Anyone else want to try to convince me that Palin is better than Obama?
10-10-2008, 01:14 AM
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Furthermore have you seen Palin's preacher??? He asked for protection for her from WITCHES!!!! And if you think yeah yeah she's just the VP it's not important consider that McCain picked her. He wants to appeal to these wackjobs. And he's entrusting an idiotic wackjob in a critical governmental position.
And exactly what good has McCain done in his career? He's pro deregulation(he's got more lobbyists involved with his campaign than anyone else who was running for president this election year INCLUDING LOBBYISTS FROM FANNIE MAE!!), pro big oil, anti social security and medicare. He was gung ho about this **** hole war we got in for no reason. Have you seen his health care plan???
The problem is most people swallow his bullshit about being a POW (you know there is an organization of vets against McCain?) and other jingoistic nonsense that satisfies a large portion of the non-thinking public who want someone as dumb as them to be president because it makes them feel better about being stupid.
And whoever said Obama is a Marxist needs to open a ******* book. Obama is a capitalist through and through unfortunately. This is my point. People throw around terms like Marxist, Terrorist, "elitist" because they either can't openly admit they hate him because he's black or it's just an excuse to not have to learn anything about the people running for office. It's easy to dismiss someone without knowing anything about them if you label them a communist or a terrorist. I WISH he was a marxist. I might vote for him if he was.
And Jason, I actually agree with everything you've said here believe it or not.
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10-10-2008, 01:16 AM
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I bet your judgement was shitty, too, when you were eight.
And you want to talk about Freddie and Fanny? www.keatingeconomics.com
And you want to talk about Freddie and Fanny? www.keatingeconomics.com
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10-10-2008, 01:21 AM
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why do people magically make this Obama v. Palin?
It's not McCain v. Biden? people can not legitimately say they fear McCain dying in presidency. If they do they are even more petty and silly than people who use "Hussein" with Obama. McCain is probably in better health than Clinton 2nd term. he's younger than Reagan second term. He's much better off than FDR. Still don't understand that whole deal.
It's not McCain v. Biden? people can not legitimately say they fear McCain dying in presidency. If they do they are even more petty and silly than people who use "Hussein" with Obama. McCain is probably in better health than Clinton 2nd term. he's younger than Reagan second term. He's much better off than FDR. Still don't understand that whole deal.
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10-10-2008, 01:22 AM
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Explain to me how this makes you anything but racist. It's this kind of backwards thinking redneck fuckery that has stunted social progress for hundreds of years in this country and it disgusts me. You are a racist and a bigot and I hope you sleep soundly at night knowing it.
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10-10-2008, 01:31 AM
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I bet your judgement was shitty, too, when you were eight.
And you want to talk about Freddie and Fanny? www.keatingeconomics.com
And you want to talk about Freddie and Fanny? www.keatingeconomics.com
I love that excuse. Was he 8 when he launched his political career in Ayers living room?
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10-10-2008, 01:34 AM
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I've seen video of him and frankly as a white guy I agree with him. He's not a racist. It's a fact that white people enslaved blacks, institutionalized racsism and killed Native americans, etc.
Furthermore have you seen Palin's preacher??? He asked for protection for her from WITCHES!!!! And if you think yeah yeah she's just the VP it's not important consider that McCain picked her. He wants to appeal to these wackjobs. And he's entrusting an idiotic wackjob in a critical governmental position.
And exactly what good has McCain done in his career? He's pro deregulation(he's got more lobbyists involved with his campaign than anyone else who was running for president this election year INCLUDING LOBBYISTS FROM FANNIE MAE!!), pro big oil, anti social security and medicare. He was gung ho about this **** hole war we got in for no reason. Have you seen his health care plan???
The problem is most people swallow his bullshit about being a POW (you know there is an organization of vets against McCain?) and other jingoistic nonsense that satisfies a large portion of the non-thinking public who want someone as dumb as them to be president because it makes them feel better about being stupid.
And whoever said Obama is a Marxist needs to open a ******* book. Obama is a capitalist through and through unfortunately. This is my point. People throw around terms like Marxist, Terrorist, "elitist" because they either can't openly admit they hate him because he's black or it's just an excuse to not have to learn anything about the people running for office. It's easy to dismiss someone without knowing anything about them if you label them a communist or a terrorist. I WISH he was a marxist. I might vote for him if he was.
And Jason, I actually agree with everything you've said here believe it or not.
Furthermore have you seen Palin's preacher??? He asked for protection for her from WITCHES!!!! And if you think yeah yeah she's just the VP it's not important consider that McCain picked her. He wants to appeal to these wackjobs. And he's entrusting an idiotic wackjob in a critical governmental position.
And exactly what good has McCain done in his career? He's pro deregulation(he's got more lobbyists involved with his campaign than anyone else who was running for president this election year INCLUDING LOBBYISTS FROM FANNIE MAE!!), pro big oil, anti social security and medicare. He was gung ho about this **** hole war we got in for no reason. Have you seen his health care plan???
The problem is most people swallow his bullshit about being a POW (you know there is an organization of vets against McCain?) and other jingoistic nonsense that satisfies a large portion of the non-thinking public who want someone as dumb as them to be president because it makes them feel better about being stupid.
And whoever said Obama is a Marxist needs to open a ******* book. Obama is a capitalist through and through unfortunately. This is my point. People throw around terms like Marxist, Terrorist, "elitist" because they either can't openly admit they hate him because he's black or it's just an excuse to not have to learn anything about the people running for office. It's easy to dismiss someone without knowing anything about them if you label them a communist or a terrorist. I WISH he was a marxist. I might vote for him if he was.
And Jason, I actually agree with everything you've said here believe it or not.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...a_marxist.html
You need to open a book. Prolly dosent matter anyway cause this statement ( I WISH he was a marxist) tells me you support communism.
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10-10-2008, 01:50 AM
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That's not a book number one. And number two that article doesn't even call Obama a Marxist. It only says he is associated with people that have sympathies for socialist ideals. His policies are capitalist. Chomsky happens to be one of the smartest people in this country by the way and is respected globally for his political and linguistic writings. Obama is so centrist and boring and not radical it's not even funny.
Oh and if you want an article that links Presidential candidates to questionable people here's one for you: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_berman
from a publication largely financially supported by Paul Newman btw.
Oh and if you want an article that links Presidential candidates to questionable people here's one for you: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_berman
from a publication largely financially supported by Paul Newman btw.
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10-10-2008, 02:01 AM
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That's not a book number one. And number two that article doesn't even call Obama a Marxist. It only says he is associated with people that have sympathies for socialist ideals. Chomsky happens to be one of the smartest people in this country by the way and is respected globally for his political and linguistic writings. Obama is so centrist and boring and not radical it's not even funny.
Oh and if you want an article that links Presidential candidates to questionable people here's one for you: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_bermanfrom a publication largely financially supported by Paul Newman btw.
Oh and if you want an article that links Presidential candidates to questionable people here's one for you: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_bermanfrom a publication largely financially supported by Paul Newman btw.
"Noam Chomsky, a hypocrite and fraud masquerading as a political philosopher. Mr. Chomsky, perhaps admired by Obama as by his official blogger, is fond of visiting dictators and terrorists and giving speeches blaming all the worlds' ills on America. All while accepting money from military conteacts at MIT. " Hmmm.
When Kremlin becomes an unrepentant terrorist who admittedly bombs places here in the US, then your argument will have merit.
Im going to bed, we can continue the fun tomorrow(later).
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10-10-2008, 02:03 AM
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God, how I savor the irony of Savington's post...
"Explain to me how this makes you anything but racist. It's this kind blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... You are a racist and a bigot and I hope you sleep soundly at night knowing it."
Followed by his sig: "Read, Think, Post. In that order."
LOL! Truly a product of an inferior education system! Try a little logic and less venomous emotion, fella. You come across like a college freshman trying to impress his date at their first protest...NOT the way to influence people and a sure-fire way to antagonize potential allies.
This bullshit gets really old really fast. Let's get the election over with so we can get back to debating the important question, "Which is better, turbos or superchargers?"
"Explain to me how this makes you anything but racist. It's this kind blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... You are a racist and a bigot and I hope you sleep soundly at night knowing it."
Followed by his sig: "Read, Think, Post. In that order."
LOL! Truly a product of an inferior education system! Try a little logic and less venomous emotion, fella. You come across like a college freshman trying to impress his date at their first protest...NOT the way to influence people and a sure-fire way to antagonize potential allies.
This bullshit gets really old really fast. Let's get the election over with so we can get back to debating the important question, "Which is better, turbos or superchargers?"
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10-10-2008, 02:12 AM
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God, how I savor the irony of Savington's post...
"Explain to me how this makes you anything but racist. It's this kind blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... You are a racist and a bigot and I hope you sleep soundly at night knowing it."
Followed by his sig: "Read, Think, Post. In that order."
LOL! Truly a product of an inferior education system! Try a little logic and less venomous emotion, fella. You come across like a college freshman trying to impress his date at their first protest...NOT the way to influence people and a sure-fire way to antagonize potential allies.
"Explain to me how this makes you anything but racist. It's this kind blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... You are a racist and a bigot and I hope you sleep soundly at night knowing it."
Followed by his sig: "Read, Think, Post. In that order."
LOL! Truly a product of an inferior education system! Try a little logic and less venomous emotion, fella. You come across like a college freshman trying to impress his date at their first protest...NOT the way to influence people and a sure-fire way to antagonize potential allies.
2. I do not ally myself with them, so I don't care what they think
3. Did you have a point or are you a racist ******* too?
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10-10-2008, 02:13 AM
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"Oh and I support some of the ideals of marxism. "
**** Marxism and **** Communism. I stood at the East German border and saw the guard towers, saw the minefields, and saw the booby-trapped fences to keep their own people from getting out! Marxism is an abomination.
Don't even get me started on my little confrontation with the Saudi Arabian religious police in Riyadh....
Just my .02.
**** Marxism and **** Communism. I stood at the East German border and saw the guard towers, saw the minefields, and saw the booby-trapped fences to keep their own people from getting out! Marxism is an abomination.
Don't even get me started on my little confrontation with the Saudi Arabian religious police in Riyadh....
Just my .02.
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10-10-2008, 02:56 AM
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Per Savington:
"1. There is nothing logical about racism, or racists
2. I do not ally myself with them, so I don't care what they think
3. Did you have a point or are you "gratuitous insult?"
There is nothing logical about your three points above. Point one is arguably false. Point two, you'd better care what they think (read Sun Tzu). Point three is an emotional temper tantrum and not an argument.
So which is better, turbos or superchargers?
"Read, Think, Post. In that order."
"1. There is nothing logical about racism, or racists
2. I do not ally myself with them, so I don't care what they think
3. Did you have a point or are you "gratuitous insult?"
There is nothing logical about your three points above. Point one is arguably false. Point two, you'd better care what they think (read Sun Tzu). Point three is an emotional temper tantrum and not an argument.
So which is better, turbos or superchargers?
"Read, Think, Post. In that order."
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10-10-2008, 03:28 AM
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"Oh and I support some of the ideals of marxism. "
**** Marxism and **** Communism. I stood at the East German border and saw the guard towers, saw the minefields, and saw the booby-trapped fences to keep their own people from getting out! Marxism is an abomination.
Don't even get me started on my little confrontation with the Saudi Arabian religious police in Riyadh....
Just my .02.
**** Marxism and **** Communism. I stood at the East German border and saw the guard towers, saw the minefields, and saw the booby-trapped fences to keep their own people from getting out! Marxism is an abomination.
Don't even get me started on my little confrontation with the Saudi Arabian religious police in Riyadh....
Just my .02.
And levnubhin I'm sorry but you're not going to prove anything by copying the OPINIONS of a conservative rag. I kind of doubt you knew who Chomsky was before you read that article and I also doubt you've bothered to find out anything about him from a non-biased source since. Just because they bad mouth him or make inferences about Obama doesn't make it true.
Back to Obama's reverend. Have we all forgotten that McCain denounced the far right christian conservatives in his 2000 campaign only to court the likes of Jerry Falwell (a man who blamed 9/11 on gays and feminists)in this campaign. McCain is the biggest hypocrite to come down the line in a long time. But even so does that make him a Christian conservative? No. And nothing in your article makes Obama a communist, let alone a marxist.
You're making my point for me. If you're not going to vote for someone do so because of policy not bullshit character attacks. Again, I'm not voting for Obama, but it's because I don't like all his policies not because some right wing racist says he's a commie or a terrorist or his name is funny or any other kindergarten ****. Grow up.
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10-10-2008, 03:34 AM
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Per Savington:
"1. There is nothing logical about racism, or racists
2. I do not ally myself with them, so I don't care what they think
3. Did you have a point or are you "gratuitous insult?"
There is nothing logical about your three points above. Point one is arguably false. Point two, you'd better care what they think (read Sun Tzu). Point three is an emotional temper tantrum and not an argument.
So which is better, turbos or superchargers?
"Read, Think, Post. In that order."
"1. There is nothing logical about racism, or racists
2. I do not ally myself with them, so I don't care what they think
3. Did you have a point or are you "gratuitous insult?"
There is nothing logical about your three points above. Point one is arguably false. Point two, you'd better care what they think (read Sun Tzu). Point three is an emotional temper tantrum and not an argument.
So which is better, turbos or superchargers?
"Read, Think, Post. In that order."
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10-10-2008, 06:01 AM
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Wow.....thanks bro.
Not racist in any way, shape, or form. I think as an american citizen I have the right to say that I wouldn't trust a man with that name to run our country. It really has nothing to do with his name, but at the same time it does. I could care less if our next president was black, brown, yellow, red, a women!
The racist card cant be pulled out that quick. Nobody here is hating on black people or saying they aren't voting for him cause he's black....etc etc. Its not fun anymore to argue over the internet.....lets set up a meeting and all sit down in person to talk. This way when a guy like johndoe tries to jump in we can pick him up and throw him out the motherfuckin window.
No need to be a ******* straight up ******* Sav. I think your overreacting.....just a little.
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Not racist in any way, shape, or form. I think as an american citizen I have the right to say that I wouldn't trust a man with that name to run our country. It really has nothing to do with his name, but at the same time it does. I could care less if our next president was black, brown, yellow, red, a women!
The racist card cant be pulled out that quick. Nobody here is hating on black people or saying they aren't voting for him cause he's black....etc etc. Its not fun anymore to argue over the internet.....lets set up a meeting and all sit down in person to talk. This way when a guy like johndoe tries to jump in we can pick him up and throw him out the motherfuckin window.
No need to be a ******* straight up ******* Sav. I think your overreacting.....just a little.
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