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sixshooter 09-23-2014 12:49 PM

Anybody in San Jose want to kick a dirtbag's ass for me?
 
Some dirtbag in San Jose has bought a bunch of iPhone 6's and Xboxes and PlayStation 4's on eBay with my account. They changed the shipping address to theirs but left my name and phone number on the shipping info. They weren't able to use my PayPal because the password is different but the stolen PayPal accounts of others were used. I got a call from a woman who had her bank account cleaned out who thought I was the bad guy. That was fun.

I spent an hour talking to an Indian woman at eBay security who told me I needed to contact the sellers myself!?!? I did it as a courtesy to the sellers but I thought that was pretty freaking ridiculous.

I talked to PayPal to verify my account had not been accessed. The PayPal ladies said that I was in the minority in having a different password for my paypal account and that lots of people had their accounts compromised that way.

I talked to a woman at the San Jose police department and told her thousands of dollars of stolen property was being delivered there today, tomorrow, and the next day. She said due to budget cuts they no longer had a fraud department and that all of their officers were now out on patrol. But she was nice enough to transfer me to a voicemail box to leave information about this case. She told me that I should contact my local police department here in Florida and tell them about it because they might care more. Never mind the fact that none of this fraud and none of the stolen goods or the bad guys are in Florida.

So do any of you vigilantes in California have an interest in paying a scumbag a visit? The address is a unit in a commercial strip mall on a busy street corner. Maybe you will end up with a Xbox or an iPhone 6 out of the deal, hahaha.

y8s 09-23-2014 01:19 PM

why not call the shippers??

18psi 09-23-2014 01:25 PM

I know a few fine gentlemen that would do this for a fee. Not sure if the fee is worth it for you though.

You'd have to have a name and/or picture of the person though.

I sincerely hope you know what you're getting into though lol.

sixshooter 09-23-2014 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1169638)
why not call the shippers??

I contacted the sellers and told them to recall their packages if at all possible. I went to the tracking numbers I was given in each of the cases but it would not allow me as the "buyer" to change the destinations or send them back.

I went to the local police department where I live and filed a report with all of the details I had. Nothing will likely come of it, but if anyone comes looking for me thinking I'm a baddie then I'll at least have something else on my side.

The lady from eBay called me back just a bit ago and said that the sellers had all been officially notified.

concealer404 09-23-2014 02:12 PM

I find it vaguely amusing that nobody really seems to care, but you...

Not in a "I'm laughing at SixShooter" kind of way, but a "Someone is getting free shit and nobody cares" kind of way.


'MURICA.

kenzo42 09-23-2014 02:55 PM

I understand why'd you be pissed, but at least it was not charged to you.

ofspunk7 09-23-2014 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1169666)
I find it vaguely amusing that nobody really seems to care, but you...

Not in a "I'm laughing at SixShooter" kind of way, but a "Someone is getting free shit and nobody cares" kind of way.


'MURICA.

I am with you on this one. So the scammer learns that you just need to reside in a big city where they don't have time to track you down. Then you can steal and order all the free crap you want.

It's too bad. However, I am glad this post wasn't about your Miata getting taken or something of that manor.

18psi 09-23-2014 03:30 PM

Post the address.

/poker face

Savington 09-23-2014 03:37 PM

Did you try the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Department?

sixshooter 09-23-2014 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1169693)
Did you try the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Department?

I did not. But I will. Thank you for the suggestion.

And while nothing was actually stolen from me, something was stolen from someone by a scumbag who should have to answer for it. "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke

I am somewhat surprised at the lack of interest by the local PD. I thought they genuinely liked catching bad guys on occasion.

18psi 09-23-2014 05:15 PM

Nah, they don't.

They like harrassing people for front license plates and window tint and setting up random street side smog check stations and other idiotic things like that.

Catching bad guys is too much work

sixshooter 09-23-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1169690)
Post the address.

/poker face



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bahurd 09-23-2014 08:32 PM

Maybe a call to the nearest FBI office? As it's a federal crime they may be more interested. Making the 'big score' kind of thing.

Edit: San Jose

1919 S. Bascom Avenue
Suite 400
Campbell, CA 95008
(408) 369-8900

Counties: Monterey, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, and San Benito

MartinezA92 09-23-2014 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1169733)
Nah, they don't.

They like harrassing people for front license plates and window tint and setting up random street side smog check stations and other idiotic things like that.

Catching bad guys is too much work

110%.

Someone has to be down to scope this place.

MartinezA92 09-23-2014 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1169646)
I know a few fine gentlemen that would do this for a fee. Not sure if the fee is worth it for you though.

so tempting. :rofl:

SchmoozerJoe 09-23-2014 09:00 PM

Too far away... else I would.

Good luck with the outcome!

samnavy 09-24-2014 06:30 AM

Call the seller and have them give you the ID's or serials of each unit they sold... then call Apple and tell them. Apple should be able to put a service denial on each unit so that the first time they try and access a network, they're deactivated. At least I think I remember them being able to do that. Turns them into paperweights. Joe Perez will probabaly know about 100 different ways around that shit though.

m2cupcar 09-24-2014 09:44 AM

Not that it would be help, but it would rank high on harassment factor- The media (local tv station) might be interested if you had solid details. They love internet fraud stories.

y8s 09-24-2014 10:15 AM

CrimeReports Map

that's bordering on an unsavory crime area. whoever is going to bust balls is probably going to not want to assume the extra risk.

JasonC SBB 09-24-2014 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1169626)
... San Jose police department .... She said due to budget cuts they no longer had a fraud department and that all of their officers were now out on patrol.

The remaining officers are busy running speed traps, shooting dogs and electric drill wielding women, and beating up people who resist arrest by turtling up.

18psi 09-24-2014 12:31 PM

:laugh:

carbon 09-24-2014 12:48 PM

I did a Judo tournament in San Jose once... bunch of scrubs.

WHERE HE AT YO!?!? WHAT YOU WANT? BROKEN ARM/S? CHOKED OUT?!? BOTH?? YOU NAME IT BRO!!!! (just get me a plane ticket back out there)

miata2fast 09-24-2014 01:29 PM

Damn, looks like a total fiasco. Here's to unplanned medical issues to deserving individuals.

JasonC SBB 09-24-2014 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter
... San Jose police department .... She said due to budget cuts they no longer had a fraud department and that all of their officers were now out on patrol.

I don't understand why cities don't hire private investigation firms to do the menial shit, instead of relying on a monopoly run by government union members.

sixshooter 09-25-2014 07:15 AM

Local PD detective here in Florida advised me to contact the FBI and file a report yesterday, which I did. Still haven't heard shit from San Jose PD.


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As the trail starts to grow colder...

rwyatt365 09-25-2014 07:37 AM

Your tax dollars at work... :jerkit:

nitrodann 09-25-2014 08:48 AM

"I don't understand why cities don't hire private investigation firms to do the menial shit, instead of relying on a monopoly run by government union members."

-Every libertarian ever.

Agreed, btw.

bahurd 09-25-2014 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1170204)
Local PD detective here in Florida advised me to contact the FBI and file a report yesterday, which I did. Still haven't heard shit from San Jose PD.



As the trail starts to grow colder...

Good thing they served up the yada yada above after you submitted the complaint. I wonder which committee wrote that? :jerkit:

OH... and make sure you keep those supporting documents in a safe place.

sixshooter 09-25-2014 09:40 AM

Ooohh! I got an email! It looks like the FBI is all over this!


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18psi 09-25-2014 09:55 AM

they gon break into the thiefs house, disrespect his famiry...

....all because you narkd on them

y8s 09-25-2014 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1170080)
I don't understand why cities don't hire private investigation firms to do the menial shit, instead of relying on a monopoly run by government union members.

I'm sure there's no private conflict of interest like there's no political conflict of interest.

JasonC SBB 09-25-2014 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1170258)
I'm sure there's no private conflict of interest like there's no political conflict of interest.

Hey imagine if a private security company you hired for say, your mall reacted the way SJPD did, you wouldn't accept that. If multiple private investigation agencies competed for business they would do a damn better job than the SJPD.

Imagine if you gave private businesses a pass the way people do gov't agencies: You ask the mama-san for a slender blonde girl, and they send up a hairy leather clad bear, and you say "it's OK, I have no choice, it's a gov't program".

And why do statists say "monopolies bad" but any gov't agency, which is a monopoly, is OK?

KMag 09-26-2014 04:46 PM

Hire these guys from Russia. They can do it for you.


KMag

18psi 09-26-2014 04:49 PM

I hear they upgraded to teletubby costumes now

"YOU SCAMMED THE WRONG TELETUBBY, FOO"

EO2K 10-01-2014 11:38 AM

Humm... I was going to be in San Jose this weekend.

Unfortunately, this chain of events is all too common and criminals know it. Our local law enforcement folks are so unequipped to deal with any kind of fraud that involves a computer, so they just ignore it and pretend like it never happened. Paypal will get money back to the people whom it was stolen from, the vendors already got paid, your account gets reset and the oxygen thieves get some free iPhones and XBones. As it was said before, local PD don't give 2 shits. FBI or Sheriffs Dept on the receiving end is probably your best bet.


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 1169901)
Call the seller and have them give you the ID's or serials of each unit they sold... then call Apple and tell them. Apple should be able to put a service denial on each unit so that the first time they try and access a network, they're deactivated. At least I think I remember them being able to do that. Turns them into paperweights. Joe Perez will probabaly know about 100 different ways around that shit though.

This. Microsoft, Sony and Apple all have mechanisms in place to blacklist devices from their services. Unfortunately you have to convince the seller to start this process because technically its the sellers merchandise that was stolen and you have no control as a 3rd party. They already got paid for their junk and paperwork just costs them time and money, so don't expect them to move quickly on this.

sixshooter 10-01-2014 01:25 PM

Does it matter if the iPhonie 6 Plus is jailbroken, because at least one of the descriptions I bothered to read said it was.

What is so sad is that we, as a people, have relinquished our rights to many forms of online privacy in the name of allowing the Feds to hunt down criminals and yet they don't really expend any effort doing that.

A colleague of my wife has been traveling extensively in the past few weeks for business. He was detained by the TSA at the beginning of this week because he was flagged for extensive recent air travel. He was brought to a room and interviewed. They asked him about the purpose of recent travels. They asked him which hotels he used in each place and what credit card he used. Without asking him to disclose his credit card number, consent to a search, or obtaining a warrant they were able to pull up his card numbers and complete purchase history to determine he did, in fact, stay where he had claimed on every occasion.

I'll spare you the eulogy for the 4th Amendment and just say that if they are going to have that much private personal information at their fingertips, at least expend the energy to catch a couple of bag guys every once in a while instead of meddling with frequent flyer business executives.

pdexta 10-01-2014 01:39 PM

I take it you never heard anything else about it?

Since no LEO's wanted to do their job. You should have bought a plane ticket, rented a car, drove to the address, and waited for the UPS guy. When he arrives it'd be easy enough to jump out and say, "Yeah, I'm Steve, I can sign for the deliveries, thanks." And then bring your free stuff back home.

sixshooter 10-01-2014 03:25 PM

That would be the one time the FBII guys would show up.


Besides, it would really look like I actually set the whole thing up to defraud people which is no bueno.

pdexta 10-01-2014 03:41 PM

Lol, yeah I guess that would be tough to explain if anyone did show up.

y8s 10-02-2014 10:29 AM

I find myself in an ironic position in that I am now currently about 20 minutes from the location in San Jose and with access to various and sundry handheld ballistic lead expulsion devices.

However I am not in a position to help out because I am not a vigilante and have other priorities here--as you may have seen in the pictures thread.

Incidentally, I handed over some privacy to TSA and gave them money so I could be part of their known traveler program. Because my time is often more valuable than my privacy, I decided this was a fair exchange. This week in particular it was quite relieving to spend less than 5 minutes from the time I walked in the airport doors to the time I was standing at my gate.

Braineack 10-02-2014 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1172340)
Incidentally, I handed over some privacy to TSA and gave them money so I could be part of their known traveler program. Because my time is often more valuable than my privacy, I decided this was a fair exchange. This week in particular it was quite relieving to spend less than 5 minutes from the time I walked in the airport doors to the time I was standing at my gate.


If I was a terrorist, or had something to hide, this would be the only way I'd travel as well.

fooger03 10-02-2014 11:11 AM

Wouldn't it be far easier to mail an auto-destructive package to the address? Less personal risk involved I would think.

Braineack 10-02-2014 11:24 AM

Personal risk is key to getting 72 virgins.


thenuge26 10-02-2014 11:24 AM

Which would be great unless it gets there on the day the douchebag's daughter gets the mail.

sixshooter 10-02-2014 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1172358)
Which would be great unless it gets there on the day the douchebag's daughter gets the mail.

Well, something less felonious like asking each of you to take a dump in a box and mail it to him could be fulfilling in its own special way. Return addresses with names like "Electronics Depot" or "Order Fulfillment Center" could be a nice touch.

fooger03 10-02-2014 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1172358)
Which would be great unless it gets there on the day the douchebag's daughter gets the mail.

It seems to me that the douchebag's daughter getting the package could have much farther reaching implications than if the douchebag himself got the package. There's much more emotion tied to the idea that a thief could cause a loved one harm. If it's just him that gets it, it will be simple vengeance. If it's his daughter, then mail frauds nationwide might be somewhat deterred:

ABC News at 6
Reporter: A little girl suffered severe trauma and is in critical condition tonight because she opened a mail bomb addressed to her father. ABC was able to get this *exclusive* interview from her mother tonight.

Mother (in "hell hath no fury" mode): I told Jerry to quit buying iPhones with other peoples credit cards - he's been stealing that stuff for years, and I told him it was going to come back and haunt him! Not look, my daughter's in the hospital, and the police have taken his ass to jail!

Reporter:Officers say a suspicious package with no return address was delivered to this front door, the same front door that had been receiving packages daily for at least two weeks. When officers entered the house, they found boxes stacked to the ceiling with new iPhones, XBoxes, and Playstations. High ticket items that could fetch cash premiums. The husband, Jerry, is now facing charges of fraud and identity theft. The origin of the suspicious package is still under investigation.

I do not condone violence of any kind except that which is reasonable to protect or defend life. I also do not condone vigilante-ism. Pro-tip: after you call the FBI with the address, call San Jose's ABC affiliate.



Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1172428)
Well, something less felonious like asking each of you to take a dump in a box and mail it to him could be fulfilling in its own special way. Return addresses with names like "Electronics Depot" or "Order Fulfillment Center" could be a nice touch.

This is genious - make sure to put it in a sealed bag, and glue the outside of the bag to the inside of the box so that when the box is opened, the bag is also ripped open.

Alternatively, if you don't feel like pooping in a box, dump a protein shake or two in the sealed bag. Wait 2-3 days before sending it. Once it arrives at the perps address, it will be the foulest smelling thing this side of a medium sized seemingly isolated villiage in Liberia.

Put your empty iPhone 6 box inside the big sealed bag too, filled with a few rocks for weight, and sealed in it's own plastic bag, that way if the bag doesn't open when he opens the box, he still has to get through the deathly smell to get to your empty box.

EO2K 10-02-2014 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 1172431)
Pro-tip: after you call the FBI with the address, call San Jose's ABC affiliate.

Oo, I like this! Fooger gets it :bigtu:



Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 1172431)
This is genious - make sure to put it in a sealed bag, and glue the outside of the bag to the inside of the box so that when the box is opened, the bag is also ripped open.

Alternatively, if you don't feel like pooping in a box, dump a protein shake or two in the sealed bag. Wait 2-3 days before sending it. Once it arrives at the perps address, it will be the foulest smelling thing this side of a medium sized seemingly isolated villiage in Liberia.

Put your empty iPhone 6 box inside the big sealed bag too, filled with a few rocks for weight, and sealed in it's own plastic bag, that way if the bag doesn't open when he opens the box, he still has to get through the deathly smell to get to your empty box.

:bowrofl:

miata2fast 10-02-2014 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 1172431)

This is genious - make sure to put it in a sealed bag, and glue the outside of the bag to the inside of the box so that when the box is opened, the bag is also ripped open.

Alternatively, if you don't feel like pooping in a box, dump a protein shake or two in the sealed bag. Wait 2-3 days before sending it. Once it arrives at the perps address, it will be the foulest smelling thing this side of a medium sized seemingly isolated villiage in Liberia.

Put your empty iPhone 6 box inside the big sealed bag too, filled with a few rocks for weight, and sealed in it's own plastic bag, that way if the bag doesn't open when he opens the box, he still has to get through the deathly smell to get to your empty box.

Put in a little note that says, Welcome to Ebola!

That will get his head spinning.

Monk 10-02-2014 06:33 PM

I am willing donate feces to this project.

EO2K 10-02-2014 06:36 PM

I hope they are actually at the address where these packages are being delivered, rather than stealing the mail as it shows up.


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