At what point wouldn't you slap a turbo on?
Just curious if people have gone through with turbo install on a motor that is over 200,000km (125k miles). My NA has 214,000km and I am debating either going to turbo route with current motor (After I perform compression test) or try and find a salvage 1.8 and going that route and dropping it in.
I have done rebuilds before, but I figure if I am going to do it I would end up doing it right. Forged everything in a 1.8. As far as goals, I am looking to get around 190-200whp. But I think that might be asking to much on a older motor. :sad2: |
Plenty people have put turbos on post 125k. I just put one on at 121k.
Compression test will really tell you the most, though. |
Originally Posted by Onyxyth
(Post 1077918)
Plenty people have put turbos on post 125k. I just put one on at 121k.
Compression test will really tell you the most, though. |
As long as a leakdown test shows good, forget what the odometer says.
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If you're planning to rebuild it anyways, what does it matter if it's got 5 miles on it or 5 million? As long as the block isn't ventilated, they're both identical after the end of the rebuild.
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if it's getting built, who cares?
if it's not getting built, who cares? so long as it's healthy, boost it an don't worry about it. |
Four years ago my 1.6 started using oil , I threw in a " good " used 1.8 with 200km on it as a stop gap measure. Added a FM II two kit 2 years ago . It sees 14psi pretty much daily . (Yes I know I'm pushing my luck) ,it doesn't use any oil to speak of . Just takes a licking and keeps on ticking . Mileage seems to be a lot less important than how it's been cared for. The only thing it's had , that I consider out of the normal maintenance regime , is an oil pump and that was only done because I have some suspicions about Mazda oil pumps and their relief valves. Fred
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Originally Posted by fooger03
(Post 1077946)
If you're planning to rebuild it anyways, what does it matter if it's got 5 miles on it or 5 million? As long as the block isn't ventilated, they're both identical after the end of the rebuild.
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1077948)
if it's getting built, who cares?
if it's not getting built, who cares? so long as it's healthy, boost it an don't worry about it.
Originally Posted by fredb
(Post 1077955)
Four years ago my 1.6 started using oil , I threw in a " good " used 1.8 with 200km on it as a stop gap measure. Added a FM II two kit 2 years ago . It sees 14psi pretty much daily . (Yes I know I'm pushing my luck) ,it doesn't use any oil to speak of . Just takes a licking and keeps on ticking . Mileage seems to be a lot less important than how it's been cared for. The only thing it's had , that I consider out of the normal maintenance regime , is an oil pump and that was only done because I have some suspicions about Mazda oil pumps and their relief valves. Fred
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I think taking a healthy 1.6 out and putting a healthy 1.8 in its place is worth the hassle for the added performance. especially if you think you might build a motor later on.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1078087)
I think taking a healthy 1.6 out and putting a healthy 1.8 in its place is worth the hassle for the added performance. especially if you think you might build a motor later on.
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Find 1.8 and rebuild it.
During that, throw on a FM DIY kit with MS and COPs on the 1.6 with 1.8 dp and exhaust. You'll have to call FM about this. Once the 1.6 fails, sell the engine for scrap, sell the manifold, and replace it with a 1.8 manifold. Everything else will work, you'll just need 1.8 motor mounts. |
Originally Posted by curly
(Post 1078385)
Find 1.8 and rebuild it.
During that, throw on a FM DIY kit with MS and COPs on the 1.6 with 1.8 dp and exhaust. You'll have to call FM about this. Once the 1.6 fails, sell the engine for scrap, sell the manifold, and replace it with a 1.8 manifold. Everything else will work, you'll just need 1.8 motor mounts. I hate not being able to do the compression test till next week. I am too excited for this project. |
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