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miataz 11-27-2007 06:40 PM

Biggest Scam Ever...
 
wow people are really dumb. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=230196755795

I almost lost my money once. It was like this but it was a 69 yenko camaro. 7000$ shipped. It all sounded legit so i wired the money and the lady asked me if i knew the guy and i said no and she said alot of scams are going on with, money gram and that wiring money shit. I lost 700 bucks for some insurance shit to get my money back, but still so many scams on ebay. I would never buy a car off of ebay unless ive seen it in person.

2850$ buy it now...shipped...thats impossible prob over 10grand+ invested in it.

I already sent a report to ebay, guys probably going to get banned.

Zabac 11-27-2007 06:49 PM

seems legit, but i would not buy it without looking at it in person, never, any car
someone local should go look at it...

Joe Perez 11-27-2007 06:56 PM


And now we have come to the best part.The intake and valve covers were powder coated and a 3-piece chrome strut tower brace was installed.
That's the best part? :td:

RotorNutFD3S 11-27-2007 06:59 PM

This is the CarFax for it. Funny it's listed in Illinois, but the new owner is in Wisconsin? And the car's color is listed as orange, which from the photos, I guess you might, just maybe, could call it that. But it looks like it used to be orange judging from the underbody shots.


1991 MAZDA MX-5 MIATA
JM1NA3511M0202681
CONVERTIBLE
1.6L L4 FI DOHC / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options

Hi-I'm the CARFAX Xpert™. I'm here to help you better understand the data in this CARFAX Report. Did you know...
We checked over 5 billion records from thousands of data sources for this vehicle
This vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee
The last reported odometer reading was 45,108

A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car.

CARFAX guarantees the information in this section
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GUARANTEED - None of these major title problems were reported by a state Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). If you find that any of these title problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.

Not all accidents or other issues are reported to CARFAX
Total Loss Check

No total loss reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

Structural / Frame Damage Check

No structural / frame damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

Airbag Deployment Check

No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

Odometer Rollback Check

No indication of an odometer rollback. No Issues Indicated

Accident Check

No accidents reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported

Manufacturer Recall Check

No recalls still require repair. No Recalls Reported
A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and found 9 record(s) for this 1991 MAZDA MX-5 MIATA (JM1NA3511M0202681).

Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
07/17/1990 NICB Vehicle manufactured
and shipped to original dealer

12/04/1990 10 Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Naperville, IL
Title #E6368911 Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported
If you are buying this vehicle from a private seller, check to be sure any associated lien on the vehicle has been paid off.

02/21/1995 17,810 Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Rockford, IL
Title #N7956763 Title issued or updated

07/09/1997 45,108 Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Rockford, IL
Title #T7190799001 Title issued or updated
Duplicate title issued

10/02/2002 Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Rockford, IL
Title #T2275758023 Title issued or updated
Exempt from odometer reporting

06/17/2003 Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Rockford, IL
Title #T3168603538 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Exempt from odometer reporting

09/29/2003 Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Rockford, IL
Title #T3272057001 Title issued or updated
Exempt from odometer reporting

09/07/2007 Wisconsin
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Gratiot, WI
Title #07250A50346 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Exempt from odometer reporting
Vehicle color noted as Orange

11/27/2007 Mazda Motor of America, Inc. No recalls open for repair

bryantaylor 11-27-2007 07:21 PM

some of those pics are clearly photoshoped too

XxGoKoUxX 11-27-2007 07:33 PM

paypal *shrugs* i'm pretty sure no one really tries scamming through paypal nowadays..... cuz either way u still get your money back

turbopezz 11-27-2007 07:35 PM

i thinks its fugly and the max id give is 3,000g's.

XxGoKoUxX 11-27-2007 07:49 PM

lol.... to each his own.... i think the VIS kit looks nice, just not in that color

RotorNutFD3S 11-27-2007 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by bryantaylor (Post 178644)
some of those pics are clearly photoshoped too

Which ones?

levnubhin 11-27-2007 08:00 PM

Hmm, its does seem fishy only because how could they accept $2850 shipped? Seems like a way low price.
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XxGoKoUxX 11-27-2007 08:15 PM

maybe blown motor? lol

rmcelwee 11-27-2007 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by xXxGoKoUxXx (Post 178649)
paypal *shrugs* i'm pretty sure no one really tries scamming through paypal nowadays..... cuz either way u still get your money back

If you think paypal is safe you definitely don't know what you are talking about - I got burned for $1500 and they gave me $200 back.

XxGoKoUxX 11-27-2007 09:04 PM

u got fucked.... kid scammed me a while back... got back every penny of it.... dunno how u only got 200$ back

but i DO believe there's a limit as to how much paypal pays you back

karter74 11-27-2007 09:15 PM

yeah paypal was gonna end up screwing me over in the same fashion, only giving me 200 back of the 400 i spent. luckily for me, i have paypal linked to a credit card, not bank account, so i went straight to the CC company and disputed it with them, bypassing paypal completely, and getting all my money back.

miataz 11-27-2007 09:32 PM

aha i emailed him and said id drive there and come pick it up for 2850...hasn't replied yet

rotaryjunky 11-27-2007 09:38 PM

The reason these pieces of shit keep running these scams is because they are getting money, whether we get refunds or not. Pisses me off. Some scumbag ordered a dell computer with my credit card and Dell called me for new payment info because the credit card company kept denying the charge. They didn't give a shit that I live in MI and they were sending it to CA. Then they wouldn't give me the guys full name and address, although they started to. Good thing that Citibank noticed a $1 test charge and had flagged my account, otherwise more free $ for a waste of food.

XxGoKoUxX 11-27-2007 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by karter74 (Post 178678)
yeah paypal was gonna end up screwing me over in the same fashion, only giving me 200 back of the 400 i spent. luckily for me, i have paypal linked to a credit card, not bank account, so i went straight to the CC company and disputed it with them, bypassing paypal completely, and getting all my money back.

+1 exactly how i did it :)

Bryce 11-27-2007 11:01 PM

Look at the names on the bid history.

mazda/nissan 11-27-2007 11:04 PM

he only needed to create two to compete, i'm pretty sure he wasn't going for stealth with those names

glorydays 11-28-2007 05:38 AM

that car is fugly

Newbsauce 11-28-2007 08:55 AM

Paypal does NOT give the money back because they rely on the method of withdrawing the funds from the sellers account.. if I as a seller simply take the funds out first.. your out of your money. This has happened to me about 2x now. So now I pay everything with CCard through paypal, because CC companies actually DO get the money back.

Atlanta93LE 11-28-2007 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 178824)
Paypal does NOT give the money back because they rely on the method of withdrawing the funds from the sellers account.. if I as a seller simply take the funds out first.. your out of your money. This has happened to me about 2x now. So now I pay everything with CCard through paypal, because CC companies actually DO get the money back.

Not quite true in all cases.

I got scammed from a textbook seller years ago. Seller had a 100% rating when I ordered. Never got the textbook and the seller dropped off the face of the earth, so much so that their account was no longer registered (and obviously then, no $$$ in it). After much hassle and waiting, I managed to get 100% of the money back from paypal.

RotorNutFD3S 11-28-2007 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 178824)
Paypal does NOT give the money back because they rely on the method of withdrawing the funds from the sellers account.. if I as a seller simply take the funds out first.. your out of your money.

Also not true because if you don't have any money in your PP account, they can just pull the funds from whatever bank account you use to process the refund to the buyer.


Originally Posted by Bryceness (Post 178727)
Look at the names on the bid history.


Originally Posted by eBay
eBay has changed how bid history information is displayed for higher-priced items. To help keep the eBay community safe, enhance bidder privacy, and protect our members from fraudulent emails, only you and the seller of the item can view your User ID in bid history. Other members will see anonymous names.


Braineack 11-28-2007 11:10 AM

no they can't; they have no legal authority to do so.

If you win the dispute, and they have no funds in their account, your SOL. The only thing paypal will do is freeze your account until you deposit more, then it goes straight to you.

Atlanta93LE 11-28-2007 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 178896)
If you win the dispute, and they have no funds in their account, your SOL. The only thing paypal will do is freeze your account until you deposit more, then it goes straight to you.

WRONG.

Braineack 11-28-2007 12:12 PM

no, you're wrong. prove to me otherwise nigga.

Newbsauce 11-28-2007 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE (Post 178917)
WRONG.

You are wrong and should have your ovaries removed. Brain is right. This same shit has happened to me 2x. Heres my dispute from Iluvtrueunos:

Resolution Center - Claim Details

We have completed our investigation of this case. We attempted to process a refund from the seller's account to your account. Unfortunately, the seller's account does not contain the funds necessary to cover this refund. We were able to recover $0.00 USD. We have taken action against the seller and are working to recover the remainder of your refund. We will contact you when we have more information. No further action is required of you at this time.

Now, if you think paypal is going to do anything further, your wrong. I have one of these "no further actions" pending from like 4 years ago waiting for my 300 bucks back.

Newbsauce 11-28-2007 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by RotorNutFD3S (Post 178895)
Also not true because if you don't have any money in your PP account, they can just pull the funds from whatever bank account you use to process the refund to the buyer.

That is only applicable if the seller willingly attempts a refund. In the case of a dispute, Paypal does not have the authority to reach into bank accounts and withdraw funds. A Paypal representative personally told me this on the phone.

Braineack 11-28-2007 12:25 PM

if this were the case, I'd surely have my $76 dollars back, Paypal could only "recover" $24 of it....odd.

Loki047 11-28-2007 12:30 PM

I bet not a scam.

Pay with credit card fools. Never been scammed.

Atlanta93LE 11-28-2007 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 178920)
no, you're wrong. prove to me otherwise nigga.


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 178922)
You are wrong and should have your ovaries removed.


Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE (Post 178829)
Not quite true in all cases.

I got scammed from a textbook seller years ago. Seller had a 100% rating when I ordered. Never got the textbook and the seller dropped off the face of the earth, so much so that their account was no longer registered (and obviously then, no $$$ in it). After much hassle and waiting, I managed to get 100% of the money back from paypal.

Not sure why I got special treatment, but who am I to complain? ;) Maybe it was just because the account that money would be recovered from didn't exist any longer, but who knows. If getting my money back makes me an ovary-wieldin' nigga, then so be it. :gay:

STravisVrooman 11-28-2007 02:20 PM

I got screwed for $500 something and paypal gave me $200 back, I think if the seller has more than 50 feedbacks and its more than 98% positive the buyer is protected up to $2000 through paypal and if not its only $200, I learned that the hard way. But I'm pretty sure its different for eBay Motors.

miataz 11-28-2007 03:11 PM

ya but when you pay for it they will be like only money gram or that money transfer shit because once your moneys wired to another person, then you can never get it back.

XxGoKoUxX 11-28-2007 03:44 PM

any feedback form the guy selling the miata?

RotorNutFD3S 11-28-2007 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 178925)
That is only applicable if the seller willingly attempts a refund. In the case of a dispute, Paypal does not have the authority to reach into bank accounts and withdraw funds. A Paypal representative personally told me this on the phone.

I see. It was explained to me the other way a long time ago, and I always thought that, and never had any deal go wrong, so never had to see how it really worked. Thanks for posting that.

magnamx-5 11-28-2007 08:25 PM

it is a junky slow ass m45 of course it is cheap. The car is not worth 2K to me.

miataz 11-28-2007 08:36 PM

lmao^^ nope no reply yet...aha he knows hes scamming the idiot who ever buys it. And sorry they dont make mp62 for a 1.6L:werd:

magnamx-5 11-28-2007 08:46 PM

Actualy they do http://www.fastforwardsuperchargers....splay.php?f=26 he said he could have one to people in it pretty soon. Dan should be driving his car agian by now.

XxGoKoUxX 11-29-2007 08:52 AM

I WANT MY MS FIXED!!! 10psi is just not enoughhhhh

miataz 11-29-2007 04:31 PM

lmao the guy replied i said


nice scam you got going on here buddy...2850shipped if that was true id come down there right now and pick it up but its a scam so i really cant...

and he said

The car is sold

so he really didnt answer my question haha and ebay banned him.

XxGoKoUxX 11-30-2007 12:48 AM

lol....

whattapwn


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