Questions : put the wrench down and went home.
hi guys !
Some of you may have seen my post in the build section, but my friend and I are building ourselves a miata each. I have some questions for you guys, and I know some of you miata yodas out here know everything there is to know about everything, ever. I'm the guy out of us 2 that's charged with doing the shopping and choosing the right parts for the cars so... I chose to go for a gt2560r by garrett. Thing is, there are 2 types of 2560... Garrett GT2560R-466541-1 (GT28R) Dual Ball Bearing Turbo w/Internal WG and this one Garrett GT2560R-466541-4 (GT28R) Dual Ball Bearing Turbo w/Internal WG the main difference i found in between the two was some cast divider and inconel blades... which sounds nice but why are they priced the same? Most importantly, which one should I purchase? on to the second question : When it's gonna come down to bolting up the exhaust manifold (you know, a turbo exhaust manifold)... should I put a gasket in there? and if so, which one to pick?? third one, we were trying to do a timing belt job on our engines today, and shit happened. We couldn't lock the camshafts in place when we removed the tensioners and a camshaft spun on both engines (yes). Now, both engines are off timing and we still have to rotate the crank... anybody has a procedure to re-time our engines and if we are to do this job ourselves, should we consider buying those fidanza cam gears?? fourth question : where do you guys buy all your performance parts?? I know the main ones but if there is one you had a specific, memorable experience with (positive would be good) please say so! fifth question : my friend and me both removed our ac compressor and were wondering how much they were worth? (55 000kms) I think that is about it for now ! please help me? |
Search again (GOOGLE) for Miata timing belt replacement. There are pics of two wrenches in an "X" pattern with vice grips holding the wrenches in the correct place so the cams don't rotate.
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thanks for the tip
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So we managed to get the crank bolt off and remove the timing belt, but the crank rotated as we did so... Any tips on how to do the timing
Job??? |
I don't know, probably the first time someone has done a timing job on one of these. You're probably screwed.
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No wonder you drive a pontiac
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Google: miata timing belt
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Originally Posted by ddturbosante
(Post 1098853)
No wonder you drive a pontiac
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Flyin Miata sells a Timing gear key for like $12. Its also a bottle opener..... and a keychain....
buy it.... |
Originally Posted by ddturbosante
(Post 1098853)
No wonder you drive a pontiac
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some info here:
http://www.mellens.net/mazda/index.html |
Originally Posted by ddturbosante
(Post 1098484)
the main difference i found in between the two was some cast divider and inconel blades... which sounds nice but why are they priced the same?
Most importantly, which one should I purchase? Buy neither. This is the one you want: Better than Garrett on to the second question : When it's gonna come down to bolting up the exhaust manifold (you know, a turbo exhaust manifold)... should I put a gasket in there? and if so, which one to pick?? For gasket, you'll want something tough and durable. I use this: Gasket third one, we were trying to do a timing belt job on our engines today, and shit happened. We couldn't lock the camshafts in place when we removed the tensioners and a camshaft spun on both engines (yes). Now, both engines are off timing and we still have to rotate the crank... anybody has a procedure to re-time our engines and if we are to do this job ourselves, should we consider buying those fidanza cam gears?? For timing, if you've mis-timed the engine, you're definitely going to need to pick up the fidanza cam gears. You will also need an Alignment tool fourth question : where do you guys buy all your performance parts?? I know the main ones but if there is one you had a specific, memorable experience with (positive would be good) please say so! A lesser known but very good shop is Kaleco fifth question : my friend and me both removed our ac compressor and were wondering how much they were worth? (55 000kms) You might have heard of this site, but if you haven't ever visited, you should check here - should be a very good place to find actual resale value. I think that is about it for now ! please help me? If you aren't willing to put in the effort to help yourself, why should we be willing to put in the time and effort to help you? |
Are you seriously too stupid to figure out how to set timing on a bp?
Dear lord putting down the wrench and going home was probably a good idea. Now stay home and don't pick up the wrench until you at least educate yourself on the most basic information on the planet. Question 1 is a legitimate question, the others tell us you're a lazy n00b wanting to be spoon fed. |
Originally Posted by supercooper
(Post 1098868)
Flyin Miata sells a Timing gear key for like $12. Its also a bottle opener..... and a keychain....
buy it.... Goes. As far as the haters go, i just wanted to know if you had a special trick to help us do the job. But hey, jealousy's a bitch |
Haters!
I'm struggling to figure out what i'm supposed to be jealous of. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1099620)
Haters!
I'm struggling to figure out what i'm supposed to be jealous of. |
Originally Posted by m2cupcar
(Post 1099037)
some info here:
http://www.mellens.net/mazda/index.html |
Wow I was all ready to be mad, but I'm not.
I wouldn't do much reading about Miatas if my boyfriend was as cute as yours either. |
Originally Posted by ddturbosante
(Post 1099623)
Keep an eye on our build thread and you'll see
Is your boyfriend cute, at least? |
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:laugh: oh yeah we're jealous of these barely mediocre na's hahaha
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Be jealous of their Canadian-ness
and French-ness. duh |
So i pulled all the info out of alldata at school :) now just waiting on our waterpump and other stuff to come in and we'll start over friday night.
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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1391726529 |
I have a special trick to help me get the job done but I'm not sharing her :)
In all seriousness, the special trick is Google. Heard of it? |
Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1099905)
the special trick is Google. Heard of it?
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Originally Posted by ddturbosante
(Post 1099623)
Keep an eye on our build thread and you'll see
I wish I didn't know how to do that :facepalm: |
^ :laugh:
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ok so i bought me an NB miata
I plan on puttinng the head of the nb engine on the 94-97 block to have the outlets ready for the turbo. Question is, which headgasket (na or nb) to use? or does it not matter? |
Depends on what year NA and NB. The pre-vvt 1.8L BP all had the same headgasket (i believe). The vvt ones were re-designed to change the coolant flow.
:-\ I don't like to jump on the hate wagon, but I find it odd that you had trouble setting the timing of your car, but you just bought a whole 'nother car with the idea of pulling just the head off of it to put on a different car.. but you're not sure what headgasket you need. I would think swapping heads is something that requires a fair bit of technical knowledge in order to complete successfully, and "which head gasket" is probably fairly low on that list of knowledge needed. |
the thing with automobiles and mechanics is that... anybody can do it, you just need to know how.
I happen to be very fortunate and have ressources around me that allow me to learn the skills and find the information I need to do the tasks. Now as for specific jobs like the timing belt and the head swap, I figured I'd ask you guys since I thought the miata community was nice and knowledgeable, but I've been proven wrong, but then again... this is a forum and is not representative of all the real people out there who just want to enjoy their Miata and talk about them. Back to the subject, doing the head swap isn't that big of a deal, I have a longblock 94-97 just waiting in the shop, we have all the tools we need to do any job, all I need is the information, which I am slowly collecting (and isnt that complicated) this week to hopefully get it done next weekend. As for the timing belt job, I KNOW how to do one, but I just wanted to know tricks from people that have done them in the past ON MIATAS, and know how to save time/energy. But that is just me, you're free to interpret my questions however you like, this is a free country. And luckily for me, to go back to the gasket, like the nice mister before me said, the 94-00 gaskets are the same. I have a 95 engine and and 99 engine so problem is solved,. I bought the headgasket today along with the intake gasket and throttle body gasket. Still waiting on the waterpump but we'll get it, and when we do, I'm pulling the engine and doing the swap (and the timing belt) :) As for your lack of confidence iin our skills, I understand. I lack confidence in your skills too and that's something all mechanics do. deflate that ego and share the love. Goodbye suckaz |
and btw, we're building TWO separate cars, his in an NA , mine is the NB. I have an NA block which i'll use with my NB head, and his will just be a straight up replacement.
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If you're doing all the work, I would spend a few bucks and go vvt. If my engine ever goes boom, or I need a new head for any reason, I can't see myself putting a non vvt head in--especially in an nb.
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Thing is, althought we have a very good budget, the engine's that we have now are the engines that we're gonna use and there's not gonna be anymore money thrown in there. There's still a lot to be done and if there is money left over, we'll see what options we've got. But I don't think VVT is a good option financially for us at the moment. Especially if I do mine like that, he'll want his the same... twice the money
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