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sixshooter 04-14-2011 07:40 PM

BatMoWheel turbos have arrived
 
This is called the BatMoWheel by Bullseye Power:

http://www.bullseyepower.com/seepicture.asp?b=7&bc=93

http://www.bullseyepower.com/seepicture.asp?b=2&bc=93
http://www.floridasupras.com/gallery...s/IMAG0198.jpg
http://www.floridasupras.com/gallery...s/IMAG0196.jpg

The thread:
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...wer-Batmowheel


skidude 04-14-2011 09:40 PM

I don't get it. Looks like a nice turbo, but what's special?

samwu8k 04-14-2011 09:44 PM

theres a extra little kink in the fan blades compared to a normal one i guesss. dont know what that does to flow tho :/

viperormiata 04-14-2011 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by skidude (Post 714467)
I don't get it. Looks like a nice turbo, but what's special?


Originally Posted by samwu8k (Post 714470)
theres a extra little kink in the fan blades compared to a normal one i guesss. dont know what that does to flow tho :/

Did either of you bother to read the thread???

"Bullseye Power - Batmowheel

Bullseye Power just introduced it's new wheel design, the Batmowheel. The idea is that the blade design should have more surface area than the straight blade version. For example, the 66mm compressor wheel would have the same surface area as a 71mm. "

"For comparison, GE has been using the same design wheel in their jet engines and continues to do so with their GEnx engines.

Skip to 0:49 to hear them talk about the blade design."


jtothawhat 04-14-2011 10:04 PM

The little fins look like it could possibly help bring air into the compressor? Really doesn't look at that aerodynamic to me.

viperormiata 04-14-2011 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by jtothawhat (Post 714477)
The little fins look like it could possibly help bring air into the compressor? Really doesn't look at that aerodynamic to me.

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-co...-face-palm.gif

Pitlab77 04-14-2011 10:07 PM

and here I though it would have a bat symbol on it.
http://www.google.com/url?source=img...GktZGUtftMS3Tg

skidude 04-14-2011 10:09 PM

Didn't even notice the link to a thread with all those shiny pictures in the way!

sixshooter 04-15-2011 08:03 AM

Tik-now-li-gee.

Innovation is kewyl.

chokeasphyxia 04-15-2011 08:31 AM

I was at that shop when it was installed on the boostlab supra, Advanced Race Technology here in sarasota. Pretty cool looking thing.

samnavy 04-15-2011 10:24 AM

Sounds like a marketing gimmick to me since they really tell you nothing technical.
Fan sections in your average hi-bypass passenger airliner engine turn at around 2500-3000rpm. I'm sure the aero principles translate directly to a turbocharger spinning at 130,000 rpm. It's not that big of a difference.

18psi 04-15-2011 10:29 AM

I'm not impressed either.

Doppelgänger 04-15-2011 11:03 AM

Needs more compressor map comparisons.

Preluding 04-15-2011 11:03 AM

I guess we'd have to see graphs of 2 identical turbos with different blades for proof.

It sounds like it makes sense... but lots of things can be made to sound good

Efini~FC3S 04-15-2011 11:39 AM

Better than Garrett GTX??

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...ochargers.aspx

Looks like similar sort of fin design...

Faeflora 04-15-2011 12:14 PM

Look fellas it's not revolutionary but overall the design can flow more than a standard wheel without the comprimised spool of a larger mm regular sized wheel. 5-10% is not that much but it is still more flow.

Seriously, this is totally irrelevant to the MT.net community. Few people here are maxing out their turbos. ALSO These turbos won't even come in T3 frame so just forget about ever running one on your miata.

I did look at this shit last night before I bought my T4 66mm standard wheel borg turbo. I didn't get a batmowheel because of a) cost-- I paid $700 for my turbo and this shit would have cost over $1400 and b) Although I would like a lighter billet wheel compressor, my plan is to spray water in it so I want something that's cheap to replace. I'm hoping pre-compressor WI will do much more than a billet wheel when it comes to spool.

Faeflora 04-15-2011 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 714644)
Better than Garrett GTX??

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...ochargers.aspx

Looks like similar sort of fin design...

Yes even the standard non billet or batmowheel borg shits all over the face of garrett. Many people have swapped out their garrets for equivalent borgs and whupped ass

leatherface24 04-15-2011 12:41 PM

Unproven gayness

samnavy 04-15-2011 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 714656)
Look fellas it's not revolutionary but overall the design can flow more than a standard wheel without the comprimised spool of a larger mm regular sized wheel. 5-10% is not that much but it is still more flow.

Where are you reading this? I combed the website and found no "data".

I'd love to know specifically how the wavy compressor wheel works better than a straight or curved wheel. The quip about "increased surface area" doesn't add up. How come airplane propellers aren't designed with a wave? There are curved blades on aircraft, but no waves. I'm just saying that if there was some solid engineering data behind it, they should be willing to at least explain it to the consumer. Increasing the surface area of the leading edge of the blade does not directly translate into more air being compressed.

I'm calling bullshit without a hard technical explanation.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/...0d640f968b.jpg

http://www.alligatorperformance.com/...%201047000.jpg

TurboTim 04-15-2011 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 714608)
Sounds like a marketing gimmick to me since they really tell you nothing technical.
Fan sections in your average hi-bypass passenger airliner engine turn at around 2500-3000rpm. I'm sure the aero principles translate directly to a turbocharger spinning at 130,000 rpm. It's not that big of a difference.

For once I agree with you. Seems to me to be a way to do something different with their fancy 5 axis cnc. Just doing a billet wheel isn't special enough anymore.


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