Anyone have/used a noise suppressor (silencer) for their gun?
 

I'm thinking about buying one to use on my Ruger 10/22 rifle and Walther P22 pistol. It is expensive as hell IMHO ($550) and I want to know if I am wasting my money on a useless toy?

Does the $550 include the transfer stamp fee?

I looked into doing it when I was in VA, but was never rich enough. So my suggestion to you is to DO IT.

They sell these at the local gun store, I thought about getting one for my 9mm until I found out it would cost like $750. If you have the machinery, it's a piece of cake to make one. The question is, can you make it yourself? Or would you rather pay the money for one?
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Making one might be easy, getting caught with one on the other hand means you are rooming with Bubba from now on.

The real cost and the hard part is getting the Class 3 stamp so that you can legally own it and shoot it.

What brands are available to you? There are some very good .22 suppressors available for around $250. Tack on your $200 tax stamp and you are still under $500.

Also, ask your shop if they will assist with setting up a living trust. This lets you bypass the LEO-signature requirement and also include any family members as members of the trust. The shop I'm planning to use charges $50 to create and file the trust which I consider money well-spent.

I've already got my .22 pistol set up with a threaded barrel bushing, just waiting for the extra cash to start the purchase process.

This is true, but you're paying for what? The government to know that you own it? It's like saying that you actually need a hunting license to shoot a deer on your own property if it's in season, or you actually need a drivers license to drive a car.
Legally Yes, but does it leave you physically incapable of doing it? Not in my law book.

Its a good thing you live in bum fuck egypt then.
That kind of "law book" will get your ass to jail real quick around here

Even if we are talking about a post-meltdown scenario, there are plenty of easy to construct suppressor designs that I don't see the point in breaking the law now. Not worth going to jail over it.

+1

It can be up to 250k fine and and jail without a class 3 liscense IIRC. Easy to make, and hope you like tossing salads if you get caught with one.

You'll be cool like james bond.......at least as coo as james bond with a dick in his mouth.

LOL. That's if you get caught though. I mean, what, are you gonna rob a bank? Seriously...If you own a supressor, what do you own it for? Just to say "I have this"?

Shooting without ear protection is nice. And they're cool. Seriously, we are talking about suppressors on a turbo Miata forum...does we really need to justify purchasing cool things to each other?

we are all such bad asses on the fucking internet.
"who cares about going to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison? we can easily escape and evade the law like superheroes"

The type of shit you get into without a license for something like this is not a slap on the wrist.

I guess its just hard to understand some of you guys that live in places where a million people wouldn't call the cops if they even remotely heard/seen you with a silencer.

To keep the tree-hugging neighbors from meddling in your business when you're taking care of the groundhog that is destroying the foundation of your woodshed.

srsly, we've been killing varmints in the backyard for 50 years with guns without a problem. Some fuckers go and buy the property behind us and build a house two years back, and now they think they can tell me that I can't dispatch the groundhog that is destroying my shed? They'd better shut the fuck up before a 'stray' wanders their way. The groundhog is probably in my shed because they chopped down the 3 acres of woods on their property.

I'm not justifing anything, my car runs low 13's in the 1/4 and it has a MS2 standalone with 460cc RX-7 injectors, and a little turbo with around 13 psi. That's all I'm sayin on a miata forum. You get what I'm layin down, son?

In PA, it is legal to KILL groundhogs year round. If there were any left in my yard, I would enforce this policy.

I'm looking at (on the suggestion of the guy who is going to sell it to me) an Innovative Arms Apex .22

$295 plus 7% tax.
$200 tax stamp
$30 adapter

If I buy my own on the net he will do a transfer fee for $75 (seems a little high). He says a trust is around $225 so I won't go that way. Just too cheap.

If there were any left in my yard, I would kill it and then leave the bloody carcass on their front porch.

You know...I drove through Ohio once, and it was boring, but I like the way you think!

Why do you want one? A pillow wrapped around the barrel usually does the trick.

IDK if it has already been mentioned but when i went to go look at getting a P22, one of my friends that owns a gun shop here was showing me a sweet ass surpressor that you can take apart for cleaning (good option to look in to sence you would probly be shooting a .22 alot cause of how cheap the ammo is)

It would be cool if it also threaded on to your shifter :)

Like a shifter handle on the shifter? That would be MINT. A shifter handle that you unscrew and then screw onto the barrel of your .22 or whatever gun you have. Obviously, there would be a thread adapter on the shifter itself, so the threaded adapter would have the same threads as your gun barrel. The supressor could even say MiataTurbo.net, compliments of ME. What's it worth? I'm thinkin $500 paypal as a gift, for the supressor and the adapter and you provide the thread pitch / caliber, and length you want. Shipping included.

This.

:)

Or a custom tactical flashlight that just so happens to thread onto the barrel...

Yeah, this one comes apart for cleaning...

.22 is a dirty round, sounds dope with a surpressor though. click click click like a bb gun

If you've ever heard multiple 7.62x51 rounds firing next to your ear WITHOUT EAR PLUGS, you'll understand why several people (including me) appreciate the supressor.

My FFL says you no longer need plugs but it is NOT "quiet". I've only heard them in an indoor range and I had my hearing protection on so I have no idea what it really sounds like.

After running 600 rounds out of a Ruger yesterday... even through ear stuff... I can't imagine myself rationalizing the expense.

It's like the guy next to men yesterday... had a pile of guns. Modded stuff, shotgun, ar15 with tons of crap on it, LOUD .357, crapload of other stuff, etc.... was such a bad shot it made me chuckle/sad/cringe. Bought lots of stuff... no real reason.

Unless you need to work some covert ops for the government... or MUST kill varmits in the backyard...

I have several guns over here. Other than my concealed pistol, none are really needed. They are toys and the sound suppressor would just be another toy. Actually, I would probably start shooting my gun in my back yard from time to time (I live in a neighborhood) if it was not so loud.

Unless you have a few acres and a healthy hill/mountain backstop... why in the backyard?

Then again, I think I look at it like track time. There is a time and a place for everything... car fun > track, gun fun > range.

I think it's hilarious that you posted in the Christmas presents thread about how it was all a waste of money, and a bunch of shit about frugal this frugal that. Yet here we are looking at a $600 silencer with pretty much zero purpose.

Practice what you preach...

Think about how much money he saves by not wrapping presents though!

Just buy some Aguila subsonic ammo and forget the supressor.......

I am DEFINITELY practicing what I preach. If you don't waste money for decades on stupid crap you can later have money for things that you want. That $25 I saved in 1995 by not going to see Toy Story in the theater has turned into $600. Are you saying that I can NEVER buy something I want for the rest of my life? I think you are missing the point of becoming a millionaire. Like Dave Ramsey says "Live like no one else so later you can live like no one else". You aren't going to be able to buy a silencer because you just had to buy your aunt that dancing Santa toy years ago. THAT is was a waste of money.

Just get a Ruger AWC Amphibian.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=207716732

I use a potato.

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This is relevant to my interests

Sell that piece of shit P22 and buy a Mosquito. Don't waste a can on a P22.

You have to be the stupidest son of a bitch on the Internet.

Really? I have heard very, very few good good things about the mosquito. It might look cool and be a sig and all, but its not very reliable. All of this third hand info though...

In regards to why? In europe it is considered rude NOT to use a suppressor. It is only the USA and our hollywood misconceptions that make us believe that silencers are "evil".

The only reason suppressors are even restricted here is due to anti-poaching laws. There will be a serious push made to remove suppressors from the Gun Control Act in the coming years from what I hear.

In regards to splittime - In Illinois they are Illegal unfortunately unless you are a class 3 dealer that has them for "demonstration purposes." Even for non dealers, it is best to own them as a trust, that way if you die your heirs can transfer the device. Otherwise it will be destroyed. (same with any full auto guns)

Check out http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/ for more info.

And buy it if you want it. When they become legal in Illinois I will be getting one for every firearm I own.

I have a friend with a Mosquito. Complete piece of crap. I pump 500 rounds at a time through the P22 (only the cheapest junk ammo I can buy) and it never fails. Also, the grip is the best I have ever felt on a gun. I wish they made all pistols like that. Feels like it was custom made for my hand.

FWIW, I did do a lot of trigger work and polishing on the gun before I ever fired the first shot so that may have something to do with it.

I agree that the P22 is a very comfortable gun to hold, I love how slim it is. I want one so bad and will also be looking into picking up the 380 version....

From what I have heard, the PK380 is not the best gun. It tends to feel kind of cheap and apparently can have some FTF issues. If you are picking it up just go to go to the range and enjoy, it will probably make a nice toy. I am not so sure I would trust it as a carry weapon.

The P22 would be the fun gun. I just really want something that has the same feel (comfortable, slim and easy to conceal) to carry....

I think S&W 422/622/2206's make the best .22 suppressor hosts. The barrel is set quite low so the iron sights are still usable with a suppressor, and you can get a threaded barrel bushing rather than having to get a second threaded barrel.

I have heard good things about the p99? I can't recall but its a similar VERY slim 9mm... I shopped it against the Kahr PM9 (smaller if I recall) and the Taurus PT709 slim. For the price I am going to give the slim a try because I already have a Ruger SR9c that I love that is close enough if I don't feel comfortable (safe) carrying the slim.

Disclaimer: I don't carry in Illinois - but I do have carry permits for other states.