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cardriverx 07-01-2008 01:49 AM

Q about the CAP mod for COPS
 
So I toar apart a old amp, found a 22,000 uf capiactor. I know thats double the suggested, is that too much?

18psi 07-01-2008 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by cardriverx (Post 277815)
So I tore apart a old amp, found a 22,000 uf capacitor. I know that's double the suggested, but is it too much?

Not trying to be a grammar Nazi, but fixed it for people that will look;)

Saml01 07-01-2008 09:09 AM

Nothing is ever too much, use it.

Braineack 07-01-2008 09:18 AM

You'll have the ability to store more energy...I don't see nuttin' wrong with that.... make certain the polarity is correct.

y8s 07-01-2008 09:47 AM

the voltage rating needs to be high enough. probably at least 20VDC for a reasonable factor of safety. higher is fine.

cardriverx 07-01-2008 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 277882)
the voltage rating needs to be high enough. probably at least 20VDC for a reasonable factor of safety. higher is fine.

Its rated for 25V, its a monster haha. Alright cool, I get it so the cops an just take energy from the capiactior as needed, so there is no too big. cool.

Joe Perez 07-01-2008 11:48 AM

Yup. When using a capacitor as a voltage stabilizer for a heavy load at the end of a long cable run, bigger is always better, right up to the point where it blows a fuse at turn-on.

As Y8s pointed out however, electrolytic capacitors have two principle ratings, voltage and capacitance, which for a given physical dimension tend to vary inversely to one another. In other words, a cap rated for 10,000uf at 10 volts and a cap rated for 4,700uf at 20 volts will tend to be about the same size.

So, if your 22,000uf cap is rated at a sufficiently high voltage, then it will be "better" than a 10,000uf cap of the same voltage rating. The guys with the big subwoofers in their car routinely run caps of 1 farad (1,000,000uf) and bigger.

cardriverx 07-01-2008 12:01 PM

Yeah I noticed about the size thing, I opened two powersupplys and each had 2 big capiactiors, but they were around 3000 uf and rated at 200 volts hah. Those capiacitors for subwoofers are huge.

Joe what do you do for a living? You know a good amount about electronics, thanks for all the help.



Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 277940)
Yup. When using a capacitor as a voltage stabilizer for a heavy load at the end of a long cable run, bigger is always better, right up to the point where it blows a fuse at turn-on.

As Y8s pointed out however, electrolytic capacitors have two principle ratings, voltage and capacitance, which for a given physical dimension tend to vary inversely to one another. In other words, a cap rated for 10,000uf at 10 volts and a cap rated for 4,700uf at 20 volts will tend to be about the same size.

So, if your 22,000uf cap is rated at a sufficiently high voltage, then it will be "better" than a 10,000uf cap of the same voltage rating. The guys with the big subwoofers in their car routinely run caps of 1 farad (1,000,000uf) and bigger.



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