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Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 02:31 PM

Who wants a Full Carbon Dash?
 
Ok fellas I will not drop the names as of yet, I just want to see how many NA miata owners would like a real carbon dash for their miata. Non of that ViS or other makes that make carbon wrapped fiberglass parts, this thing is real deal, multiple layers or carbon fiber inside and out. It can be sealed for smooth, yet dry carbon look, or clearcoated for shine.

Right now they made a s13 dash which I held with 3 fingers, the whole thing weighted 5lbs.

Dont matter what I will be getting one and then will post pictures for all of you to see, the price is not final yet, but im assuming the more interest there is the more they can make (knowing there is market for it) at affordable price to you.

So whos interested?

hustler 09-28-2009 02:36 PM

this should be affordable.

curly 09-28-2009 02:44 PM

I held my stock dash with one finger.

It's not the skin but the metal structure, wiring harness, and hvac hardware that weigh a lot.

rharris19 09-28-2009 02:45 PM

Probably not too much of a demand. My gutted dash from a 90-93 only weighs about 4-5lbs without the frame. The weight is all in the metal tube frame under it.

edit: beat me to it

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 02:46 PM

maybe thats why they crack lol.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-28-2009 02:55 PM

I'm sure it would be popular with the club roadster crowd but I don't think I could justify the cost personally

UrbanSoot 09-28-2009 03:25 PM

i might be in if they can make me one without air vents and perhaps a radio surround without air vents/hvac holes. can they do stuff to my specs (id like to re-position my 7" touch screen which resides in radio surround to a different angle/location)? any idea on price? any way to make it absorb light instead of reflecting it or would i have to paint it?

neogenesis2004 09-28-2009 03:26 PM

:facepalm: Slava :facepalm:

UrbanSoot 09-28-2009 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 460717)
:facepalm: Slava :facepalm:

yeah yeah yeah... but wouldnt it be cool to build all the sensors/gauges to be EXACTLY where you want them? plus it would be great to custom mount for arduino in there with easy access (for those quick c++ bug fixes when shit goes wrong at the track)

neogenesis2004 09-28-2009 03:34 PM

HAHA, I guess. Not sure how many people are coding on the track.

I think it would be easier to just rip out the stock dash and make your own from flat carbon panels.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-28-2009 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 460722)
yeah yeah yeah... but wouldnt it be cool to build all the sensors/gauges to be EXACTLY where you want them? plus it would be great to custom mount for arduino in there with easy access (for those quick c++ bug fixes when shit goes wrong at the track)

Hey what do you know a fellow arduino junkie. I've been trying to figure out a good miata based project for the atmega chip for a while now, haha

neogenesis2004 09-28-2009 04:29 PM

I just got him to buy one over the weekend. I personally have been developing a "to-be" OS WI monitor/controller. Troubleshooting flow meter input atm. Hush hush right now until I have a working example.

UrbanSoot 09-28-2009 04:37 PM

ill be building an idle stabilization for my gsxr itb kit that has stepper motor for secondary (idle) butterflies. it will be based on rpm input through this sucker and gm map sensor. as an added bonus, ill build a led array for rpm display (like this one but only if that frequency to voltage converter has enough resolution) and a 10hz gps/accelerometer datalogger.

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 460716)
i might be in if they can make me one without air vents and perhaps a radio surround without air vents/hvac holes. can they do stuff to my specs (id like to re-position my 7" touch screen which resides in radio surround to a different angle/location)? any idea on price? any way to make it absorb light instead of reflecting it or would i have to paint it?

Yes they can do that, when they "seal" it it will look like dry carbon so no reflections there. They produce carbon parts for the government such as nose for fighter jets, and laser transmitters. All their carbon is military grade not some weave your grandma made in her spare time :)

neogenesis2004 09-28-2009 09:48 PM

Sounding even more expensive every time you post.

Cspence 09-28-2009 09:57 PM

:useless:

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 460943)
Sounding even more expensive every time you post.

lol, yes it does. BUT the company is not well known he tried making hoods, and wrx/sti scoops and nobody bought (even though his material is much better) because there are companies such as ViS and Seibon who have been around for year, and even though his prices were same as competition or less.

Thats one of the reasons he wants to start making dashes and other stuff, that no one else makes, "get the name out there" so to say. I assure you the price will be fair.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-28-2009 10:05 PM

why not make body panels? or hard tops?

The main reason why CF hoods dont seem to sell well in the miata world is because the stock one is aluminum, and when you remove the under bracing its extremely light.

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 10:08 PM

Ok just got the word, price will be $800-1200 depending on the dash.

I can get pictures tomorrow.

Cspence 09-28-2009 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 460955)
why not make body panels? or hard tops?

What he said!


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 460955)
The main reason why CF hoods dont seem to sell well in the miata world is because the stock one is aluminum, and when you remove the under bracing its extremely light.

What he said! Again...

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 460955)
why not make body panels? or hard tops?

The main reason why CF hoods dont seem to sell well in the miata world is because the stock one is aluminum, and when you remove the under bracing its extremely light.

He can make hardtops, actually asked me if I wanted one, but Im not a fan of CF on the outside of my cars.

If theres marked for hard tops, i can use my HT as a model for him to make CF one.

We just dropped off GTR 33 shell (time attack project) for him to make the whole shell out of kevlar. including doors, hood, trunk, bumpers, roof....everything.

neogenesis2004 09-28-2009 10:10 PM

Wow, entirely too much for a dash. That's such a worthless "upgrade" when there is nearly no weight savings or performance gain. I could buy a sick 2871 with a tial housing from atp for that much.

Cspence 09-28-2009 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Project_MX-5 (Post 460959)
Ok just got the word, price will be $800-1200 depending on the dash.

I can get pictures tomorrow.

Damn, that shit betta be nice...

mazda/nissan 09-28-2009 10:12 PM

Instead of a generic hard top, I would rather have one that is more aerodynamically efficient. Did I mention it should fit?

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 460955)
why not make body panels? or hard tops?

The main reason why CF hoods dont seem to sell well in the miata world is because the stock one is aluminum, and when you remove the under bracing its extremely light.

thats why im not posting about hoods, he never made one for a miata.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-28-2009 10:18 PM

I want a hardtop with a big scoop so I can get ram air induction in my face

Cspence 09-28-2009 10:20 PM

There's definitly a market for cf parts, but there is also definitly a price point that needs to be hit, well that is you want to make money and sell some parts....show us some stuff and I'm sure you'll find what the market is calling for....

mazda/nissan 09-28-2009 10:20 PM

Full tilt a hole could just be cut into a reg. hard top, somebody has done that already if my memory is correct. However even with the hard top our cars aren't very aerodynamic. Someone on M.net made a hard top that turned the miata into a hatchback. It had a long sloped rear glass and removed the trunk lid. However it fit like shit, but it looked cool.

Cspence 09-28-2009 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by mazda/nissan (Post 460990)
Full tilt a hole could just be cut into a reg. hard top, somebody has done that already if my memory is correct. However even with the hard top our cars aren't very aerodynamic. Someone on M.net made a hard top that turned the miata into a hatchback. It had a long sloped rear glass and removed the trunk lid. However it fit like shit, but it looked cool.

Splitime has the hole cut in the top
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/...e6043d94_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3619/...22c4eea9_b.jpg


Here is a nb with the "fastback" "coupe" top...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...iataCoupe2.jpg

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/att...on-hardtop.jpg

http://autokonexion.com/images/image...astback1_1.jpg

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-28-2009 10:24 PM

The fast back is a cool idea but like you said, it could have been executed better.

The Spoon fastback for the s2000 is an example of how good it can be when its done right

http://wiredonhonda.com/photos/redli...nemay09037.jpg

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mazda/nissan (Post 460975)
Instead of a generic hard top, I would rather have one that is more aerodynamically efficient. Did I mention it should fit?

Fitment wont be a problem, every part is hand made, its not mass production. They just made a Lamborghini wing for a customer (lambos are hand made so nothing is perfectly straight on the car as is)

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mazda/nissan 09-28-2009 10:27 PM

this buddy of yours should make fiberglass fast back tops. Doubt many people would pay for the CF, but FG could be awesome and relatively cheap.

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 460992)
Here is a nb with the "fastback" "coupe" top...

Its a miata coupe, never made it to US, i dont see how that design would work with the trunk, or it would just disable it completely. (talking about red coupe)

mazda/nissan 09-28-2009 10:37 PM

The third pic is the Jap. coupe, all others are hard tops. The last picture shows what I would love to have, but with it fitting properly and removable.

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by mazda/nissan (Post 461000)
no that is a hard top buddy

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...iataCoupe2.jpg

ORLY??

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-28-2009 10:41 PM

*facepalm*

the other ones

mazda/nissan 09-28-2009 10:43 PM

Project Newb I thought you were talking about the last pic, didn't see there were many more before it. I should expect nothing but disappointment from you though, considering you started a thread trying to market carbon fiber dashes.

Project_MX-5 09-28-2009 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by mazda/nissan (Post 461006)
Project Newb I thought you were talking about the last pic, didn't see there were many more before it. I should expect nothing but disappointment from you though, considering you started a thread trying to market carbon fiber dashes.

Im not here to start shit, first he posted pic of what i quoted, then you said third pic down, which was the one i quoted again, then you edited your post, great job :jerkit: that would fly if I didnt sit in this thread for the past hour.

mazda/nissan 09-28-2009 11:33 PM

Lose your attitude and make something people will buy. [/thread]

UrbanSoot 09-28-2009 11:43 PM

at $800-1200 ill definitely pass. for 1lb that i will save... fuck that!

2004Busa 09-28-2009 11:55 PM

Sure would look cool though!

Project_MX-5 09-29-2009 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 461036)
at $800-1200 ill definitely pass. for 1lb that i will save... fuck that!

Thats the input I was looking for thank you.

UrbanSoot 09-29-2009 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Project_MX-5 (Post 461046)
Thats the input I was looking for thank you.

i would be interested in full carbon fiber body later though (half a year from now?) :)

Project_MX-5 09-29-2009 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 461047)
i would be interested in full carbon fiber body later though (half a year from now?) :)

We can make it happen, Ill post up pictures once the GTR r33 is done, just dropped it off last weekend.

The only problem I see is your in West coast, so you would have to ship your car cross country...or drive it :D

UrbanSoot 09-29-2009 12:19 AM

it looks just like any other miata. im sure you can make a mold out of another miata thats close to you

Project_MX-5 09-29-2009 12:21 AM

Let me know when your ready.


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