upgrading brakes
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upgrading brakes
finally upgrading my stock (1.8) brakes, stock pads are due for a replacement and I'm looking to get street/mild track pads, steel braided brakelines and fresh fluid
probably going to use porterfield R4S pads, with the braided steel lines from good-win-racing (website seems done?) and dot 4 fluid (or dot 5?)
mostly street and mild trackduty about every month (Zandvoort )
what fluid should I go for?
and how about rotors? my stock ones are still in good condition, so if I don't necessarily need them, I'll wait before replacing them
funny thing is, pads, lines, fluid and possibly rotors too, are cheaper for me in the US, even including shipping, than from europe
probably going to use porterfield R4S pads, with the braided steel lines from good-win-racing (website seems done?) and dot 4 fluid (or dot 5?)
mostly street and mild trackduty about every month (Zandvoort )
what fluid should I go for?
and how about rotors? my stock ones are still in good condition, so if I don't necessarily need them, I'll wait before replacing them
funny thing is, pads, lines, fluid and possibly rotors too, are cheaper for me in the US, even including shipping, than from europe
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use a DOT 3 compatible fluid, like a DOT 5.1 fluid.
ATE sluper blue (500°F)
Amsoil Series 500 High-Performance DOT 3 (400°F)
Valvoline SynPower (500°F)
get cheap *** NAPA blanks or resurface yours.
ATE sluper blue (500°F)
Amsoil Series 500 High-Performance DOT 3 (400°F)
Valvoline SynPower (500°F)
get cheap *** NAPA blanks or resurface yours.
#3
I've had very good experience with:
http://www.raceshopper.com/hawk_brake_compounds.shtml
I run Hawk HPS on my daily/track toy, ATE blue, and Goodridge lines. I'm not boosted, but so far, I haven't had any issues with fade, or rotor life, and pad life has been excellent (7K street miles, 12 or so track days, down to about 25% or so).
http://www.raceshopper.com/hawk_brake_compounds.shtml
I run Hawk HPS on my daily/track toy, ATE blue, and Goodridge lines. I'm not boosted, but so far, I haven't had any issues with fade, or rotor life, and pad life has been excellent (7K street miles, 12 or so track days, down to about 25% or so).
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Yes, email me soflarick at bellsouth.net, give you a deal. You can get it by individual pints or by the case. I am trying to see if they'll start selling it by cases of 6, since cases of 12 is a little much for most of us. It's got the same boiling points as Motul 600 (I think the dry point is 5-10º lower on the Amsoil, but wet is the same) but is half the price.
I've been using ATE Super Blue, and once my last 2 liters are gone I'm switching to Amsoil 600. I've got to swap front calipers and do a complete flush of the brakes and clutch so 1 liter will be used up right there.
I've been using ATE Super Blue, and once my last 2 liters are gone I'm switching to Amsoil 600. I've got to swap front calipers and do a complete flush of the brakes and clutch so 1 liter will be used up right there.
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stay away from the R4s for track, i've heard they crumble from track guys. i do run em on the street and never had a problem. actually had em on my car on the track once and they were fine, still are fine. about 100k miles later.
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Also, I've driven home (a few hundred miles) on XP8's with no problem.
Carbotech's are expensive, but you appreciate it every time you hit the brake pedal.
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I can't (and won't) swap pads and rotors every 3-4 weekends, so for now I'll have to compromise
soflarick: thanks, I'll shoot you an e-mail soon
done, let me know
soflarick: thanks, I'll shoot you an e-mail soon
done, let me know
Last edited by Oscar; 01-25-2008 at 08:19 AM.
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The R4S's are probably going to be more aggressive stoppers than the Ultimates. Ultimates are nice street pads that can handle light track duty. They dust quite a bit, but are quiet and seem to last a while. I used to run them on my car until I got a big brake kit. I didn't use the brakes very hard on track as I was a novice.
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funny, people here swear by r4s's or ultimates for light to medium track use on a streetcar
I can live with a bit more dust and noise, but need pads to work good both on track (novice-level) and street
I can live with a bit more dust and noise, but need pads to work good both on track (novice-level) and street