track crew: describe your cooling system please
I've been reading lots of hype from miata.net today, so please fill out this form:
Car NA or NB: whp/wtq: which turbo: radiator brand and thickness: intercooler size: oil cooler?: AC condenser?: shroud on the front?: undertray?: coolant reroute?: fan model: which shroud?: scooper?: hood vent?: mods to bumper?: track stuff track location: ever overheated?: highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur: |
I havenet tacked it yet, but I do drive hard and...
Car NA whp/wtq: 220 hp ish which turbo: Garrett T3 off a mercadies radiator brand and thickness: Stock intercooler size: 18x12x3 oil cooler?: none AC condenser?: yes shroud on the front?: no undertray?: hacked stock one coolant reroute?: no fan model: stock which shroud?: none scooper?: no hood vent?: TSI's mods to bumper?: None The turbo is oil cooled only. My coolent never goes over 210 degreesm in 95 degree weather of hard driving. Oil never goes over 225. Im sure a long track session would start to overheat it, but hard driving on the street doesent. |
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NA or NB: NA whp/wtq: ~180ish which turbo: Greddy tdo4h radiator brand and thickness: stock auto brass intercooler size: large starion oil cooler?: yes, big one AC condenser?: no shroud on the front?: stock undertray?: yes, most of it anyway coolant reroute?: no fan model: stock which shroud?: stock scooper?: no hood vent?: yes, two slashes above the back side of the turbo right on what used to be the hot spot. mods to bumper?: no track stuff track location: usually SMP Abq, NM 5000ft/sea session length: anywhere between 5 minutes to an hour. ever overheated?: Not while moving. highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur: right around 102 |
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N/A Stock cooling system TEXAS nuff said |
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NA or NB:NA whp/wtq:??Greddy@7 PSI which turbo:Greddy radiator brand and thickness: Generic Auto all metal replacement intercooler size: Track Dog Racing standard size oil cooler?:need one, will be purchased this month AC condenser?:installed shroud on the front?:Yes undertray?:Yes coolant reroute?:No, the BEGI non-race reroute will be purchased though fan model:Stock which shroud?:TDR standard scooper?: hood vent?:No mods to bumper?:Rats Back racing Lip track stuff track location:MSR@Cresson and Harris Hill ever overheated?:On >1 Hour Highway trips it'll start getting warm if over ~85-90 highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur:I don't recall, 100-105 in traffic with no overheating I'm going to do the BEGI coolant reroute sometime this month http://www.bellengineering.net/produ...roducts_id=299 Every time I park the car during the summer, I can hear the radiator boiling over. I think the bottom of the manifold is heating the coolant line under it. What is your setup going to be? Chris |
Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92
(Post 280682)
What is your setup going to be?
Chris |
I forgot, I also have a 16psi cap.
I generally take the approach of solving problems as they happen, if they happen. Enstead of guessing and throwing a bunch of money at a problem you may not actually have. Overheating on this car hasn't really been much of an issue. |
I agree with BenR. Use what you have now and run it. Most people don't need the big ass Koyo's.
Chris |
I don't want to spend any more money, but I think my intercooler is too big and I'm going to be stuck hacking the bumper. I'm going to do some fiberglassing on the stock mouth to hopefully get some air around the intercooler and into the radiator, but seal everything off so the air is forced to go through both heat exchangers. I still haven't seen anyone do that other than aimtuning...who needed a larger opening than stock.
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Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92
(Post 280695)
I agree with BenR. Use what you have now and run it. Most people don't need the big ass Koyo's.
Chris I don't see how air coming through the intercooler is so super heated that it can't cool water in the radiator. |
It's your money and your time. You can always come up with excuses to not make forward progress toward your goal if you let yourself. I don't think anyone here expects you to actually turbo your car and track it at this point. :hustler:
:fawk: |
Originally Posted by BenR
(Post 280705)
It's your money and your time. You can always come up with excuses to not make forward progress toward your goal if you let yourself. I don't think anyone here expects you to actually turbo your car and track it at this point. :hustler:
:fawk: |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 280702)
then everyone on miata.net says...
Get off the internet and turbo your already shit. You won't know what works for you and your car at your tracks untill you do it. If you gotta hack shit then hack it, when it's actually necessary. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 280706)
I'm living in a hotel, 1000 miles from home currently. This car will roll the tires soon enough.
Living on the road sucks, and I understand you're probably just trying to kill time and overthinking shit because you can't actually turn wrenches. But if you're able to make 10+ trackdays a year, you can just skip one and get your car done. |
Originally Posted by BenR
(Post 280708)
Living on the road sucks, and I understand you're probably just trying to kill time and overthinking shit because you can't actually turn wrenches. But if you're able to make 10+ trackdays a year, you can just skip one and get your car done.
I really wanted to go to Hallett and rape then spit on everyone this year. I told myself last year that it was a good, conservative goal. |
NA or NB: NA
whp/wtq: 200ish at 10psi(track boost) which turbo: t25 radiator brand and thickness: godspeed (who fuckin knows???) intercooler size: srt4 (24x6x3??ish) oil cooler?:NOPE AC condenser?: NOPE shroud on the front?:NOPE undertray?:NOPE coolant reroute?:NOPE fan model:FAL 1600cfm which shroud?:NOPE scooper?:NOPE hood vent?:NOPE mods to bumper?NOPE: track stuff track location:Ft Sask. Alberta ever overheated?:NOPE highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur:30C(highest its been, can go higher) |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 280702)
I love this shit. Everyone here says this, which I believe, then everyone on miata.net says you have to buy a $500 radiator and $400 shroud with fans.
I don't see how air coming through the intercooler is so super heated that it can't cool water in the radiator. The culprits seem to be the A/C and lowprofile fans. Without the A/C condenser pumping heat into the radiator, it is fine at any speed. The lowprofile fans don't seem to do the job that the OEM ones did at low speeds and stopped.. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 280702)
I love this shit. Everyone here says this, which I believe, then everyone on miata.net says you have to buy a $500 radiator and $400 shroud with fans.
I don't see how air coming through the intercooler is so super heated that it can't cool water in the radiator. Chris |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 280702)
I love this shit. Everyone here says this, which I believe, then everyone on miata.net says you have to buy a $500 radiator and $400 shroud with fans.
I don't see how air coming through the intercooler is so super heated that it can't cool water in the radiator. I never overheated on my 92 with the huge fricking Starion i/c covering the whole mouth in TEXAS HEAT. And that's according to the heat sensor on my old link so it was being monitored. Run what you have and see how it goes. |
Originally Posted by olderguy
(Post 280750)
Last year on stock radiator and fans, I overheated at the track. This year with Godspeed and low profile fans I have overheated parked.
The culprits seem to be the A/C and lowprofile fans. Without the A/C condenser pumping heat into the radiator, it is fine at any speed. The lowprofile fans don't seem to do the job that the OEM ones did at low speeds and stopped.. |
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