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Anyone else here banned from m.net?
Apparently the mods were offended by my contention that rspeed sells to ricers and jdm fanboys and that they aren't a serious performance company. I don't see what is so controversial about this- anyone can discover this from looking at their website for 3 minutes.
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The first day I signed up I replied to a post about how much nick holgan sucks balls and how fugle brooke is, had some colorful language. They asked me not to use that language and that was all. I dont post there much.
It seems to be well know that m.net has a special relationship with their venders. |
Buncha vagines
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I am only going to say that the thread in question went downhill, and quick.
That Rspeed guy probably wants to kill you now :giggle: |
I don't know if I am banned or not...I stopped going over there - too much fun here!
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I've been threatened on numerous occasions, but gave up the fight when I realized I was arguing with people my grandpas age. Took the fun out of it..
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went through the thread...you weren't attacking anyone. You were stating that the guy's place is for lookers and not performance...which you were right. And then you were asking questions about the coilovers, which he had no information on. All the performance places have that information and demand it before selling it to the public.
Btw, the Miata crowd is so much more technical when it comes to suspension than the 240sx crowd. When it comes to engines, both are the same, but I think the 240sx crowd has more of an edge. But seriously, the suspension aspect, jesus. Never seen so much information in my life about what a 1lb increment of weight on a tire would do to the geometry of the car's front/rear weight biases. And I'm saying this in a good thing. I wish the 240sx crowd would get more technical when it comes to it. |
I posted a satanic prayer in my sig a few years ago...they didn't care for that much.
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Originally Posted by BarrigaNA
(Post 374374)
went through the thread...you weren't attacking anyone. You were stating that the guy's place is for lookers and not performance...which you were right. And then you were asking questions about the coilovers, which he had no information on. All the performance places have that information and demand it before selling it to the public.
Btw, the Miata crowd is so much more technical when it comes to suspension than the 240sx crowd. When it comes to engines, both are the same, but I think the 240sx crowd has more of an edge. But seriously, the suspension aspect, jesus. Never seen so much information in my life about what a 1lb increment of weight on a tire would do to the geometry of the car's front/rear weight biases. And I'm saying this in a good thing. I wish the 240sx crowd would get more technical when it comes to it. It seems that a lot of the suspension and handling forum is full of guys who fap to drifting and jdm parts and are generally ignorant of cars. From that thread, I recognize: * Foo Schnickens is a [deep-pocketed] ricer whose life purpose is to spread misinformation about IRTBs. Any thread that questions the wisdom of spending 3000 bucks to make 20whp over stock- he will attack that thread with a religious fervor unseen since someone informed vwvortex that stretched tires on 12 inch rims looked kinda retarded. His car is slow as shit and he knows nothing about engine modding, but he'll never concede a point even if all the other guys who own IRTB equipped cars come into the thread and tell him to STFU. * Randy (phatmiata) is a notorious dickweed who runs a roadster forum which is full of ricers and JDM/Dorifito crap. He has talked and talked for nearly a decade about performance and his plans to go turbo, but he still has a 90 percent stock drivetrain. He's spent probably 10-20k on carbon fiber interior parts and useless JDM non-performance mods. To me, he is the typical Tein owner- a dorifto obsessed wallet mechanic who knows nothing about cars beyond what he reads in the ricer magazines and advertisements. His car drives like shit but you'll never get him to shut up about his pillowball mounts or his 2000 dollar jdm racing seats. |
I actually believed that Foo was an official representative for Rspeed. Turns out he is just some nutswinger who slavishly defends them.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 374402)
I posted a satanic prayer in my sig a few years ago...they didn't care for that much.
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I was banned.
Turns out its not good to tell people over there to use common sense, apparently its an insult. Like telling retarded people to not be retarded. |
Originally Posted by JimAtFSU
(Post 374447)
Ok, that's what I thought was going on. For a second I thought I was being unreasonable, but I never got that kind of runaround from FM, emilio or FCM on technical data. Bunch of three year olds in that thread.
It seems that a lot of the suspension and handling forum is full of guys who fap to drifting and jdm parts and are generally ignorant of cars. From that thread, I recognize: * Foo Schnickens is a [deep-pocketed] ricer whose life purpose is to spread misinformation about IRTBs. Any thread that questions the wisdom of spending 3000 bucks to make 20whp over stock- he will attack that thread with a religious fervor unseen since someone informed vwvortex that stretched tires on 12 inch rims looked kinda retarded. His car is slow as shit and he knows nothing about engine modding, but he'll never concede a point even if all the other guys who own IRTB equipped cars come into the thread and tell him to STFU. * Randy (phatmiata) is a notorious dickweed who runs a roadster forum which is full of ricers and JDM/Dorifito crap. He has talked and talked for nearly a decade about performance and his plans to go turbo, but he still has a 90 percent stock drivetrain. He's spent probably 10-20k on carbon fiber interior parts and useless JDM non-performance mods. To me, he is the typical Tein owner- a dorifto obsessed wallet mechanic who knows nothing about cars beyond what he reads in the ricer magazines and advertisements. His car drives like shit but you'll never get him to shut up about his pillowball mounts or his 2000 dollar jdm racing seats. Don't get me wrong, back in the day I got the D2's and they weren't bad. Nothing like my buddy's Tanabe's (which were amazing) but they did there intended purpose. The Ksport ones are similar to D2's but the support for them is huge. Hell they have a place in Az with a shock dyno where you can get custom made valve adjustments and springs. All in all, it was dumb of that guy to get all huffy when questions are asked and to be called out on his intended market. Sorry but he has replacement parts and "upgrades" of the basic nature. Definately not a performance shop. I'll take my Bilstein's any day. |
Jim, send Gary an email and try to explain yourself a little if you want. He's open to a civil discussion. I brought the issue up with him.
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Honestly I don't trust rspeed to ask the right questions of their suppliers. Even with the best intentions on their part, there are a ton of potential agency problems here due to their apparent lack of expertise in this area. They could be getting an awesome deal or they could be getting the next big snake oil.
I've been around this scene (and m.net) for too long to not recognize this pattern. It goes like this: 1) new part comes out from a vendor. It looks good on paper and costs cheaper than it should. 2) some people ask rude questions, get banned or yelled at by fanboys. 3) People start ordering and using product. 4) some customers begin reporting problems, are yelled at for installing product incorrectly or having ulterior motives, Product is perfect and a great deal. Fuck you for disagreeing. 5) manufacturer releases solution to problem, suddenly problem existed all along and is really serious The other pattern is that various engineer types find a problem that is holding back hp potential (stock ignition, fuel rail or oil pump all qualify) and all the fanboys flip out and chase them off the boards. Then shiv or jason come back with more proof and still get chased off. Then finally FM agrees with them and suddenly it was obvious all along that this problem existed. |
Wait, is gary not the rspeed rep?
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Originally Posted by JimAtFSU
(Post 374453)
I actually believed that Foo was an official representative for Rspeed. Turns out he is just some nutswinger who slavishly defends them.
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whattayaknough, another queer with ITBs acting like a ------. lol
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 374501)
Jim, send Gary an email and try to explain yourself a little if you want. He's open to a civil discussion. I brought the issue up with him.
Anyway, it's not my fault they didn't do their homework and set themselves up to be embarrassed by the first customer that came along with an obvious question. Actually knowing what you're doing is what justifies people buying products from a company- if you have less expertise than your customers, they might as well save money and just buy directly from your pool of suppliers. |
what is that website number?
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M.net is the same old same old year after year after year.
The only time I go there is if someone here links a thread. I don't have anything against Gary nor his site. But half the fools over there are so clueless and boring I just have no reason to visit. R-speed is by far the absolute WORST miata specific vendor I have dealt with over the years. The last order I placed with them about a year ago got fucked up pretty bad. Service was non-existent and shipping time was a joke. I had good experience with them before, long ago. But the last order I placed was just that, the last order I placed. |
I'm banned there. I (gasp) cursed!
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Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 374613)
what is that website number?
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Originally Posted by JimAtFSU
(Post 374607)
What really needs to be explained? Isn't it obvious from that thread that I was asking non-asshole questions about the product? If you're selling a coilover package that costs over 1200 bucks, you have to expect people are going to ask questions like "who makes them," "where do I send them for rebuild" and "can I have shock dynos for the product or maybe even for the individual shocks?" These is just ordinary details that anyone would expect them to provide as a routine matter.
Anyway, it's not my fault they didn't do their homework and set themselves up to be embarrassed by the first customer that came along with an obvious question. Actually knowing what you're doing is what justifies people buying products from a company- if you have less expertise than your customers, they might as well save money and just buy directly from your pool of suppliers. Apologize for ignoring his warning PM, too, and he'll probably lift the ban. Pisses me off good, BTW. This is the kind of shit that gives m.net their sponsor-protection reputation. Fuck Rspeed, as well, I'm never buying a damn thing from them. This isn't the first time Fooshithead has made a public dick of himself wearing an Rspeed badge. |
He doesn't publish his email and I can't send PMs since I'm banned.
This is basically horseshit. If they are going to pounce all over any person who asks an inconvenient question of a sponsor, they can stuff their website up their asses. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 374501)
Jim, send Gary an email and try to explain yourself a little if you want. He's open to a civil discussion. I brought the issue up with him.
Traitor. |
Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 374774)
Whats gary's cum taste like?
Traitor. Sav is trying to make things right for a fellow member and you gotta open your upper asshole and let your shit fly out again. Your lucky this forum is not under Philip's communist regime anymore. |
Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 374774)
Whats gary's cum taste like?
Traitor. I always told myself i'd never use this because groveling is demeaning, but here I go :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: |
m.net pisses me off.
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Originally Posted by JimAtFSU
(Post 374714)
He doesn't publish his email and I can't send PMs since I'm banned.
This is basically horseshit. If they are going to pounce all over any person who asks an inconvenient question of a sponsor, they can stuff their website up their asses. |
Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 374774)
Whats gary's cum taste like?
Traitor. |
So it seems R Speed is suspending the sale of their coilover until they can get more info on it.
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I sent this.
I feel my ban was unfair. This is in relation to the thread in the suspension mods forum where we discussed rspeed's coilovers. I don't feel I was out of line and people pounced all over me like I was just shitting on rspeed for no reason. Read the thread. Isn't it obvious that I was asking non-asshole questions about the product? If you're selling a coilover package that costs over 1200 bucks, you have to expect people are going to ask questions like "who makes them," "where do I send them for rebuild" and "can I have shock dynos for the product or maybe even for the individual shocks?" These are just ordinary details that anyone selling such shocks would be expected to provide as a routine matter. Anyway, it's not my fault Rspeed didn't do their homework and set themselves up to be embarrassed by the first customer that came along with a bunch of obvious questions. Actually knowing what you're doing is what justifies people buying products from a company- if you have less expertise than your customers, they might as well save money by buying directly from your pool of suppliers. It makes you guys look bad to cover for sponsors when they fuck up. It also encourages the sponsors to get sloppy and rely upon your protection instead of actually putting in the proper effort to serve their customers. Asking about QC, about dynos and about who actually makes the coilovers are REALLY basic questions they should have asked Fortune in the first place, long before they committed to a relationship with them. I questioned Rspeed's reputation as a speed shop only because their reps decided to hide behind it instead of making the minor admission that they didn't have any data for the shocks they were selling. The truth is that rspeed sells maintenance parts and very minor upgrades. They don't engage in motorsports and they don't have the ability to evaluate performance parts in any meaningful way. This is almost certainly why they failed to ask the right questions of their coilover supplier. Again, they set themselves up for this easily avoided embarrassment. I shouldn't be punished for pointing out that the emperor's privates are dangling in plain view. |
jim, I hope it works out for you.
I am still allowed to post there, but I have had some serious disputes though. its a tough place to deal with if you arent a sheep. |
Oh yeah, he unbanned me after a hilarious email conversation.
I basically got him 90 percent of the way towards admitting that he censors criticism of the sponsors. He insists that he has no policy of censorship, but when I actually got into the mechanics of how he moderates the forums and how he became involved in my thread, he became very annoyed and refused to continue the conversation. I basically pointed out that: -he freely admits to having a bannable offense of "sponsor bashing" -he somehow didn't notice that all the people claiming I was bashing rspeed were either rspeed employees or had business ties with rspeed (they advertise on the clubroadster site for example and randy has a ton of their jdm body kit stuff) -he admitted that I wasn't actually bashing rspeed and I had made legitimate points about their coilovers and their website And concluded that either he -a saw all this and banned me anyway because rspeed asked him to -didn't bother reading the thread and banned me because rspeed asked him Basically he doesn't have an "official policy of censorship"- he just happens to moderate the forums in such a way that anyone who comes into conflict with a sponsor will end up banned most of the time. |
nevermind
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Im not yet, but feel Im about to be. Im finding it hard to not snap on the stupid noob posts. One thread just got closed about some guy wanting to get a big japanese rising sun flag to put on his hood to offend veterans and other people who might be offended by the flag. Now some other noob just posted a new thread like 6 threads up from the closed one asking about should he put a rising sun flag on his trunk. WTF! Jesus. I may ask some stupid shit from time to time, but goddamn, some of this stuff that goes on over there is just amazing. 95% of the stuff there is useless noob questions that are asked weekly. Trying to search for useful stuff over there is tough, so its no wonder the noobs repeat threads.
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I was warned and had a post deleted when I told one of those coffin dodgers to get the sand out of his vagina :giggle:.
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Originally Posted by speedf50
(Post 376049)
I was warned and had a post deleted when I told one of those coffin dodgers
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Originally Posted by JimAtFSU
(Post 374447)
* Randy (phatmiata) is a notorious dickweed who runs a roadster forum which is full of ricers and JDM/Dorifito crap. He has talked and talked for nearly a decade about performance and his plans to go turbo, but he still has a 90 percent stock drivetrain. He's spent probably 10-20k on carbon fiber interior parts and useless JDM non-performance mods. To me, he is the typical Tein owner- a dorifto obsessed wallet mechanic who knows nothing about cars beyond what he reads in the ricer magazines and advertisements. His car drives like shit but you'll never get him to shut up about his pillowball mounts or his 2000 dollar jdm racing seats.
Further more man, HE DOESN'T HAVE TEINS, SO HE CANT POSSIBLY TALK ABOUT HIS PILLOWBALL MOUNTS. He has Tanabes. So your an idiot. He used to drive his Miatas like a madman, heavy into autox and so on. He just doesn't do it anymore. Yeah, I said Miatas, that is plural. He has owned them since he left the Navy, and has been in the Miata scene for a long time. probably since you were still in junior high. As far as the turbo, yeah, we give him grief on the local forum as well. I just isnt a priority for him anymore like it used to be. Get a life. If clubroadster isn't your scene dont fucking go over there, and don't fucking bash people you don't know. |
Maybe I am confusing him with someone else, but I am pretty sure I am remembering this correctly.
He had teins when I met him at a meet north of the tampa area. And I distinctly remember him talking about the pillowball mounts. He even gave a bunch of people a ride in his car to show them off. I have ridden in and driven a lot of miatas so it's possible I remember him but I am associating him with the wrong white NA that had a bunch of carbon fiber crap on the inside. It's entirely possible that he has moved on to a different appearance in the intervening years. I remember coming away with the impression that he talked a really enthusiastic game about car modding, but he never did anything other than appearance mods. He definitely had the money to put a turbo on the car and none of his other reasons for holding off on doing it made any sense. |
Plus, it isn't like randy hasn't posted reams of personal opinions all over the internet for anyone to read.
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I could drag this on but I'm gonna resist trolling randy and his friends.
I apologize for insulting you guys. I was mostly annoyed at Randy for coming into that thread and saying I was a teenager whose parents bought all his parts for him. Besides being untrue that struck me as profoundly ironic coming from someone with Randy's background. |
To quote Roger Clemons, "You are misremembering." Randy has never had Teins, ever. He has always run Tanabes. Second, he doesn't give rides to anyone past or present. Never has, never will. You can sit in the car, but that is about it. Third, there are so many white Miatas in our local group it isn't funny. That is the top color next to red and black. More than likely, you are referring to another person's car which brings me to my last point. You need to make for certain that you know who it is before you talk smack about them in a public forum.
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Originally Posted by 96rdstr
(Post 376252)
To quote Roger Clemons, "You are misremembering." Randy has never had Teins, ever. He has always run Tanabes. Second, he doesn't give rides to anyone past or present. Never has, never will. You can sit in the car, but that is about it. Third, there are so many white Miatas in our local group it isn't funny. That is the top color next to red and black. More than likely, you are referring to another person's car which brings me to my last point. You need to make for certain that you know who it is before you talk smack about them in a public forum.
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Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 376268)
I think somebody has a man-crush on Randy. You sure know a lot about him and his ways.
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Why are we having a debate about some bunch of ricers from tampa bay?
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If you think we are ricers, you can bring your sometimes running Miata to Bradenton dragway and prove it.....
I have quite a few horses under my hood. And if I can't get it done, Qkmx5 has somewhere north of 600hp at this point..... Heck, make it a Miata throwdown weekend. Our club will race anyone, anywhere (except public streets). We'll even buy you dinner after you lose (seriously). We have autocrossers, Spec Miatas, V8 conversions. That has always been the case with our club. And if you think Phat's engine bay is stock, race him. He may not be turbo, but he is def not stock. Phat is a cool dude, would give you the shirt of his back if you needed. That is why 96rdstr spoke up. Yes Phat does defend the companies he uses, but that is just like anyone that has a company that they like. He knows that shop personally. And of course he would take any diss to them personal. I do understand the point about the Fortunes. I was thinking the same thing about the maker and shock dyno plots. But R-speed in the last I would say 3 years has kinda left what I would call the hardcore tuner market. I don't blame them, why battle against BEGI, FM and Fatcat, they are really good at what they do. It's is just too hard to make the customers happy. The dyno plots will only matter to a small few. The Fortunes will find a niche just like Megans, Tein, JIC, and all the other adj coilovers out there. |
Bradenton is probably the closest drag strip to here, but that isn't really saying much. There's pretty much no 1/4 mile strips for about 10 hours worth of driving from here. It's frustrating. I've pretty much given up any hope of ever getting to a drag strip unless I move.
Randy didn't come in there to defend the company, he came in there to insult me. Randy didn't say a single thing about the company or the product. And like pretty much every non-ricer who read that thread, you're agreeing with what I said. Fuck Randy, fuck his attitude and fuck his 700 dollar JDM taillights. He is a ricer. In principle, it's no different from all the high school kids with wings and fart cans. He just has a high enough budget that it doesn't end up looking like an embarrassing pile of shit. I never thought you were a ricer since you actually put together your own turbo setup. But the fact that you exist and hang out with Randy doesn't really change what randy said or how Randy has chosen to mod his car. |
Well, I have always been a believer that competition can resolve any disputes. Where I grew up, if you had a disagreement, you fought, there was a 'win, lose or draw' and that was the end of it. So how about this, you and Phat pick a date in the future, whatever date you can agree on. Then meet and compete on a track. Whatever you guys could agree on. Maybe one date for 1/4 mile and one date for autocross. Then Phat can prove he is not a ricer, or you could prove that he is. Doesn't Orlando have a 1/4 track. We could make a All Miata Florida meet of it. I think it would be good because Phat is a 'Cane and you are a 'Nole. I think Elimnator 77 is in this state also so maybe we could get some of the heavy hitters to come out.
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Eliminator77 lives in New York.
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I'm not interested in drag racing you guys or hanging out with you. No one cares what you have to prove about yourselves or randy.
Just declare victory and fuck off back to whatever forum you tampa bay guys hang out on. You get to feel good about yourselves and we get to forget you existed. Everyone comes out ahead. |
You are really a funny guy. Someone hands you the olive branch, and you still don't 'get it'.
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Are you by chance Jim Worsnoop, AKA Beerslurpy?
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No, I've never seen that username.
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Really?
There is some resemblance here. See below. 10-21-2007, 01:58 AM #7 beerslurpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 312 Feedback: 0 / 0% Respect is earned. And yeah, the other board annoys me in more ways than I can count. I also thought that this troll fucked off. If he fucked off, why is he still here making stupid posts? __________________ Built engine, 99 head 18 psi daily driven T3/T04E 50 trim all the supporting mods Really, I am pretty sure this is you. ^^^^^ Your car was a 1997 STO, maybe still is. Your tone is the same. The signature is even the 99% the same. You lived in Palm harbor and Spring Hill, moved to Tallahassee go to law school around 2006. That would explain why you would meet up with a bunch of peeps in N.Tampa. Funny thing is you also ordered and installed AWD gauge faces for your instrument cluster. You know the gauge faces from Japan? Man, that sounds like rice to me, and where did you get those? Rspeed perhaps, are you 100% positive you never bought anything from them in the past as stated in the miata.net thread? There were only a couple of places that you could get AWD gauges in 2004. Also, you were also waiting on a certain John Kalmar from Axis Racing to carbon you up? You mean carbon fiber, like rice type carbon fiber? It sounds like you were/are into rice as well. Sound familiar? I could bring up the local post to refresh your memory if you need help. Is there anything else you want to be two faced about? |
So basically you guys have given up on defending what phatmiata said on m.net and you're just trying to find out who I am so you can personally attack me?
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Originally Posted by JimAtFSU
(Post 376717)
So basically you guys have given up on defending what phatmiata said on m.net and you're just trying to find out who I am so you can personally attack me?
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Dun dun dun......
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