Anyone in the Air Force?
Just curious if anyone is currently or used to be in the Air Force. If so, how was it or how did you like it? I always wanted to join, but never got around to it, and thought I could get a good career going as a civilian. Seeing as I have been to college twice, and no degree from either, and I am stuck in a dead end job, and the economy is shit... I thought maybe it would be a good idea to look into it. Plus my grandfather was Air Force and I always looked up to him and wanted to maybe experience some of the stuff he did.
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I'm not in the Air Force myself, but I think it's a good life (compared to the Army), the posts, barracks, chow halls, etc. are nicer, the PT is less severe, etc. The drawback is that promotion is slower and they're usually not hurting for people.
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I'm going to be soon. I leave for basic training in a month. I was in AFROTC for a couple semesters before deciding college wasn't my thing right now. My dad was in for 20 years, my grandfather for 4. Both had some pretty awesome experiences and wouldn't trade their time in for anything. There are a lot of awesome benefits, nevermind the things and places you will get to see while you're in. There are a decent number of AF folks on the board.
If you're planning on going in, make sure to avoid any traffic tickets, offenses, etc...I had some issues (aka 3 month wait) getting waivers for mine. |
The only thing that worries me is the fact that they aren't hurting for people like you said, and I only have a GED. Though I think I have 15 semester hours of college credit and can easily pass their ASVAB. So even if there is a spot open, I would probably end up waiting a year or more possibly. I guess I can always go talk to a recruiter. I have a clean record, so no issues there. Leaving high school at 16 was a mistake. I went straight to college with intent of getting a head start, and ended up screwing off and leaving college 6 months to a year before I would have gotten my degree. It was mostly an issue with not liking the school or people who ran it.
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Yup, talk to a recruiter, take the ASVAB, that's what you're going to have to do to get the ball rolling so you might as well go ahead and do it.
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Is the ASVAB a test they can give me there, or will I have to set up a test date and go to a test site. That would suck balls.
I took a practice ASVAB exam online and scored 83%, only need 65% to pass. No problem there I hope. |
Every recruiting station I've ever been to had a little testing room.
Passing the thing is one thing, but the higher you score the better pick of MOSs you get. |
Well I would say mid 80's is decent, if I can replicate. Plus I did all of the math in my head and rushed. Surely they give you scratch paper to write on with some of those larger number math problems. So I bet I can score much higher, at least upper 80's if its anything like the practice exam.
I also wonder if they can give you an ETA on your wait. I don't want to be expecting say 8 months, and plan my life around that time, then it really end up being 12-16 months. |
I was in the Air Force in the late 80's Early 90's. At the time for me it was the right decision
The only advise I can give you is before you sign on the dotted line Be Sure TO GET YOUR TRAINING OF CHOICE ON YOUR CONTRACT. I didnt ( conned by recruiter that they would give it to me in basic). I ended up doing corrosion control ( painting planes ) & sheet metal ( repairing bird strikes). not bad work but not as lucrative on the outside like a Jet engine mechanic. Also while you are in go back to school, I got my AA & they paid for it 100%. Good Luck |
I was in until 1988. Last stationed at 31'st Tactical Fighter Wing at Homestead AFB in FL. Went in right after highschool. It was great and the military experience landed my job that I'm at now. I prefer veterans for new hires.
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Recruiters lie.
All Air Force bases have golf courses. You will make more of a bonus going in if you score high on the ASVAB in a useful category. You will also be eligible for the good MOSs if you score high on the ASVAB. You will make more money and faster rank in the Army if you qualify for a good specialty. My brother got $38,000 worth of student loans covered and got a $12k signing bonus a year and a half ago when he joined the Army. He is a computer wiz and worked for IBM for a little while. Now he diagnoses and repairs satellite communications equipment. He's got new marketable skills now. He's already up for promotion. If you are afraid of guns, join the Air Force. They don't use them in "rear areas" where the Air Force guys are.:) |
Most bonus's military-wide went away about 4 months ago... economy and all. You can imagine with the number of people out of work, there is no shortage of applicants... and no shortage of overqualified never-would-have-considered-the-military-before-but-can't-get-a-job-anywhere-else type of applicants.
And when somebody says "I want to join the military"... that's kinda like saying "I want to work at Sea World", and all they can imagine is swimming with Shamu, but end up sweeping bathrooms. Do you have any skillsets or any idea what you might want to do in the Air Force. |
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 423923)
Well I would say mid 80's is decent, if I can replicate. Plus I did all of the math in my head and rushed. Surely they give you scratch paper to write on with some of those larger number math problems. So I bet I can score much higher, at least upper 80's if its anything like the practice exam.
I also wonder if they can give you an ETA on your wait. I don't want to be expecting say 8 months, and plan my life around that time, then it really end up being 12-16 months. Have any idea what you want to do yet? That site I linked above has all the ASFCs listed with their descriptions (cryptic as they may be). |
Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 423964)
Most bonus's military-wide went away about 4 months ago... economy and all. You can imagine with the number of people out of work, there is no shortage of applicants... and no shortage of overqualified never-would-have-considered-the-military-before-but-can't-get-a-job-anywhere-else type of applicants.
And when somebody says "I want to join the military"... that's kinda like saying "I want to work at Sea World", and all they can imagine is swimming with Shamu, but end up sweeping bathrooms. Do you have any skillsets or any idea what you might want to do in the Air Force. Went to the damn recruiting center, 20 minutes away and sat in the parking lot for over an hour an no one was there. Sign said back at 9, and it was 10-11. Waited as long as my Miata would let me before the a/c started falling behind and the HLA started chattering, then I left. Typical. I guess you have to schedule. |
Recruiters suck, but it's a crappy job. It's worth finding a good one. I was ready to join Marines summer of '01, and found a nice devoted guy. Scored 95+ on ASVAB and had my pick of jobs, which in the marines means if you don't want to carry a rifle or cook, you're pretty much IT or intelligence.
I passed physical and all, but when I went to Amarillo to do MEPS they saw the X-rays from knee surgery and said I should try the AF. If I could go back I would have, but instead my friends came back in town (Lubbock) for school, and I started partying again. 9/11 happened the next month, and I've never regretted not joining more. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 423957)
You will make more of a bonus going in if you score high on the ASVAB in a useful category.
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 423957)
You will also be eligible for the good MOSs if you score high on the ASVAB.
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 423957)
If you are afraid of guns, join the Air Force. They don't use them in "rear areas" where the Air Force guys are.:)
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 423918)
I took a practice ASVAB exam online and scored 83%, only need 65% to pass. No problem there I hope.
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 423824)
I only have a GED.
Originally Posted by gospeed81
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Recruiters suck, but it's a crappy job.
And Yes, Recruiters have quotas and recruiting goals the have to meet. However, Recruiters are under orders not to lie. Though this does not prevent them from offering (or leaving out) pieces of information, allowing you to make an incorrect assumption. - If a Recruiter offers you information or a course of action, ask to see it in writing. And don't forget to read the contract before signing. If it is not on the contract, it does not exist. - L (As a retired Service-member I strongly believe that serving the Nation is a worthwhile endeavor, whether it be for a single hitch or a life-long career. Regardless, the decision should not be taken lightly and therefore demands research and an informed decision. - If you choose to follow the path of Military Service, you will be challenged, you will be trained, you will form enduring friendships and you will experience aspects of life and this world few will ever see.) |
I've been in for about 3 years now, not a bad job (although that just depends on your job and location)
All I can say is, if you decide for sure to get in, talk to someone about it first and decide what job you want. Then make sure you're guarenteed that job in writing before you go in. Some jobs sound great until you get in and it ends up being some shitty job that the idiots get. |
Originally Posted by greenday3437
(Post 424116)
Some jobs sound great until you get in and it ends up being some shitty job that the idiots get.
"No shit," I thought. I would believe the recruiter's sales pitches just like the one for Kinoki Foot Pads (they remove harmful toxins, don't you know). |
I'm pretty discouraged about all of this. I already had very low hopes of being approved because of my GED, but now that I think about how there are so many unemployed people right now who surely look better on paper than me, I'm not even sure its worth my time and the hassle to even talk to a recruiter. Thats the story of my life anyway. Something stupid I decided years ago comes back to bite me in the ass. This is like the 3rd important thing that my GED has fucked me up on. So I'm going to do the pussy thing and not even set myself up for disapointment and just forget the whole thing before I give myself a chance to think about it any more. Thanks for all of the input anyway guys. I guess I will stick with the civilian life and keep on slowly getting my computer certifications out of the way and go that route. I have a lot of sick people in my family anyway that will probably kick the bucket over the next 2 or 3 years that I would like to spend time with while they are still here.
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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 424131)
I'm pretty discouraged about all of this. I already had very low hopes of being approved because of my GED, but now that I think about how there are so many unemployed people right now who surely look better on paper than me, I'm not even sure its worth my time and the hassle to even talk to a recruiter. Thats the story of my life anyway. Something stupid I decided years ago comes back to bite me in the ass. This is like the 3rd important thing that my GED has fucked me up on. So I'm going to do the pussy thing and not even set myself up for disapointment and just forget the whole thing before I give myself a chance to think about it any more. Thanks for all of the input anyway guys. I guess I will stick with the civilian life and keep on slowly getting my computer certifications out of the way and go that route. I have a lot of sick people in my family anyway that will probably kick the bucket over the next 2 or 3 years that I would like to spend time with while they are still here.
But like I said, if you DO decide to go through with it, dont get suckered into some horrible job just because your recruiter said so, or you will end up hating life. |
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