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Gideon 04-19-2018 03:14 PM

What gear to dyno in a 6sd...
 
Hello everyone,
I have a 2000 Miata 6spd and we are supposed to dyno close to a 1.00 gear ratio as possible but all I see are people dyno'ing their cars in 4th. So is it customary to dyno always in 4th?
Also if dyno'd in 4th compared to 5th in my set up what would be the difference?
1st - 3.76:1
2nd - 2.27:1
3rd - 1.65:1
4th - 1.26:1
5th - 1.00:1
6th - 0.84:1

codrus 04-19-2018 03:36 PM

The car will make slightly more power on the dyno in 5th, both because of the higher gear ratio and because there's less loss in the transmission (the 1:1 ratio is achieved by directly coupling the input & output shafts together with no gear teeth involved) The 1:1 gear is also strongest (for the same reason) which is another good reason for dynoing a high power Miata in it.

I always use the 1:1 ratio.

--Ian

18psi 04-19-2018 03:37 PM

Very little, if any

Gideon 04-19-2018 03:57 PM

Thanks for the input guys. I will dyno the car in 5th.
It is on May 3rd. I will post the numbers in the Dyno section.

2000 Miata
fm2 kit (old school kit/with the 4 extra injectors ,the Red intercooler piping and running a Link ECU )
gt2554r Turbo
11psi @ 2800rpm -
2.5 exhaust all the back to the muffler. (fm kit with the turbo exhaust muffler with dual tips.
Any guesses on power?

18psi 04-19-2018 03:59 PM

180-220

concealer404 04-19-2018 03:59 PM

Between 180whp and 250whp depending on dyno. 350whp+ if it's a Mustang dyno.

codrus 04-19-2018 04:05 PM

I made a max of about 230 with that kit, although I had a 2560 on it and ran 15 psi. 180 if you're running the default conservative timing map, there's 20-30 more if you've got the octane and testicular fortitude to do it. :)

--Ian

Savington 04-19-2018 04:15 PM

5th, always.

codrus 04-19-2018 05:33 PM

So I went back to dig through my dyno charts and my memory was a bit off (hey, it was 10 years ago). My best dyno chart with the old Link kit was 218:

http://www.codrus.com/dyno/atp/atp-dyno.jpg

Once you get those kits up to around 240-250 rwhp the stock ECU starts throwing MAF overvoltage codes because it doesn't believe how much air is going through the MAF sensor any more. If the boost spiked badly then I would get those.

I have a 245 rwhp dyno from the same plumbing but replacing the Link with a Hydra.

--Ian

Gideon 05-03-2018 01:18 PM


Gideon 05-03-2018 01:21 PM


Gideon 05-03-2018 01:31 PM

72 degrees 83% humidity 720 feet elevation .

The boost was fluctuating causing the small dips - now after re-setting the WG Sensor - it is stable .
‘So this is with using the conservative mapping from Flyin Miata . So next on the agenda is to smooth out and hopefully fatten up the power curve by putting some timing back in .

I am installing a wideband A/F in a week - when it comes in . Then back to the dyno.

I have no A/F readings from the Dyno run .

pdexta 05-03-2018 04:11 PM

Nice numbers, congrats. That drop in torque from 4000-5000rpms is unusual. Maybe an overboost, or needs some fuel/timing adjustments. If you're still on the stock timing map there's most likely some decent power left in it with more timing.

codrus 05-03-2018 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 1480274)
Nice numbers, congrats. That drop in torque from 4000-5000rpms is unusual. Maybe an overboost, or needs some fuel/timing adjustments. If you're still on the stock timing map there's most likely some decent power left in it with more timing.

That's probably the boost controller spiking, the algorithm in the Link Piggyback is not very good.

--Ian

Savington 05-03-2018 11:03 PM

Torque curve fluctuations of that size are almost entirely caused by unstable boost control, as the OP said


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