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Bryce 05-09-2011 03:54 PM

http://www.use-esdf.org/

esdf is where its at.

shuiend 05-09-2011 06:20 PM

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Joe Perez 05-09-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 725275)

Their claims are bullshit.
"ESDF is the Original FPS key combination used for character control."
Uhm, no. Cursor keys were the first combo used for character control if you consider Wolfenstein 3D to be the first FPS. It is generally agreed to be the first "modern" FPS, however it was by no means the first game which allowed the character to move around through the game environment and shoot things, while displaying the playfield from the point of view of the character.

Some would argue that Seawolf (1976) was the first "real" FPS, and while it does technically qualify as one (you look through a periscope from the perspective of the sub captain who would be commanding the torpedoes to be fired), it did not support movement of the character through the environment- your sub was essentially stationary.

Maze War (c. 1973) and Phantom Slayer (1982) were technically first-person perspective, but restricted movement to corridors and did not really permit true freedom of movement.

Personally, I call Battlezone (1980) the first FPS. It was ported to several personal computers starting in 1982-1983.


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What I can't remember is what the controls were. I'm pretty sure that the C64 and Atati builds used the same twin joystick control as the arcade machine, however I don't think the DOS port did, particularly as having two joysticks connected to an x86-class machine was extremely rare, and having even one joystick was not especially common until well into the soundcard-era, which is how most people of the time got gameports on their machines in the first place.




Sidebar: Earlier today, I clicked an ad linking me to a copy of the current Wired magazine. I didn't realize that the ad would take me straight to where I could buy a copy of the magazine through Apple's iTunes service, which is what made the front cover of the magazine all the more humorous.

Here is a direct screencap, from the iTunes store:

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Sidebar II: Stellar 7 was a cool game. That is all.

trickyrix 05-09-2011 06:36 PM

I feel so sorry for all you dedicated Laker fans...

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curly 05-09-2011 09:04 PM

Joe you just named fifty FPS I didn't even know existed. I thought Golden Eye was the first FPS on N64, in 1997. Shows how young I TRULY am.

thirdgen 05-09-2011 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 725321)

U gay bro?

shuiend 05-09-2011 10:13 PM

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Enginerd 05-09-2011 10:15 PM

They mean...like...the sun?

Full_Tilt_Boogie 05-10-2011 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 724322)
Colbert is a douche. Past comments about Seal Team Six and EIT vs what he says now that Obama has killed Osama shows his hypocrisy. One thing I cannot stand is a hypocrite - especially one who is in the media and can shape opinions and elections. You see a comic but I see someone who hurts my country. It sucks to be like this because I have lost all my comic heros. :(

You do realize that hes a character actor right?
The things he says and do are him acting as a fictional character he invented. Those are not his real views or his true personality.

soflarick 05-10-2011 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 724322)
Colbert is a douche. Past comments about Seal Team Six and EIT vs what he says now that Obama has killed Osama shows his hypocrisy. One thing I cannot stand is a hypocrite - especially one who is in the media and can shape opinions and elections. You see a comic but I see someone who hurts my country. It sucks to be like this because I have lost all my comic heros. :(

Put down the pipe and peace medallion.

Joe Perez 05-10-2011 03:32 PM

Why the present day depresses me:

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icantthink4155 05-10-2011 03:34 PM

This is really horrifying

Bond 05-10-2011 04:20 PM

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Audi Buffet:

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rmcelwee 05-10-2011 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 725409)
U gay bro?


rmcelwee 05-10-2011 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 725495)
You do realize that hes a character actor right?
The things he says and do are him acting as a fictional character he invented. Those are not his real views or his true personality.

Really, I had no idea that he was an actor.

From wikipedia <G>:
"Although, by his own account, he was not particularly political before joining the cast of The Daily Show, Colbert has described himself as a Democrat according to a 2004 interview.
In an interview at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard Institute of Politics, he stated that he has "no problems with Republicans, just Republican policies".

All I am saying is that he has a rather large soapbox and speaks to a certain group of impressionable people. Some get their "facts" from him which are twisted to support a certain viewpoint. I have no problem at all with any of that. What I do have a problem with is when you spew a certain viewpoint for 8 years under one administration and then do a 180 when "your guy" gets into office. That's all I was saying. Well, except for wishing for more comedians to leave the politics behind. It gets old when every single stand up comedian throws a "Bush/Fox lies" or "Palin is stupid" joke in their routine.

I know I have thin skin on this so I will do my best to leave the politics behind in this thread from now on. Sorry for the detour.

gearhead_318 05-10-2011 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 725715)
Really, I had no idea that he was an actor.

From wikipedia <G>:
"Although, by his own account, he was not particularly political before joining the cast of The Daily Show, Colbert has described himself as a Democrat according to a 2004 interview.
In an interview at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard Institute of Politics, he stated that he has "no problems with Republicans, just Republican policies".

All I am saying is that he has a rather large soapbox and speaks to a certain group of impressionable people. Some get their "facts" from him which are twisted to support a certain viewpoint. I have no problem at all with any of that. What I do have a problem with is when you spew a certain viewpoint for 8 years under one administration and then do a 180 when "your guy" gets into office. That's all I was saying. Well, except for wishing for more comedians to leave the politics behind. It gets old when every single stand up comedian throws a "Bush/Fox lies" or "Palin is stupid" joke in their routine.

I know I have thin skin on this so I will do my best to leave the politics behind in this thread from now on. Sorry for the detour.

Oh, you mean kinda like "Papa Bear" Bill O'Reilly, except how Colbert is on COMEDY CENTRAL (obviously not a news network), whereas O'Reilly is on FOX "NEWS", which has "news" in the title. Watch the Colbert Report, it makes fun of both sides, it's a comedy show based on current events and politics, how is he supposed to leave the politics behind?
ps, Fox lies, Palin is a moron and the only good reason that anyone to vote for her is morbid curiosity. And she's hot, I'll give her that.

Yes, I realize the onion is a joke network.

sixshooter 05-10-2011 10:12 PM

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Was faster than the C6 Z06s around the course and had a 6.7 liter aluminum head Pontiac V8. Notice the fuel cell in trunk pic.

scottyd 05-10-2011 10:20 PM

That is kinda badass. For a firechicken.

Joe Perez 05-10-2011 11:04 PM

Was that out at the airfield with the Corvette club?

gearhead_318 05-11-2011 01:09 AM

"As the great warrior poet Ice Cube once said: 'if the day does not require an AK, it is good.'"


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