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Matt Thorne 03-21-2017 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1400157)
I've used various MS units over the past 8 years, they've been around before you were even in the business of ecu's. Don't try to compare your company to theirs and compare all your "lack of issues" to their "issues".
You've not been around long enough to make claims like that. Only time will tell how your ecu/unit will do, and no amount of PR and self-praise from you will change that right now.

lol again, I'm not doing your job for you. The issues we heard about are posted here.
Being an ecu builder I'd hope you have the brainpower to search forum(s).

As I said, you have no argument to make - this is evident by you claiming to know how long I have been involved in ECUs for, which, you don't. Never assume my friend....

And, like you, I have every right to compare my company to theirs - I did, with real numbers, and facts about RMAs, support, UK tuners using it and dumping MS, what have you presented? Nothing but threats of a ban if/when you lose the argument.... :) Even if this does get deleted and banned etc, I will view this forum and your posts with a smile from this point forward :)

I'll leave it there anyway, and await the independant review from the user - welcome to the world of the 221 - both us and FM are here if you need support :)

dleavitt 03-21-2017 11:38 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5a3c5df479.jpg

SchmoozerJoe 03-21-2017 11:38 AM

Why are we discussing the ME221 in a thread about the Hydra???

Matt Thorne 03-21-2017 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by SchmoozerJoe (Post 1400160)
Why are we discussing the ME221 in a thread about the Hydra???

Because your friend 18psi commented on its value, mainly.

Every now and then I do a littler web search for ME221 etc, and on the miata turbo site there is always a comment from him somewhere - I was mainly intrigued as to what I did to offend him - seems I have to look it up though lol

-18psi - in terms of being under a different, I am unable to login on the ME one - I hardly tired to hide my identity though, should of gone with 19psi as a user name for giggles :)

18psi 03-21-2017 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Thorne (Post 1400158)
As I said, you have no argument to make - this is evident by you claiming to know how long I have been involved in ECUs for, which, you don't. Never assume my friend....

And, like you, I have every right to compare my company to theirs - I did, with real numbers, and facts about RMAs, support, UK tuners using it and dumping MS, what have you presented? Nothing but threats of a ban if/when you lose the argument.... :) Even if this does get deleted and banned etc, I will view this forum and your posts with a smile from this point forward :)

I'll leave it there anyway, and await the independant review from the user - welcome to the world of the 221 - both us and FM are here if you need support :)

That's the part you're failing to grasp: You suck at reading comprehension.

I'm an independent user. You're arguing with me and crying like a little baby because I brought up issues with your ecu when it was being developed. Which you agreed with, just a few posts up.

Let's be really clear, once again, since you can't read: the ONLY reason you're not already permanently banned is because I gave you an opportunity to not be a crybaby and participate in this discussion. You're actually doing a really good job of making yourself look like a self-praising crybaby instead of an industry professional.

Originally Posted by Matt Thorne (Post 1400162)
Because your friend 18psi commented on its value, mainly.

Every now and then I do a littler web search for ME221 etc, and on the miata turbo site there is always a comment from him somewhere - I was mainly intrigued as to what I did to offend him - seems I have to look it up though lol

bawwww, the boy at school was mean to me.
Grow up. If you want to actually get info you wouldn't be here crying that everyone is mean, you'd be looking up threads to see why we formulated this opinion about this unit.

But here we are....


Originally Posted by Matt Thorne (Post 1400162)

-18psi - in terms of being under a different, I am unable to login on the ME one - I hardly tired to hide my identity though, should of gone with 19psi as a user name for giggles :)

Braineak banned your other account. You should have done that, it would have spoken volumes about you and your company :)

But don't worry, I'm quoting this post for the giggles :giggle:

Matt Thorne 03-21-2017 11:50 AM

I am up for participating, I asked you to list the issues so they could be addressed - I have searched on here and there is not a myraid of threads, hence my confusion.... why can;t you just put a simple list? Its easier than arguing is it not?

Matt Thorne 03-21-2017 11:52 AM

Like this one (ssr\ching ME221) - its about MS, and ends with a guy recommending it - see my point, I either don;t know how to use this forum or I am missing something??? Maybe access rights as new user??

https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...e-89533/page2/


Originally Posted by Forrest95M (Post 1383206)
I'd look at me221 that all the UK people seem to love over there. Or read for a month straight and try to wrap your head around the tuning process


Girz0r 03-21-2017 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Thorne (Post 1400158)
As I said, you have no argument to make - this is evident by you claiming to know how long I have been involved in ECUs for, which, you don't. Never assume my friend....

And, like you, I have every right to compare my company to theirs - I did, with real numbers, and facts about RMAs, support, UK tuners using it and dumping MS, what have you presented? Nothing but threats of a ban if/when you lose the argument.... :) Even if this does get deleted and banned etc, I will view this forum and your posts with a smile from this point forward :)

I'll leave it there anyway, and await the independant review from the user - welcome to the world of the 221 - both us and FM are here if you need support :)


Originally Posted by Matt Thorne (Post 1400162)
Because your friend 18psi commented on its value, mainly.

Every now and then I do a littler web search for ME221 etc, and on the miata turbo site there is always a comment from him somewhere - I was mainly intrigued as to what I did to offend him - seems I have to look it up though lol

-18psi - in terms of being under a different, I am unable to login on the ME one - I hardly tired to hide my identity though, should of gone with 19psi as a user name for giggles :)

Could you please try harder to be a troll? I'm loving the fact that your true colors are showing as a ecu competitor and once previous vendor for this site.

:cjerk:

Matt Thorne 03-21-2017 11:55 AM

As I said I think my user access (maybe I cannot see certain sections) of the forum means I can;t see all the ECU issues we apparently have - apologies if that's the case, I await links, still :)

Girz0r 03-21-2017 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Thorne (Post 1400172)
As I said I think my user access (maybe I cannot see certain sections) of the forum means I can;t see all the ECU issues we apparently have - apologies if that's the case, I await links, still :)

No, you just suck at searching.

https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...t-start-91948/

They are few and far between as you weren't around for very long yourself before getting banned.

Matt Thorne 03-21-2017 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1400173)
No, you just suck at searching.

https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...t-start-91948/

They are few and far between as you weren't around for very long yourself before getting banned.

That one I believe I address above as 18psi linked to a chap called Elior - and the user manual explains how to make the FP work properly on the AFM based FP trigger cars - diagnostic link is a get you running method, which is what we did with the customer, and the manual does explain the correct solution.... null point... next... :)

Here, in the manual :) The customer chose to call us so we just told him what to do on the phone, and his car immediatly sprang to life :) Also, note, the 1st page of manual details this common issue, and where to get get help...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...rAFn5ug0/edit#

Girz0r 03-21-2017 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Thorne (Post 1400174)
That one I believe I address above as 18psi linked to a chap called Elior - and the user manual explains how to make the FP work properly on the AFM based FP trigger cars - diagnostic link is a get you running method, which is what we did with the customer, and the manual does explain the correct solution.... null point... next... :)

Here, in the manual :) The customer chose to call us so we just told him what to do on the phone, and his car immediatly sprang to life :) Also, note, the 1st page of manual details this common issue, and where to get get help...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...rAFn5ug0/edit#

Yeh No - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats. - View Profile: Ciaranmx5cork Do you even link bro?

Matt Thorne 03-21-2017 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1400175)

Haha obviously not :) Ellior posted further down the page, that is what I was referring to - as the actual ;'wont start issue' seemed like a pretty open and close, "read the manual, not really an ECU issue" kind of problem.... my mistake for thinking you considered one phone call and something that was indeed stated as an install process for that model in the manual as a serious design issue though...

Anyway, this has been fun, and I think theres not much I can add anyway - time to get back on with the wideband development :)

BTW - if I am allowed to hang around, I am happy to aid with ME221 support, though of course our susual support channels of phone, tickets or our ME Users facebook page are the preferred method of comms! Cheers

sixshooter 03-21-2017 02:04 PM

18psi was running an Adaptronic at one point. He's open to options that might work out well for a reasonable price. We all are. But your social skills are quite a turn off.

aidandj 03-21-2017 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Thorne (Post 1400174)
Also, note, the 1st page of manual details this common issue, and where to get get help...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...rAFn5ug0/edit#

Interesting picture.....

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...753eac45f9.png

Your hands look identical to the guy from DIYAutotune. @Ben I think.

MegaSquirtPNP by DIYAutoTune.com

Braineack 03-21-2017 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Thorne (Post 1400169)
Like this one (ssr\ching ME221) - its about MS, and ends with a guy recommending it - see my point, I either don;t know how to use this forum or I am missing something??? Maybe access rights as new user??

https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...e-89533/page2/


i prefer searching for the posts were you guys couldn't figure out how a DIYPNP worked, then went on to copy a DIYPNP...

sixshooter 03-21-2017 02:32 PM

Copied it right down to the manual pics? Shame they didn't give credit for all the creative and intellectual property they used. That says something about character, too.

So that's two things I don't like about him, since I'm making a list.

SchmoozerJoe 03-21-2017 02:36 PM

It took me all of about ten minutes looking at their early pre-production unit in Colorado to realize they'd... borrowed heavily... from the MS world.
I made my feelings known immediately.

The people in charge didn't seem to care.

There are many reasons why I'm not in Colorado anymore. This whole ME221 project was the biggest reason.

aidandj 03-21-2017 02:37 PM

Well they actually started by counterfeiting megasquirt boards. So it makes sense.

Megasquirt clones, copies and counterfeits - Megasquirt EFI

SchmoozerJoe 03-21-2017 02:41 PM

Chalk another one up to folks who can mimic, but not innovate.


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