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Old 03-13-2012, 05:31 AM
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Anyone else notice how everyone was white?
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Originally Posted by pusha
Anyone else notice how everyone was white?
Maybe because they are in England in the 1800's?
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Originally Posted by shuiend
Maybe because they are in England in the 1800's?
"The following views of the Doxford Engine works between 1957 and 1958..."

read much?
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Originally Posted by pusha
"The following views of the Doxford Engine works between 1957 and 1958..."

read much?
I only read the first section, then scrolled down and looked at the pictures. Still how many black people were in England in the 1950's? I am willing to bet that there were not many. I would bet now that if you went to a shipyard in England now it would be mostly white people working in it.
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Originally Posted by shuiend
I only read the first section, then scrolled down and looked at the pictures. Still how many black people were in England in the 1950's? I am willing to bet that there were not many. I would bet now that if you went to a shipyard in England now it would be mostly white people working in it.
I was more trying to begin a discussion on how today you'd very rarely see a white man in a factory, save for unionized auto factories in the Midwest.
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Originally Posted by pusha
I was more trying to begin a discussion on how today you'd very rarely see a white man in a factory, save for unionized auto factories in the Midwest.
Didn't really strike me as odd. I've spent a fair bit of time over the past 2 years at the Meyer Werft shipbuilding yards in Papenberg, Germany, which is a functionally similar environment to that pictured above (albeit on a much larger scale.) Based on my own first-hand observation, I conclude that 100% of their workforce is white.


Sidebar: This is the sort of image which, were I to see it in a Hollywood picture, I would be carefully scrutinizing it looking for the matte lines:




Very cool stuff. I honestly had no idea that it was even possible to flame-cut steel a foot thick.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Very cool stuff. I honestly had no idea that it was even possible to flame-cut steel a foot thick.
oh yes. those "break into vault like steel door with torch" things are very real. it's amazing what a little oxygen and acetylene will do with the right torch tip.
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Oh hey look it's back when people gave a ---- about the quality of their work.
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Where's the turbo?
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This is approximately how I'd expect the scene to be matted:

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Funny thread. Didn't realize people here liked the big.

I have a big shop filled with all sorts of people. I don't have any issues because I exchange the people with issues back into the local labor pool.

Here's something big built in 1915 that's about to get the wrecking ball. The wrecking ball will also tear through dozens of lathes and machine tools abandoned in the building as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of brand new tooling, bearings, materials and the like. Then the torches will have to come in for the rest because its built like an aircraft carrier. About 2 hours after this pic was taken the building was padlocked forever.



Here's something big I made because a 5 inch thick copper plate I was trying to assemble was being fussy. The copper plate had about a 2 inch bow in it and is about 4 by 8 feet and 1800 lbs so you have to wrestle with her a bit. The thing its mounted on is stainless steel and weighs about 4 metric tons. After it's assembled it will get rubbed on with a cutter and make it flat over the entire surface to within 0.002 inch. it will change shape as it gets cut which makes things difficult



Big stuff is fun.
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Originally Posted by Fukalyal
Here's something big I made because a 5 inch thick copper plate I was trying to assemble was being fussy. The copper plate had about a 2 inch bow in it and is about 4 by 8 feet and 1800 lbs so you have to wrestle with her a bit.


What the hell do you use a 5" thick 4x8' copper plate for?

I honestly had no idea that they even manufactured copper sheet that large. I can't even imagine what a piece of metal like that must cost.
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It's used to make steel heres a better pic that shows the size



She is expensive. The copper color thing in this pic runs about half as much as the average house price in the USA. My newbies ask the same question and I tell them it's better not to.

I always get a kick out of people talking about machining and precision with regard to suspension, chassis, block and heads etc. When the piece in the pic is done all four corners will be within 0.001 of where they are supposed to be over a span of 12 feet and total weight of 5 tons. Only the sun shining on it will make it move.
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Originally Posted by Fukalyal
Here's something big built in 1915 that's about to get the wrecking ball. The wrecking ball will also tear through dozens of lathes and machine tools abandoned in the building as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of brand new tooling, bearings, materials and the like.
You don't have anyone to liquidate the building prior to wrecking it?
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Originally Posted by pusha
Anyone else notice how everyone was white?
Insert *black people not found in a working environment* joke.
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Originally Posted by Fukalyal
It's used to make steel
I'm rather curious as to some detail. Given that copper is ductile, malleable, and has a lot melting point, what exactly is an 1,800 lb slab of finely-machined copper used for in the steel-making process?
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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
You don't have anyone to liquidate the building prior to wrecking it?
It's pretty sad. There was a drop dead date for bidders to bid and claim, and that's it. What is left wasn't even bid on. There was literally too much material in the building to market in 2 months.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I'm rather curious as to some detail. Given that copper is ductile, malleable, and has a lot melting point, what exactly is an 1,800 lb slab of finely-machined copper used for in the steel-making process?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_casting

The mold see item #5 under "equipment and process"
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Originally Posted by Fukalyal
It's pretty sad. There was a drop dead date for bidders to bid and claim, and that's it. What is left wasn't even bid on. There was literally too much material in the building to market in 2 months.
Damn. That's a shame. Its too bad there isn't a spare lot or storage space of some sort to house the leftovers.

You cant even get a scapper to come take the remains and pay you 50% of its worth in weight?
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