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bigred324 07-09-2012 12:19 AM

wtb miata, got questions
 
first off, I currently drive an 01 New Beetle 5 spd 1.8t with ecu tune. It has about 180hp and 200 trq. I am looking to get a miata and I want to make it go fast. I have questions about what year to get. I want to be able to pull at least 200 hp out of this thing. I already know that a turbo is required. I am mechanically inclined, so I can do it myself. I have read some people say get a 91 and put 99 heads on it but I am looking for info before I buy. Any comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

fwMiata 07-09-2012 12:31 AM

i'd like to see a 99 head put onto a 91 motor...

(hint, search and read all the stickys)

bigred324 07-09-2012 12:55 AM

oh. intake ports have changed. so done some more research and it looks like a 99 to 01 is a great choice. Mainly due to the fact that it has a beefier motor and an 01 has abs option. any thoughts or suggestions on this

viperormiata 07-09-2012 01:46 AM

read

Norms 07-17-2012 07:47 PM

Yeah. Time and time again--search function is your best friend.

natesturbo 07-17-2012 10:41 PM

You can get 200hp out of a Naturally Aspirated 1.8. Just not cheaply or any fun to drive on the street. Go sit in some. Pick the cockpit you like the best. Decide if you want more creature comforts (NB) or lighter weight (NA).

edough 07-18-2012 07:44 AM

Spend the extra money and get a rust free one.

hustler 07-18-2012 08:09 AM

K-swap.

18psi 07-18-2012 09:02 AM

T-swap

pdexta 07-18-2012 09:10 AM

With the questions your asking it sounds like you need to do some significant time on The Miata FAQ they have tons of information on basic specs, available options, features, and special editions that you need to sift through to figure out what you want out of the car before you start worrying about forced induction.


Originally Posted by natesturbo (Post 904519)
Decide if you want more creature comforts (NB) or lighter weight (NA).

+1. 94-97 if you want a racecar, 99-05 if you want a daily.

golftdibrad 07-18-2012 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 904672)


+1. 94-97 if you want a racecar, 99-05 if you want a daily.

90-93 if you want to save a few bucks and plan on forced induction anyway.

skidude 07-18-2012 09:39 AM

You have some very basic information mixed up. Read more, then ask questions. Learn the differences between the model years, and THEN decide what to buy, and what to do to it.

skidude 07-18-2012 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by golftdibrad (Post 904686)
90-93 if you want to save a few bucks and plan on forced induction anyway.

No.

18psi 07-18-2012 09:43 AM

lol 1.6 failsaus
what shocks me the most is that they go for almost as much money as the 1.8's

golftdibrad 07-18-2012 09:48 AM

I got mine for under 2k with a hardtop. Pulled a torsen swap out the junk yard for 100 bucks.

skidude 07-18-2012 10:41 AM

I just looked on the Maine craigslist to compare prices, and there seems to be no standard price. Everything from 1997 for $2500 to some idiot asking nearly $8k for a base model 1990. There was a '90 for $1500, a lot of '94 - '96 for ~$3500. It seems like maybe the 1.8 is worth an extra couple hundred around here, but most people don't seem bothered by the difference, so get the 1.8 and save the trouble of swapping everything and then living with the shame of your decision.

hornetball 07-18-2012 02:13 PM

If it were me, I'd look for a any post '93 that already had a Torsen. I'd pay extra for rust-free.

But, honestly dude, you're driving a Beetle. Doesn't really matter which Miata you buy, you'll be ahead.

Doppelgänger 07-18-2012 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by bigred324 (Post 900755)
oh. intake ports have changed. so done some more research and it looks like a 99 to 01 is a great choice. Mainly due to the fact that it has a beefier motor and an 01 has abs option. any thoughts or suggestions on this

ABS...... lol

ABS was available on ALL years. MSM has ABS standard. There is a TON of interchangability and you'll spend weeks reading up on it. Simply stating that you want 200hp is like walking into a bar and asking for a beer. You have to be specific about what your goals are. From there you'll pick your year and options that you'd like to have.

Personally, I'd go for a 01-03 non-ABS sport package with a 6spd. You get all the "good" stuff...bigger brakes, stiffer chasis, more power...among other things. Big thing to me, is that the 2004/2005 6spd cars got a 4.1 rear gear which is WAY too short for the 6spd ratios. I'd say go for a car with a clean body and the color you want...everything else can be changed out....but those two are the most expensive things to ever fix/change.

shanem 07-20-2012 02:50 PM

^^yep, my 94 M has ABS.

krissetsfire 07-20-2012 05:16 PM

just buy the first one you see. it'll save time in the long run. you're just going to waste tons of time and money on it anyway.

krissetsfire 07-20-2012 05:47 PM

in all seriousness I know everyone is telling you read and there really is A LOT of information to read. even if we were to answer your post about you having miata questions. you really haven't provided enough information for anyone to help you.

honestly though just start reading through the forum. you don't even have to search. most of the threads i find pretty entertaining anyway. I've been a member for 4 years and haven't really had to post much. If I go read through my threads I've started most of them could have been answered by searching other then me wanting justification on a guilty conscious.

zeroox 07-23-2012 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by krissetsfire (Post 905888)
just buy the first one you see. it'll save time in the long run. you're just going to waste tons of time and money on it anyway.

This statement is funny and not funny at the same time. I bought an $1800 94 in good mechanical shape but body and top bad. thinking drop some money make it fast don't worry about the looks. Now I am thinking I have $5k in turbo, computer, wheels , tires, suspension. and now i am thinking crap i have a fast miata but she sure is ugly. At the end of the day it will always just cost you.

I have friends who are into older Porsches. They always say no matter what 911 you buy it is going to cost you $25k. You can buy a perfect example for $25k or you can find one for $5k and drop $20k into it.

I agree with the reading there is a sticky that will walk you through what you need to buy then come back with specifics. but just to keep my typing skills up.

I have a 94 right now at 200hp. I try to forget how much things cost.

kit $3500 this was header, turbo, intercooler, all the piping. This could be done cheaper and where you could save some money.

mspnp $500

injectors $150ish i think.

my exhuast was choking me so that was another $200 - 250

so right therei f you go basic kit what it took me to get to 200hp on a conservitive tune.


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