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JasonC SBB 04-22-2013 11:45 AM

rollbar to windshield header brace
 
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Hmm, now I want a 'V' version of this brace, 2 points of the V on the header, one point in the middle of the rollbar:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366645549

(Note I'm not saying this will substitute for a cage, I just want a more rigid chassis. Yes I have the butterfly, door bars et al already)

thasac 04-22-2013 01:15 PM

I've always wondered what, if anything, this would do for rigidity.

I assumed it simply 'cured' some chassis NHV but added little in terms of structure/rigidity. I'd be concerned about windshield longevity.

-Zach

hornetball 04-22-2013 04:29 PM

Makes my head hurt just looking at it.

Helment mandatory.

JasonC SBB 04-23-2013 08:56 PM

Bicycle helmet.

JasonC SBB 04-24-2013 02:39 PM

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Here's my V brace idea

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1366828758

18psi 04-24-2013 02:42 PM

I cannot imagine how that would possibly be a better alternative to a full on cage.

Actually it looks like itd be the worst of both worlds.

EricJ 04-24-2013 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1004136)
Helment mandatory.

+1

For me, the probability of having a 5 mph accident on the way to the track where my head strikes a bar like that and I die is infinitely higher than the probability of rolling the car on track where that bar would make the difference.

JasonC SBB 04-24-2013 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1004956)
I cannot imagine how that would possibly be a better alternative to a full on cage.

Actually it looks like itd be the worst of both worlds.

It is NOT a substitute for a cage, nor something to improve rollover protection.
It is to reduce NVH.

The rollbar behind the driver's head is MUCH closer than the V-bar.

18psi 04-24-2013 03:52 PM

I get what you're saying, but think that's a bit over the top for NVH to be honest.
You're basically running almost a full cage, with all the dangers that come with driving it on the street without a helmet, but without all the benefits.
I'm surprised you're still unhappy with frame rails, door bars, and a roll bar in an nb.

But I dunno much more on this since I don't even have a roll bar, so I'll just bow out of the conversation lol

thenuge26 04-24-2013 04:00 PM

Forgive my noobness Jason, but I assume you have already seam welded the chassis up? I don't feel like researching 8 years of posts to find out.

concealer404 04-24-2013 04:13 PM

Related (especially because Jason posted in it) but you guys should read this thread on the same (sortof) subject.

Windshield header to rear cockpit cross brace - MX-5 Miata Forum

It's worth it, trust me.

JasonC SBB 04-24-2013 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1005003)
Forgive my noobness Jason, but I assume you have already seam welded the chassis up? I don't feel like researching 8 years of posts to find out.

Seam welded door openings only. I seriously doubt more seam welding will be anywhere as good as my suggested V-bar.


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1004993)
I'm surprised you're still unhappy with frame rails, door bars, and a roll bar in an nb.

Because drove Boxster.


You're basically running almost a full cage, with all the dangers that come with driving it on the street without a helmet, but without all the benefits.
Has benefit of NVH reduction. Realistically any increased risk is still lower than riding a motorcycle. Yet if someone suggests this kind of bar, lots of people say "too dangerous", but not if I say "I just bought a Gixxer".

mazdasteve 05-22-2013 02:18 PM

is the brace bolted to the windshield frame?...is this a custom job?...need to be able to carry surfboards on the roof with the top down and i think this would be my best route.


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