this plug before you install it.

psyber_0ptix 07-01-2018 11:28 AM

I also noticed on shibby's car that the threads felt parallel, which could keep tightening until it was recessed in the housing.

Thanks for the heads up.


@Shibby oil drops?

psyber_0ptix 07-01-2018 11:33 AM

1/4" npt?

andyfloyd 07-01-2018 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1489242)
I also noticed on shibby's car that the threads felt parallel, which could keep tightening until it was recessed in the housing.

Thanks for the heads up.


@Shibby oil drops?

Yessir that's exactly it, the plug boundary gives you is just straight threaded the OEM is pipe thread I believe . You might get sealing with the boundary plug if you use sealant

andyfloyd 07-01-2018 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1489243)
1/4" npt?

I believe so, the plug head OEM is 1/4" hex, the boundary plug is 6mm. Not 100% on the thread pitch

ridethecliche 07-01-2018 12:10 PM

This is what you're referring to right?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...59fb6cf5b2.jpg

andyfloyd 07-01-2018 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1489253)
This is what you're referring to right?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...59fb6cf5b2.jpg


yessir

matrussell122 07-01-2018 03:48 PM

Good to know I'll have to vehck mine

curly 07-01-2018 04:13 PM

It'd be really weird if they shipped with a set screw instead of a tapered threaded plug. If BE keeps the stock thread size, it's actually 1/4BSPT, which may look straighter if you're comparing to a 1/4" NPT. There is such a thing as BSPP, parallel threads, but they require an O-ring to seal, so I can't imagine they'd even make BSPP plugs.

andyfloyd 07-01-2018 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1489287)
It'd be really weird if they shipped with a set screw instead of a tapered threaded plug. If BE keeps the stock thread size, it's actually 1/4BSPT, which may look straighter if you're comparing to a 1/4" NPT. There is such a thing as BSPP, parallel threads, but they require an O-ring to seal, so I can't imagine they'd even make BSPP plugs.

I don't have a side by side picture but I can tell you whatever BE sends you keeps threading in never seems to tighten, the OEM plug definitely gets tight and it's tapered. The BE plug definitely leaks pretty bad.

aidandj 07-01-2018 05:46 PM

Mine was loose too. Used the BE plug but with sealant. And tighten.

afm 07-01-2018 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1489287)
It'd be really weird if they shipped with a set screw instead of a tapered threaded plug. If BE keeps the stock thread size, it's actually 1/4BSPT, which may look straighter if you're comparing to a 1/4" NPT. There is such a thing as BSPP, parallel threads, but they require an O-ring to seal, so I can't imagine they'd even make BSPP plugs.

NPT and BSPT are the same taper angle, 1" diameter per 16" of length. The threads are different, though.

Der_Idiot 07-02-2018 01:02 PM

Just pulled my NIB pump out of the box and confirmed I have the same plug based on appearance alone. Pump has not been removed from the bag yet.

andyfloyd 07-02-2018 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Der_Idiot (Post 1489415)
Just pulled my NIB pump out of the box and confirmed I have the same plug based on appearance alone. Pump has not been removed from the bag yet.

I would pull the plug off your old OEM pump and reinstall on the BE pump with Teflon paste and win at life

bahurd 07-02-2018 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by andyfloyd (Post 1489417)
I would pull the plug off your old OEM pump and reinstall on the BE pump with Teflon paste and win at life

Sure, why would anyone think the only 2 parts (plug + seal), other than the gear that were replaced could possibly be sub-standard.

andyfloyd 07-02-2018 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1489433)
Sure, why would anyone think the only 2 parts (plug + seal), other than the gear that were replaced could possibly be sub-standard.

Totally man it makes ZERO sense. I love the pump but I mean WHY use a shitty crank seal and some random plug? Makes no sense to me at all

Midtenn 07-03-2018 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by andyfloyd (Post 1489437)
Totally man it makes ZERO sense. I love the pump but I mean WHY use a shitty crank seal and some random plug? Makes no sense to me at all

Likely it is done by their supplier to save money without letting Boundary know. Either that or they were told "It'll work and save money"

Jgilby 11-17-2019 03:22 PM

I have a question while this post is about the plug. I got my Boundary oil pump and I was cranking the motor to get oil pressure prior to the first startup and I received none! I looked at my oil filter, no oil. I looked at my pump and the screw or "plug" is threaded down in the pump a good amount. I'd say probable close to half an inch. I was wondering if this plug prevents oil from traveling down the channel or what. Could this be why I have no oil pressure? If so PLEASE leave a reply. If all I have to do to get oil pressure is loosen a screw, I will be so happy. Thanks :)

SpartanSV 11-17-2019 07:28 PM

I don't see how that plug could be your issue, but I couldn't build enough pressure with the starter to register pressure on my OEM dummy gauge.

How are you measuring oil pressure?

shuiend 11-17-2019 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Jgilby (Post 1555095)
I have a question while this post is about the plug. I got my Boundary oil pump and I was cranking the motor to get oil pressure prior to the first startup and I received none! I looked at my oil filter, no oil. I looked at my pump and the screw or "plug" is threaded down in the pump a good amount. I'd say probable close to half an inch. I was wondering if this plug prevents oil from traveling down the channel or what. Could this be why I have no oil pressure? If so PLEASE leave a reply. If all I have to do to get oil pressure is loosen a screw, I will be so happy. Thanks :)

I assume you are talking about the plug on the left side of the pump right to the side of the alternator? What I suggest doing is removing the plug, putting a long funnel in, then pouring oil down it until it starts to come out the plug hole. Then put in the plug, remove spark plugs and unhook injectors. Spin the motor with a battery charger on it until you build oil pressure.


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