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miataspeed2005 07-07-2009 07:53 AM

So I raced a Aston Martin and a Ferrari
 
Saturday I was on the highway going to my friends BBQ party and out of nowhere a Middle aged man pulls next to me in a convertible Aston Martin. He looks at me and I look at him and we both go from 55-110 and I creeped away from him so I waived and got of the exit and went to my friends house smiling. Mind you my car still has the default tune on the link ecu. So, Monday I decided to try and do some tuning myself so I changed the map a little bit and jumped on the highway to test drive it. I looked next to me and another middle aged man driving a blue Ferrari (dont know the model but it's the ones that look like a Aston Martin)waves and takes off, so I speed up and pull next to him and same thing we both looked and we go and same thing I creeped away from him. I couldn't believe it! The funny thing is that I always though my car was slow cause I had a basic tune. I wish I had a good tune Cause I would blow them out of the water.

thirdgen 07-07-2009 08:19 AM

That's cool. Those guys were probably like, "look at this little Miata, does this driver think he has something?" Then you smoke em, and they were like, "Why did waste all this money just to look good."

hustler 07-07-2009 08:33 AM

yeah, I love that shit. I want to get on the track with a ferrari with a decent driver and see where the cards fall.

cueball1 07-07-2009 01:44 PM

I like getting on the track with Ferrari driving douchebags that THINK they are fast. (that also goes for M series BMW's, Maserati's and turbo Porsche's.) You know the guys. They sign up for the "advanced" group since they have a hot car. No experience, just a hot car, big ego and an F1 racing jacket. The look of shame, frustration and realization they really aren't a driving God is priceless.

ZX-Tex 07-07-2009 02:04 PM

You get the same look from the motorcycle track day crowd when you pass them on their new hot-shit liter bike, with a 'little' SV-650, in the middle of a corner. Love that.

Doppelgänger 07-07-2009 02:16 PM

Without knowing what model each car was.. I can't pass judgment on if they even knew they were racing or toying with you.
A true guy would have known what he was looking at... not like there are that many models of Ferrari or Aston ;)

If it was a 456/456M, 612, 550 or 599...you would have had your ass handed to you..they all make 450+hp...maybe you raced a old Mondial :giggle:

Aston's line isn't exactly confusing either.. DB7 (s/c 6cyl made 335hp- V12 made 420), DB9 (470hp), Vanquish (460hp..the S had 530) , V8 Vantage (380hp) or DBS (yeah..no need for HP numbers on this one).

None-the-less, it's still fun to play with high-end cars...even if it's just to see them go :)

curly 07-07-2009 02:46 PM

Most likely would of gotten your ass handed to you if they had known how to drive, and/or had downshifted. Like doppleganger said, it's more fun just to watch and hear them be driven like they should be. A guy at work who drove an old chevelle SS pulled up to me and wanted to race. I said he'd beat me (I was still NA), he said: "don't worry, it's got the smallest 440 they made." I said alright and we took off. His car made a glorious noise as it kicked my ass.

skidude 07-07-2009 02:50 PM

I do enjoy that any car capable of beating me now pretty much makes a great noise doing so.

sixshooter 07-07-2009 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 427696)
A guy at work who drove an old chevelle SS pulled up to me and wanted to race. I said he'd beat me (I was still NA), he said: "don't worry, it's got the smallest 440 they made." I said alright and we took off. His car made a glorious noise as it kicked my ass.

Chevy never made a 440 cubic inch engine, but I get the point. I love good engine sounds when people are getting on it. I guess that is why I'm disgusted with the horrible sounds most ricer's cars make. Where does the mentality that "tinny" and "empty" sound good come from? Who thinks that the sound of an Accord with an automatic transmission and the muffler cut off sounds sweet?

And the Vantage has a curb weight of 3770 lbs and only 380hp at the flywheel and ~320 wheel hp. Yes, I think you could take him. And let's talk about how pathetic the Ferrari 308 was in a straight line. A Toyota Tundra could embarrass one from a stop or a roll.

Don't doubt the guy too much. Our cars are light and most doctors and lawyers can't drive for crap.

miataspeed2005 07-07-2009 03:53 PM

I don't know the model but I know for a fact they were pushing it cause their exhaust was over powering mine and they didn't even look at me after. All I know is that they were embarrased

miataspeed2005 07-07-2009 04:28 PM

Curly stop being a pussy and copy what doppelganger said just to get a post in. Maybe you can watch and hear the nice cars fly by you cause your piece of shit band aid car can't even handle a hundai. No matter what your mom says, ME>YOU always!

Savington 07-07-2009 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by miataspeed2005 (Post 427736)
Curly stop being a pussy and copy what doppelganger said just to get a post in. Maybe you can watch and hear the nice cars fly by you cause your piece of shit band aid car can't even handle a hundai. No matter what your mom says, ME>YOU always!

Your piece of shit bandaid car? You're running an untuned Link ECU and bragging about it. Shut the fuck up.

Trent 07-07-2009 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by miataspeed2005 (Post 427736)
No matter what your mom says, ME>YOU always!

Funny, you're mom said I was clearly better than you, but in hindsight, that comment was more than a little disturbing.

Gotpsi? 07-07-2009 04:45 PM

Last time I went to the track there was a F430 and a ACR viper there, and they sounded and looked cool but I was not the only one running faster lap times than them. There where some evo guys there running fast times and another turbo miata and all of us ran better times than them.

hustler 07-07-2009 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 427740)
Your piece of shit bandaid car? You're running an untuned Link ECU and bragging about it. Shut the fuck up.

lol, savington said you're a ------.

240_to_miata 07-07-2009 05:01 PM

anyway......

where were u in CT? anywhere near old saybrook?. There is a high end car dealer that opened recently and it just got a DB9 convertible. The guy had it for the weekend and I saw it all over the place.... along with a 599. Wouldn't be surprised if it was those cars.

cueball1 07-07-2009 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 427740)
Your piece of shit bandaid car? You're running an untuned Link ECU and bragging about it. Shut the fuck up.


Besides clearly toasting Aston's and Ferrari's, Miataspeed can talk smack all he wants. He has flares, 16" SSR wheels and BFG TA's! I had TA's on my 68 Chevelle I drove in high school back in 1982. They were the shizzle with the raised white letters!

Whether or not those cars were trying, capable or whatever, it's fun hearing and watching them work. When they wouldn't look over did they give you the ricer flyby?

miataspeed2005 07-07-2009 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 427740)
Your piece of shit bandaid car? You're running an untuned Link ECU and bragging about it. Shut the fuck up.

it's not untuned it's just safe tuned. Car runs and idles perfect! It's just not pushed to it's limit... And I'm not bragging about it I was surprised that my car was faster then theirs.


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 427764)
anyway......

where were u in CT? anywhere near old saybrook?

the Aston Martin was in Milford and the Ferrari in Branford.


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 427791)
Besides clearly toasting Aston's and Ferrari's, Miataspeed can talk smack all he wants. He has flares, 16" SSR wheels and BFG TA's! I had TA's on my 68 Chevelle I drove in high school back in 1982. They were the shizzle with the raised white letters!

Whether or not those cars were trying, capable or whatever, it's fun hearing and watching them work. When they wouldn't look over did they give you the ricer flyby?

Flares and ssr are for my taste. If you don't like them I don't care, there's plenty of people that hate miatas and we still drive them. As for the tires they are not the regular t/a's, ther are the g-force and they are pretty good on wet and dry weather for the streets.

Maybe I fliped out a little too much but I just hate when people talk shit when I'm just sharing a story about what had happened this week.
So I'm didn't start this tread to brag, cause I know my car it's not super fast 200-210 whp, I just simply wanted to tell you that I beat a Ferrari and Aston Martin and I was surprised

zoomin 07-07-2009 09:31 PM

The http://www.one-77.com/ is an Aston Martin none of us will be beating.

Vashthestampede 07-07-2009 09:32 PM

Nice dude :bigtu:

Hopefully I'll be out on the roads soon enough....:facepalm:

curly 07-07-2009 10:01 PM

Aww I feel so loved, I get yelled at and then Savington, Trent, Hustler, and Cueball1 all yell at ya, I think I may cry. :love: My apologies for crapping on your awesome thread with my meager story.

Btw I'm running about the same horsepower figures as you at ~2000lbs. I'd rape you.

miataspeed2005 07-07-2009 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 427830)
Btw I'm running about the same horsepower figures as you at ~2000lbs. I'd rape you.

im sure you have 200whp on a band aid set up at 10psi :jerkit:

zoomin 07-07-2009 10:38 PM

Keep the lovin amongst yourselves!!

Doppelgänger 07-07-2009 11:51 PM

I bet they were letting you get ahead so if there were any cops around, they'd pop you first :giggle:

For the sake of arguement, not the OP's story, a 200rwhp Miata still wouldn't take a Vantage Cabriolet from a roll. Now, from a dig it would have the advantage..but from a roll? Nah. Those cars are designed to be rockets once they're rolling. It's like the Maybach I raced. Yeah, he was racing too..because he asked if I wanted to race...not me doing a surprise take-off. Anyway, from a dig to 60ish, I killed him...both cars have ~1/10 hp-lb weight ratio (6000lb car with 620hp, 2503lb car with 250rwhp) but moving all that weight from a stand still is harder for him....but from a roll....it would have been a spectator sport on my end.

I took a Lambo LP640 IN MY GF's MSM :giggle: no really...I did.... he just didn't know he was in a surprise race!

miataspeed2005 07-07-2009 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 427866)
I bet they were letting you get ahead so if there were any cops around, they'd pop you first :giggle:

For the sake of arguement, not the OP's story, a 200rwhp Miata still wouldn't take a Vantage Cabriolet from a roll. Now, from a dig it would have the advantage..but from a roll? Nah. Those cars are designed to be rockets once they're rolling. It's like the Maybach I raced. Yeah, he was racing too..because he asked if I wanted to race...not me doing a surprise take-off. Anyway, from a dig to 60ish, I killed him...both cars have ~1/10 hp-lb weight ratio (6000lb car with 620hp, 2503lb car with 250rwhp) but moving all that weight from a stand still is harder for him....but from a roll....it would have been a spectator sport on my end.

I took a Lambo LP640 IN MY GF's MSM :giggle: no really...I did.... he just didn't know he was in a surprise race!

i just said 200whp but i never got it dyno, it could be 150whp or it could be 240whp im just estimating here..... I'm not trying to argue or anything, but i know he was trying to race. As a matter of fact when we both look at eachother and i downshifted and i was waiting for him to make the move and as soon as i heard his engine roar i hit it. I wouldnt come here and post this bullshit story for no reason, you could either believe me or not

Stein 07-08-2009 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 427764)
There is a high end car dealer that opened recently and it just got a DB9 convertible. The guy had it for the weekend and I saw it all over the place.... along with a 599. Wouldn't be surprised if it was those cars.

If it was, I bet the guy didn't buy...:bowrofl:

Doppelgänger 07-08-2009 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by miataspeed2005 (Post 427870)
i just said 200whp but i never got it dyno, it could be 150whp or it could be 240whp im just estimating here..... I'm not trying to argue or anything, but i know he was trying to race. As a matter of fact when we both look at eachother and i downshifted and i was waiting for him to make the move and as soon as i heard his engine roar i hit it. I wouldnt come here and post this bullshit story for no reason, you could either believe me or not


Do me a big favor...go back a re-read where........actually, let me quote myself, then read it and let it sink in for a few hours....then come back and make a damn post displaying some goddamn reading comprehension.


For the sake of arguement, not the OP's story, a 200rwhp Miata....

elesjuan 07-08-2009 01:52 AM

Man, why are your Vagoo's so sandy around here? Didn't have to totally shit on the guys thread and maybe dream did ya all?

I learned something on a crotch rocket a few years ago when a pretty heavily modified WRX decided to initiate a race with me on the highway.. ZX11 could walk away from the vast majority of cars on the highway who tried to race you so I never thought twice about downshifting from 5th gear to toy with this guy. Needless to say, he completely handed my ass to me because I neglected to downshift. Didn't think I needed to, I was wrong. After going back down to second gear it wasn't a problem to put a hurtin' on him.. Could've been the case?

Also could've been a shitty ferrari 308? Could've been a 355, they're not that quick either; Sound fucking sexy as hell but still not that quick. Maybe the Aston was a Jag? They've got a couple which are similar profile to an Aston?

sixshooter 07-08-2009 09:35 AM

V8 Vantage 0-60 5.1 seconds
Quarter mile 13.3 at 106 mph
Price ~$120k

The really slow trap speed tells me that a reasonably strong Miata could likely take him from a roll, as evidenced by the story.

He won. Where's the love? Why are you guys so down on Miatas anyway? You're a bunch of damn Miata haters. If you made any more excuses for those prestige marque cars losing they'd give you honorary memberships into the Porsche Club of America.

I thought everybody loves a winner. Where are the "atta boy" and "good job" and "you sure showed him" remarks? A guy shared a fun and interesting kill story of not one, but two snob cars, and all he gets is this? Shameful. We get enough of this crap on the outside. I don't think it is right to bring it to a proud DIY turbo Miata owner's kill thread.

To the op: Good job. Sure wish you knew what model Ferrari it was. Could you pick it out of a lineup? If you get a chance to go on ebay and look at some of those, let us know if you see one like it.

Either one of those cars' nice sounding exhaust systems costs more than your whole turbo Miata. That should make you even happier to beat them.

mike_671 07-08-2009 09:56 AM

Those are the kind of race storys you will be sharing for a while...good shit!

marinerblue92 07-08-2009 02:02 PM

Having driven many AM's and the Ferrari 430 (which I *think* is the one the OP "raced"), I will say that it is absolutely possible that a boosted Miata could walk on one. They really aren't anything special.

cueball1 07-08-2009 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 427960)
V8 Vantage 0-60 5.1 seconds
Quarter mile 13.3 at 106 mph
Price ~$120k


Those 1/4 speeds and times are pretty much what my car does with my crappy launch abilities. The Vantage would certainly be vulnerable to the awesomeness of a turbo Miata!

There's a lot of high priced machinery out there with those sorts of stats. Take a look at the back of R&T sometime and make note of everything you should be able to "kill". What's scary to me is how many 13 second Mercedes are out there. They've really jumped hard into the HP wars the last few years.

The BFG TA comment was all in good fun. Sometimes it's tough for that to come across in a post!

elesjuan 07-08-2009 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 428045)
What's scary to me is how many 13 second Mercedes are out there. They've really jumped hard into the HP wars the last few years.

Whats scary to ME is how many 11 second Mercedes there are!


Brabus will present at the IAA Motor Show in Frankfurt a 720 hp 1,320 Nm of torque monster Mercedes C-Class - the BRABUS BULLIT. As Brabus says, the BRABUS BULLIT has a top speed of more than 360 km/h (224 mph) and sprints from 0 to 100 km/h in 3.9 seconds.

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/image...S-BULLIT-1.jpg
They have to limit the torque to save the transmission! :makeout:

curly 07-08-2009 02:50 PM

Alright, I guess I've always had a special place in my heart for ferraris and Aston martins, and an unspecial place in my heart for my car, which seems to give me more trouble than not. My apologies miataspeed, congrats on the kills. If I ever return to Connecticut well have to race. Cause then if I beat you, I can say I'm faster than a Ferrari and Aston martin.

starconvoy2 07-08-2009 05:08 PM

Win for the Miata!

miataspeed2005 07-08-2009 05:52 PM

Finally some positive responds. Now go out there and go race some Ferraris lol

cueball1 07-08-2009 06:34 PM

BMW M3 Coupe $65,000 4.3 10.0 12.7 @ 112.4
M3 Sedan $59,050 4.6 10.5 13.0 @ 110.4
Z4 sDrive35i $57,500 4.8 11.7 13.3 @ 106.7
135i Coupe $43,670 4.8 11.9 13.4 @ 104.0
335d1 $50,895 5.3, 13.4, 13.8 @ 101.4
335i Coupe $45,720 4.8 11.9 13.4 @ 105.1

Aston Martin DBS1 $276,140 V-12 4.1 9.2 12.4 @ 114.9
V8 Vantage $127,200 5.3 12.6 13.7 @ 104.4

Maserati GranTurismo1 $118,525 4.7 11.7 13.3 @ 106.2
Quattroporte Sport GT1 $128,925 5.4 12.9 13.9 @ 103.8

Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG1 $63,930 4.1 9.7 12.5 @ 114.4
C350 Sport1 9-07 $44,500 5.8 14.8 14.3 @ 98.2
CL6001 8-07 $148,775 4.1 9.6 12.4 @ 114.8
CLK63 AMG Black Series1 $138,300 4.1 9.6 12.4 @ 115.0
E63 AMG Wagon1 $93,660 4.1 9.5 12.4 @ 114.8
S6001 $160,000 4.4 10.8 12.8 @ 109.9
SL63 AMG1 $159,750 4.0 9.5 12.4 @ 115.3
SL65 AMG1 $198,175 3.7 8.1 11.8 @ 121.6
SL65 AMG Black Series1 $304,350 3.9 7.9 11.8 @ 126.3
SLR McLaren1 $455,750 3.5 7.5 11.5 @ 126.1

Lancer Evolution GSR $33,625 4.9 13.3 13.6 @ 100.9

Porsche Carrera GT $460,400 3.6 7.0 11.3 @ 131.6
Cayman S2 $65,780 4.8 11.6 13.3 @ 105.6
911 Carrera S $94,815 4.1 10.3 12.6 @ 111.9
911 GT2 $198,875 3.4 7.7 11.5 @ 123.9
911 GT3 RS $143,955 3.9 9.0 12.1 @ 116.6
911 Turbo $135,470 3.4 7.9 11.7 @ 121.2

Impreza WRX STI $39,440 5.0 14.1 13.6 @ 98.2

Pontiac G8 GT1 $29,995 5.0 12.3 13.5 @ 104.9
G8 GXP1 $43,280 4.7 11.1 13.1 @ 109.4

Lotus Exige S 240 $72,505 4.3 11.8 13.0 @ 104.5


0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile all from R&T. I cut out all the info on motors, hp, weight, braking, slalom, etc. Those Mercedes are awfully impressive considering most of them are well over two tons! Would be nice if they added a lap time to the stats.


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