It's got to be big enough to hold the barbecue grill, too. Quit hatin'.

Bullshit. My V-8 Dakota (1993) got better mileage than my Jeep Liberty, which is a 2003. More power, too.

Really? What'd you get? I got maybe 20 on the highway going pretty slow (55-60) in the very best of conditions (4 speed auto, M5's can be had). 18 highway is more accurate and ~13 city driving like a normal person, ~11 driving like I do.

Yup. the Jeep gets 16 mostly. 18 if I'm on long trips, and I actually broke 20 on my way to Myrtle Beach a couple years ago. Truck got 18 all day long, even when i honked on it. On trips, it'd do about 20.

Man, I loved that Dakota. Couldn't find another one anywhere, so settled for the Jeep. Big mistake.

wow, i wouldn't think a Liberty would get mileage that poor.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...jp1q9XPFRqInal

Yep, that could be you!

Correct.

yes yes yes

You can not beat an old sort bus or church bus if you want to do it on the cheap, but then again those Suburbans looked pretty good for the price.

This could be more fun
http://i44.tinypic.com/30mb7sx.jpg

Or drift van
http://i41.tinypic.com/1zqrbfd.jpg

Or just go crazy
http://i40.tinypic.com/2n08tn4.jpg

But I digress, I'd offset the van cost with free room to crash in and just bum showers from friends baller enough to have a room. But I'm willing to sleep in my garage if it had heat and a shower.

One of these days when I get a van to rock I am going to make sure it looks good. So it will be getting a kickass TMNT paint job with the huge wing/spoiler on the back.

http://www.gearfuse.com/wp-content/u...0/tmnt-van.jpg

I'd rather hang out in a van when it's raining. It's also $22/month cheaper to insure the van.

I don't care to buy tools to work on a short bus. The beauty of the van, among other things, is the abundance of parts in junk yards.

That is so bada$$

FWIW I had a friend tow a miata, extra tranny, extra engine, misc parts, in a B2200/Ford Ranger.

Here's a winner... http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/2789449052.html

And another... http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/2749315097.html

Diesel glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those things are pretty wicked... if you don't mind driving a boat. I'm borrowing my buddy's for our move. It's huge, but awesome.

It's a little modified for expedition use:
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I'd ------- love to have an adventure van.

I'd love to have an adventure (w/ you) in a van...

Adventure van would be pretty baller, perfect for what you want IMO.