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m2cupcar 01-10-2007 01:22 PM

BEGI mazdaspeed3 - Xede only: 288fwhp 310ftlbs
 
Link is on the front page.
Amazing to think that for $1k and some minor wiring you can get that kind of gain from the OE setup.

Mach929 01-10-2007 01:41 PM

i noticed this, a friend of mine has the mazdaspeed6 and was wondering if it would also work for his application. but the results are nice!

Braineack 01-10-2007 01:43 PM

look at the fuel before the Xede....that alone was probably the most substaintal gain.

fmowry 01-10-2007 02:00 PM

Mileage must suck on a stock MS3 10:1?? Geez. What are they trying to do kill cats and plugs quickly?

Frank

m2cupcar 01-10-2007 02:19 PM

Think that's a tactic for keeping the car "safe"?
That af curve is reminiscent of the Miata's with the afpr and turbo

Mach929 01-10-2007 02:34 PM

my friend with the ms6 gets 8mpg, but we've asked around and nobody else mentioned theirs was that bad

chuckerants 01-10-2007 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by fmowry (Post 70870)
Mileage must suck on a stock MS3 10:1?? Geez. What are they trying to do kill cats and plugs quickly?

Frank

The two stock MSMs I have dyno plots of both are into the 10:1 (or even lower as 10:1 is as low as the dynojet goes to) as soon asyou go WOT.

fmowry 01-10-2007 03:30 PM

As for the MS6, I saw one on the dyno with the crazy ECU problem. After a pull or two, the heatsoak would cause the ECU to go into limp mode and the car would literally drop 100whp or so. It just fell on it's face obviously. Did Mazda take care of that? It ran pig rich too.

Frank

Jefe 01-10-2007 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by fmowry (Post 70892)
As for the MS6, I saw one on the dyno with the crazy ECU problem. After a pull or two, the heatsoak would cause the ECU to go into limp mode and the car would literally drop 100whp or so. It just fell on it's face obviously. Did Mazda take care of that? It ran pig rich too.

Frank

Don't MS6's , and MS3's? run with a top mounted coolers?
I wouldn't think that would work out so well on a Dyno?

fmowry 01-10-2007 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Jefe (Post 70893)
Don't MS6's , and MS3's? run with a top mounted coolers?
I wouldn't think that would work out so well on a Dyno?

Yes and it's integrated to be much harder to replace than the Subaru TMICs. It is very shallow too.

Most dynos have a highflow fan that straps to a TMIC to get flow through it. At least AWD dynos since they get a lot of Suby business.

Frank

TurboTim 01-10-2007 03:58 PM

Wow. Those plots aren't even close to one another. Xede over 300 ft-lbs at 3000 rpm, stock has less than 150? Something just doesn't look right.

y8s 01-10-2007 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 70899)
Wow. Those plots aren't even close to one another. Xede over 300 ft-lbs at 3000 rpm, stock has less than 150? Something just doesn't look right.

stock ECU detunes lower gears for traction control and torque steer. might be related.

hustler 01-11-2007 10:53 AM

this is the nice thing about old ass miatas...stripped down electronics.


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