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Braineack 09-21-2006 11:38 AM

Turbo Specialties...
 
Finally posts pics of the acutal kit, I guess they acutally want to start selling kits. Price is pretty competitve of the the GReddy kit. I look into one of these went I was first thinking of FI, but I couldn't find one bit of info. I think one or two members on M.net have the kit, but no one to my knowledge has shown pics of it installed. I liked to see the install instructions and more info.

Superior (compariable to GReddy):
http://www.turbospecialties-race.com...01Superior.jpg
This kit can be had for $1500-1600, the piping has me so confused. I don't see how it would work.

Extreme (2 addition injectors or SAPC for extra fuel):
http://www.turbospecialties-race.com...ts/MM2501e.jpg
This kit can be had for $2800


Off an accord TSI kit:
http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/i...o/DSCF0001.jpg

http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/i...o/DSCF0002.jpg

http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/i...o/DSCF0003.jpg

magnamx-5 09-21-2006 11:57 AM

there was a guy who installed it on m.net cant recall his name but he seemed happy with it. Ok found it mx5tunnerchalenge he hasnt been online for about a month i pm'd him and asked for pics and driving impresions his last post just said he was fast now and nothing more since.

Braineack 09-21-2006 01:18 PM

yeah that was the guy, I saw a few of his posts. When I was looking for an entry level kit I came across it. But the lack of info or replys from the company themselves I shyed away.

Joe Perez 09-21-2006 01:47 PM

Interesting... Looks like a superior manifold design to the Greddy, and I like the idea of a water-cooled Garrett. Of course I just installed a Greddy last month...

I notice they're located in CA- any word on CARB certification? I saw nothing about it on their website.

RicanmiataRacer 09-21-2006 01:56 PM

they sell those kits on ebay. do a search and you'll find one that looks to be the same thing

RicanmiataRacer 09-21-2006 01:57 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Garre...33278074QQrdZ1

hustler 09-22-2006 02:42 PM

cool. I think I can do home brew cheaper though, and I don't want to mess with that watercooled crap.

Braineack 09-22-2006 02:52 PM

watercooled isn't hard. If I had known any better I'd want to do it.

hustler 09-22-2006 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by braineack (Post 45984)
watercooled isn't hard. If I had known any better I'd want to do it.

does it really help bearing life? I always thought it was a waste.

Braineack 09-22-2006 10:56 PM

just considering how easy it is to plumb, and the fact that is shoudl extend the life and keep the oil slightly cooler in the CHRA, it's worth the minimal effort.

Pitlab77 09-23-2006 10:40 AM

how worth it is it really. If you are using synthetic oil. I think overheating on miatas with turbos is aidded by watercooled turbos

nicacus 09-25-2006 09:44 AM

if your turbo is water cooled do you have to plumb it?

bripab007 09-25-2006 10:00 AM

Dude, plumbing the water-cooling lines is like a 10-min. job, if that. Ridiculous easy.

nicacus 09-25-2006 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by bripab007 (Post 46341)
Dude, plumbing the water-cooling lines is like a 10-min. job, if that. Ridiculous easy.

well if it is that easy I will definitely do it, just wanted to know if it was a must, what do you plumb them from?

shuiend 09-25-2006 10:15 AM

After looking around their site they seem to have a 1.8 kit for pretty cheap. I think I just might have to be a guinea pig for this kit. Now just to get a job and start saving up the money.

Braineack 09-25-2006 02:55 PM

Lars you thinking about turboing now?

For the price a BEGi Series Z would be way better direction.

shuiend 09-25-2006 04:37 PM

Scott I am considering it highly. I am still on the fence though and without a job it is just a thought for now.

The Z series is 1000$ more then base kit from turbo specities. I would probally go with the base kit then just do everythign else on my own. I just dont have the knowledge yet to do a diy and not completely mess up something as I have to use my car as a daily driver. Maybe if I ever see you again at an autocross or meet we can talk more in detail about it.

TurboTim 09-25-2006 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by nicacus (Post 46342)
well if it is that easy I will definitely do it, just wanted to know if it was a must, what do you plumb them from?

No it is not a must. Silly not to do it, but not required either. I plumbed mine where FM recommended, in series with the small hose going from the thermostat housing to the "mixing manifold" (radiator pipe going into water pump).

nicacus 09-26-2006 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 46416)
No it is not a must. Silly not to do it, but not required either. I plumbed mine where FM recommended, in series with the small hose going from the thermostat housing to the "mixing manifold" (radiator pipe going into water pump).

cool, thanks for answering my stupid questions

samnavy 09-26-2006 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 46412)
Scott I am considering it highly. I am still on the fence though and without a job it is just a thought for now. I just dont have the knowledge yet to do a diy and not completely mess up something as I have to use my car as a daily driver. Maybe if I ever see you again at an autocross or meet we can talk more in detail about it.

SHIEUND and NICAUS!!!!
I hate to toot my own horn, but I was in the same position a few months ago you guys seem to be in now. Check out this thread.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4455
It's seven pages long, but well worth reading every post in it. I go pretty much step by step, start to (almost) finish (discussion/theory/options) through every part needed for a nice and safe 1.6 8-9psi turbo kit, with 12psi just an eManage away. It will fill in all the gaps in your current knowledge. Lots of 1.8 stuff applies here too.

I think the kit Brain links looks OK at face value... but it doesn't include anything for spark or fuel (as already pointed out) except a regulator none of us have ever seen. A Bipes and Walbro/Pierburg are another $350 new...
The couplers look like cheap rubber and none of the clamps are T-bolt style, they're all screw style. The downpipe and intercooler piping look like cheap thin crap. There is way too much piping and coupling involved. The BOV looks like cheap Chinese knock-off Greddy ricer crap... on and on looks like cheap crap.

For the $1600, you could do way better than that kit including a Bipes and fuel pump by just being patient and sourcing stuff used.

For the $2800 you can pick up a used FM2 kit.

But it will be interesting to get someone to be the guinea pig for that kit... I've been wrong before.

nicacus 09-26-2006 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 46534)
SHIEUND and NICAUS!!!!
I hate to toot my own horn, but I was in the same position a few months ago you guys seem to be in now. Check out this thread.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4455
It's seven pages long, but well worth reading every post in it. I go pretty much step by step, start to (almost) finish (discussion/theory/options) through every part needed for a nice and safe 1.6 8-9psi turbo kit, with 12psi just an eManage away. It will fill in all the gaps in your current knowledge. Lots of 1.8 stuff applies here too.

I think the kit Brain links looks OK at face value... but it doesn't include anything for spark or fuel (as already pointed out) except a regulator none of us have ever seen. A Bipes and Walbro/Pierburg are another $350 new...
The couplers look like cheap rubber and none of the clamps are T-bolt style, they're all screw style. The downpipe and intercooler piping look like cheap thin crap. There is way too much piping and coupling involved. The BOV looks like cheap Chinese knock-off Greddy ricer crap... on and on looks like cheap crap.

For the $1600, you could do way better than that kit including a Bipes and fuel pump by just being patient and sourcing stuff used.

For the $2800 you can pick up a used FM2 kit.

But it will be interesting to get someone to be the guinea pig for that kit... I've been wrong before.


I have been following that thread since you started it :bigtu:
I already have most everything I need, ( I am short a bipes, downpipe, BOV water/oil lines, and the IC pipping)
I have kept my budget under 500 so far :bigtu:
I got the 16g and manifold off ebay for $200 plus an extra RHB05- all free from my dad as a b-day present
AFPR for $25 from Flyin Miata deal of the day!!
ebay intercooler- $100
some pipes from he who shall not be named about $50
free injectors from a friend.

jayc72 09-26-2006 03:51 PM

Bipes you say? I've got a bipes for sale. If you are also in need of a fuel pump I've got one of those too. :)

nicacus 09-26-2006 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 46565)
Bipes you say? I've got a bipes for sale. If you are also in need of a fuel pump I've got one of those too. :)

how much?

shuiend 09-26-2006 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 46534)
SHIEUND and NICAUS!!!!
I hate to toot my own horn, but I was in the same position a few months ago you guys seem to be in now. Check out this thread.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4455
It's seven pages long, but well worth reading every post in it. I go pretty much step by step, start to (almost) finish (discussion/theory/options) through every part needed for a nice and safe 1.6 8-9psi turbo kit, with 12psi just an eManage away. It will fill in all the gaps in your current knowledge. Lots of 1.8 stuff applies here too.

I think the kit Brain links looks OK at face value... but it doesn't include anything for spark or fuel (as already pointed out) except a regulator none of us have ever seen. A Bipes and Walbro/Pierburg are another $350 new...
The couplers look like cheap rubber and none of the clamps are T-bolt style, they're all screw style. The downpipe and intercooler piping look like cheap thin crap. There is way too much piping and coupling involved. The BOV looks like cheap Chinese knock-off Greddy ricer crap... on and on looks like cheap crap.

For the $1600, you could do way better than that kit including a Bipes and fuel pump by just being patient and sourcing stuff used.

For the $2800 you can pick up a used FM2 kit.

But it will be interesting to get someone to be the guinea pig for that kit... I've been wrong before.


I want to thank you for your evaluation of the kit. It is simply one more possibilty for me to choose at this point in time. I dont plan on starting the build tell at least this winter but mroe likely not tell next spring. I am keeping my options open at this time and am avidly paying attention to what get said on this here about what works and what dosent.

Braineack 09-26-2006 05:05 PM

plus I can let you ride mine and see how you like the power levels, and I can help you with yours.

I was thinking about going out to the CDC event on the 7th but I'm going to a wedding. Hopefully they can schedule another one before the season is over.

shuiend 09-26-2006 05:51 PM

Or Scott I can just use you for your intense amount of first hand knowledge. I dont need to make my engine die like your first one. Thats one of the biggest reasons why I like the idea of going with a kit, but being able to do 5psi with no intercooler for 1500$ or so is very very tempting.

Braineack 09-26-2006 07:22 PM

I bet with all the used stuff for sale you could get it cheaper. I know two guys that got GReddy kits locally for under $900. But yes I can help make the journey easier, with my limited knowledge

magnamx-5 10-21-2006 02:31 PM

Direct quote from the guyy running one of these. He ran a 14.6 1/4 mile not to bad. :bigtu:
I was only running 5psi but here are my other mods: First off i have a stage 1 act hd clutch with a fidanza lightweight flywheel. This helps alot with getting all the power to the wheels. I have a custom built 2.5'' exhaust system with a highflow cat. Then of corse i threw on the turbo specialties kit with custom pipeing and intake along with it a HKS bov. If you were thinking about purchasing this kit there are a few things to consider. First off if you want the kit I would go with the extreme kit but i wouldnt really recommend the superior because of the fpr and other little modifications you would have to make. The reason I chose the superior is because i wanted to kind of put my own thing together. Anyway the fpr is a vortec 10:1 and leaned my engine out which could of really screwed me. Make sure you have someone in line to tune the car, rather it be yourself or a professional. Since my rings fried though im going to take the chance to rebuild the bottom end. Im going to do this setup with wiseco 9:1 forged pistons and i thought about some rods aswell but im still looking for a good price for rods. The piston size im going with is 84mm which would be a 1mm overbore. Then im going to invest in another setup I think is kind of uncommon that iv seen in the mx5 wolrd. Im going to use a Greddy ultimate and turn the boost up to about 10psi and also put a big frontmount intercooler on. I hopeing with this setup and a lsd i should be putting down around 210rwhp and be running in the mid to low 13s.

Atlanta93LE 10-21-2006 07:02 PM

nicacus: where did you get a 16g and manifold for $200! That sounds tempting!

magnamx-5 10-22-2006 01:45 AM

ebay baby the megan racing stuff do a search for miata downpipe and the dp and manifold will be there for cheap

magnamx-5 10-22-2006 01:47 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Miata...QQcmdZViewItem

boostinsteve 10-22-2006 03:04 AM

Holy schnap, I wonder if those manifolds are worth a shit. If they are, I can see where my next turbo manifold will be coming from.

Atlanta93LE 10-22-2006 08:14 AM

But he said he scored the 16g as well as the manifold for $200. I can't seem to find small 16g's anywhere.

magnamx-5 10-22-2006 08:26 AM

http://www.dsmparts.com

magnamx-5 10-22-2006 08:28 AM

like any tubular header there are alot of people with cracking issues mine seem to be holding up fine remember guys this will not fit your greddy td04-15g/c turbos those are to small to fit these man sized manifolds


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