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thesnowboarder 01-17-2009 12:38 PM

I blew a turbo a while back being the idiot that i am, i tightened my steel braided return line and it kinked right behind my charge pipe so i couldn't see it without really looking hard. It restricted flow enough and oil passed the seals. Poured out the tail pipe just like the OPers charge pipes look, my charge pipes looked identical to his at the time of fail. Granted this was on a journal bearing turbo so im not sure the strength of the BB turbos, but i blew mine in a long 25 seconds.

bryanlow 01-17-2009 02:27 PM

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Ok, it isn't the turbo. There's no external restrictor, but it's a brand new turbo so I think it has one built in. And the drain line is pretty straight. It's as straight as I could get it and there are no kinks.

My experiment with the makeshift catch can was very telling.
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Don't ever do this!

After driving about 30mi. it started smoking again. I stopped to check it out and the can was full and spilling out onto the exhaust. That's a full 12oz of oil! Short length of hose and a downward slope--not a good idea. Strangely the breather I put on the pcv valve never showed signs of oil. So I figured the valve is staying shut and forcing all of the crankcase gasses out the other vent. I think the increased velocity may have been aerosolizing the oil and helping it escape as well.

So I gutted the pcv and drilled out the orifice to a decent size then connected both vents with a tee to the can. Like this:
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The longer length of hose and an upward slope of the runs help with oil recovery. So far so good. I've only got a couple of drops in the can after 10 mi.

bryanlow 01-17-2009 02:30 PM

Also don't connect the vent to your intake the way BEGi shows. That's what started this problem in the first place.

akaryrye 01-17-2009 02:41 PM

I had the vent hooked up directly to the intake like they recommend on my 90' when it had the turbo setup and I never had that problem. I had a bit of oil in the intake, but just a little coating on the pipes.

Braineack 01-17-2009 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by bryanlow (Post 354797)
Also don't connect the vent to your intake the way BEGi shows. That's what started this problem in the first place.


OKAY. :jerkit: <----that's sarcasm.

The breather line back into the intake is one of the better way of relieving excess crankcase pressure. While it may get some oil vapors/mist into your intake, it's of no concern.

The problem is:
  1. too much oil pressure.
    1. this causes the oil to push past the turbo's dynamic seals
    2. can be caused from a number of things, typically poor drainage.
  2. pressurized crankcase.
    1. boost pushes oil form the pcv out the breather line.
  3. bad rings.
    1. blow by is forced out the breather line through the compression loss of the rings.
I don't see a drop of oil out my breather line into my intake. I did however when I had very poor rings.
The fact that without a pcv hooked up and you filled the catch can, I'm suggesting you check your wet/dry compression asI believe you have condition #3.


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