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thesnowboarder 07-10-2009 06:27 PM

Anyone have a 8.7 motor w/ 99 head and 2560?
 
I am curious what ill be able to do with this setup and am looking for anyones dyno numbers.

Begi cast mani/separated gases dp.

What kind of power do you guys think an 8.7 motor with a 99 head and a 2560 will be able to do?

hustler 07-10-2009 09:48 PM

which turbine housing? The bigger the turbine housing, the more spark angle and more torque subsequently. If some of you california fags drove my car, and wanted 260-330whp (dynodynamics) then you'd all run the DP. However, Savinton and just about everyone else on this forum think you need a tiny turbine because you have this fantasy where 3800rpm is too late to hit 15psi, so you'll never give it a chance.

I think an 8.7 motor will make just as much power from a gt2560 as a 9:1 motor, but it won't make as much torque.

So I'll say you'll make 230whp at 15psi but only 210wtq on a dynodynamics, maybe less torque. Once you drive a stump-puller like mine, you'll never go back to little turbine housings. Then again, all my dyno #'s are with a 2.5" exhaust gasket...in 3" pipe. They're probably scary #'s now.

neogenesis2004 07-10-2009 09:59 PM

Why the fuck did you ever put a 2.5" exhaust gasket on a 3" exhaust? Ever think of using a knife to cut the hole bigger? I love how all the sudden you think you are swinging dick when it comes to turbos when less than a year ago you didn't have a fucking clue.

18psi 07-11-2009 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 429002)
Why the fuck did you ever put a 2.5" exhaust gasket on a 3" exhaust? Ever think of using a knife to cut the hole bigger? I love how all the sudden you think you are swinging dick when it comes to turbos when less than a year ago you didn't have a fucking clue.

:giggle:

JasonC SBB 07-11-2009 12:17 PM

You should easily make >240 at 12 psi.

hustler 07-11-2009 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 429002)
Why the fuck did you ever put a 2.5" exhaust gasket on a 3" exhaust? Ever think of using a knife to cut the hole bigger? I love how all the sudden you think you are swinging dick when it comes to turbos when less than a year ago you didn't have a fucking clue.

I think someone helping-out that day put it in because the one I hollowed-out looked used.

Your girlfriend appreciates my swinging meat. Maybe if you walked into a gym for the first time in your life and picked-up some iron, instead of picking-up a mouse to play warcraft, you might have a chance of producing a drop of testosterone and with any luck you'll grow a dick instead of that little nub your girlfriend complains about. Talk shit to me again and I'll crush your fucking skull.

neogenesis2004 07-11-2009 03:09 PM

It took me 2 weeks to turbo my miata. It took you two years. Grow some balls you pussy fuck.

I built my dp, exhaust, and heatshield from scratch. I rebuilt the motor in my crx in a weekend. I built the motor in tom's brg. You call yourself a man? WTF have you built with you bare hands other than a pile of sad whining questions about turbo this and turbo that. You are a sad excuse of an e-thug that relies on people who know thing to get them done for you. Go retreat to your cave you Neanderthal POS.

TurboTim 07-11-2009 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 428931)
I am curious what ill be able to do with this setup and am looking for anyones dyno numbers.

Begi cast mani/separated gases dp.

What kind of power do you guys think an 8.7 motor with a 99 head and a 2560 will be able to do?

8.7 CI motor is up to what year?

Want more spool and better power? Get my tubular replacement manifold for the BEGI cast piece.

thesnowboarder 07-11-2009 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 429240)
8.7 CI motor is up to what year?

Want more spool and better power? Get my tubular replacement manifold for the BEGI cast piece.

It will be in a 94-95 block with supertech pistons and belfab rods.

How much was that mani again?

TurboTim 07-11-2009 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 429248)
It will be in a 94-95 block with supertech pistons and belfab rods.

How much was that mani again?

Oh. Sounds like a nice build.

$575 mild steel no egr T2.

Savington 07-11-2009 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 429240)

Want more spool and better power? Get my tubular replacement manifold for the BEGI cast piece.


lol, I just got a text about this.

TurboTim 07-11-2009 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 429251)
lol, I just got a text about this.

Why? You're getting something even better. :makeout:

thesnowboarder 07-11-2009 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 429250)
Oh. Sounds like a nice build.

$575 mild steel no egr T2.

Sent you a PM with a few questions. Looking for SS.

TurboTim 07-11-2009 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 429253)
Sent you a PM with a few questions. Looking for SS.

Replied. Timeframe...next mani is going to be started in about 4 weeks. Don't know what it will be yet, if I don't get any buyers of what I have already done by then, I'll probably do a MSM replacement mani.

neogenesis2004 07-11-2009 07:13 PM

Tim's work is definately great. Best design available for sure if you want best performance. I would say though that ss isn't really needed. I'd just get sch40 mild and call it a day. It would last forever. You could hang the titanic off of it.

hustler 07-11-2009 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 429198)
It took me 2 weeks to turbo my miata. It took you two years. Grow some balls you pussy fuck.

I built my dp, exhaust, and heatshield from scratch. I rebuilt the motor in my crx in a weekend. I built the motor in tom's brg. You call yourself a man? WTF have you built with you bare hands other than a pile of sad whining questions about turbo this and turbo that. You are a sad excuse of an e-thug that relies on people who know thing to get them done for you. Go retreat to your cave you Neanderthal POS.

oh man, I'm half hard just reading about your fabrication glory. I'll remember that when I'm setting lap records and going home to supermodels.

flier129 07-11-2009 08:38 PM

This thread delivers in more ways than one lol.

I'm running a 9:1 motor,with FM's log-style mani, 2000 head and tuning towards 15psi. I should be hoping on the dyno within the next month or so, I'll let know with the numbers. Hopefully I'll see 240rwhp/230ftlbs at least, well I'd be happy with that for now.

I'll end up getting a 3'' exhaust and getting Tim's FM/BEGi replacement then shooting for 270/250 or more.

thesnowboarder 07-11-2009 09:29 PM

Alright, lets toy with the idea of absurd flow, v-bands and maxing out the 2560.

What kind of power might one expect with both a .64 and .86 housing..

Should i even mess with the 2560 anymore?

I feel like if i decide to go absurd flow, built motor, 99 head why even mess with a small turbo anymore.

hustler 07-11-2009 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 429319)
Alright, lets toy with the idea of absurd flow, v-bands and maxing out the 2560.

What kind of power might one expect with both a .64 and .86 housing..

Should i even mess with the 2560 anymore?

I feel like if i decide to go absurd flow, built motor, 99 head why even mess with a small turbo anymore.

do you care about torque? If not, then go with the small housing. 260wtq at 4k rpm is pretty damn fun and really easy to drive. With the larger housing you'll also make more power when you hit the efficiency range ont he comrpessor because its much less restrictive on the exhaust.

TurboTim 07-12-2009 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 429319)
Alright, lets toy with the idea of absurd flow, v-bands and maxing out the 2560.

What kind of power might one expect with both a .64 and .86 housing..

Should i even mess with the 2560 anymore?

I feel like if i decide to go absurd flow, built motor, 99 head why even mess with a small turbo anymore.

Paul's '99 headed '94 1.8 2560 w/BEGI cast intake, 70mm TB maxed at 300rwhp @14...17psi only gave him higher IAT's and like 307rwhp, so I'd say the max is right around 300 with that turbo, regardless of TiAL or garrett housing, internal or external WG...this is with the standard A/R 2560 (T2 flanged) obviously. Artie makes similar hp and 265ft-lbs. "instant" spool on both, that is what you get with the 2560...perfect for the street and awesome for the auto-x crew, but if you're a big boy like hustler and Sav and like running on a road course, I'd go with a larger turbo.


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