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BradC 05-12-2009 02:18 PM

Came out from lunch to find this...
 
Some old asshole let his RV roll into the side of my car.

Awesomeness.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/turbolife/hit%202.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/turbolife/hit%201.jpg

gospeed81 05-12-2009 02:20 PM

Nice Wheels!


Did you catch the guy, or hit and run?

wayne_curr 05-12-2009 02:20 PM

get his info?

johndoe 05-12-2009 02:21 PM

If I ever get a terminal disease I'm going to start executing people who are this dumb and careless.

gospeed81 05-12-2009 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by johndoe (Post 407698)
If I ever get a terminal disease I'm going to start executing people who are this dumb and careless.

I've already told myself that if that happens, I'm going to buy a fucking barge, some big old Delta88 or Impala, and go around driving on the offensive. I will mind the rules of the road, but will not brake for dumbfucks that jump out in front of me, will let blinkerless vehicles change lanes right into me, and all the other stuff that won't get me a ticket, but will get them on the phone with their insurance company explaining that they're a dumbass and have to pay a deductible.

BradC 05-12-2009 02:28 PM

Thanks guys, yes, the guy was nice enough to call the police, he was waiting as I came out.

Just put some Flexes on the other week too, can't even enjoy them now!

Trepidatious so to see what the damage tally comes to.

At least my insurance is going to subjugate him for the deductible, at least they are going to push for that. We shall see.

Joe Perez 05-12-2009 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by BradC (Post 407704)
At least my insurance is going to subjugate him for the deductible, at least they are going to push for that. We shall see.

This may be something that varies from state to state, but on each of the three occasions that I've been hit (once in FL, twice in OH), I've not even bothered contacting my own insurance company. I've simply gone through the insurance company of the other driver, submitted a repair estimate from the shop of my choosing, and received a check.

gospeed81 05-12-2009 02:35 PM

+1 on not calling your own insurance

There is no reason for them to be involved unless the other driver doesn't have insurance. If that were the case I'd take them to small claims and pay out of pocket until I saw something from them.

Saml01 05-12-2009 02:53 PM

Dont call your insurance, its all on his insurance now.

Look at the bright side, after a new fender, new door skin, popped rear quarter and full respray your car is gonna be mint.

BradC 05-12-2009 02:53 PM

Too late, already called.

Wasn't sure what to do, never been in this situation before. The officer suggested calling my insurance with the other parties info so they can hash it out.

Hopefully I didn't screw myself.


Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, it has a fresh respray already :(

Stein 05-12-2009 02:55 PM

Damn, that's probably going to be close to a total the way insurance companies value our cars. I'd guess it will be close to $2K with the damage to the rear quarter when you get an actual estimate from a body shop. No easy fix and you will have body filler. Bummer.

Saml01 05-12-2009 02:56 PM

As long as you dont claim with your insurance you are fine. You just have to make sure your insurance calls his insurance and gets money from them.

If you pay a deductible to your insurance company and they write you a check, your insurance premium will go up.

BradC 05-12-2009 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 407720)
As long as you dont claim with your insurance you are fine. You just have to make sure your insurance calls his insurance and gets money from them.

If you pay a deductible to your insurance company and they write you a check, your insurance premium will go up.

Then I am good.

The guy I spoke to at my agent was actually the guy that runs it.

The other parties insurance is covering it, and they are going to subjugate the guy to pay any deductible that he has too, so none of it is covered out of my pocket.

Stein - I am also worried about them trying to total it.

Joe Perez 05-12-2009 03:05 PM

Yeah, all the other parts are bolt-ons, but that rear quarter is gonna take some effort to get right.

If it were me, I'd at least have a conversation with the shop about cutting out and welding in a donor section, rather than trying to pull it out and reshape it with body filler. Check with a place that does restoration work with older cars rather than a typical Maaco-type place that does nothing but insurance work.

mrtonyg 05-12-2009 03:08 PM

And I will say it again...our cars are too small and they get lost behind larger cars in parking lots.

Got to park away from everyone else.

BenR 05-12-2009 03:09 PM

I'd be suprised if it wasn't a total loss.

sixshooter 05-12-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mrtonyg (Post 407729)
And I will say it again...our cars are too small and they get lost behind larger cars in parking lots.

Got to park away from everyone else.

A VW Golf is a compact car.

Trent 05-12-2009 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by BenR (Post 407730)
I'd be suprised if it wasn't a total loss.

it'll be close, but that rear quarter panel doesn't look that bad. They should be able to pull it out with a stud welder/puller to get it pretty close, then fill with a skim of filler. A good shop should be able to do that with very little filler.

New door, new fender, respray, and you're golden.

Stein 05-12-2009 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 407727)
If it were me, I'd at least have a conversation with the shop about cutting out and welding in a donor section, rather than trying to pull it out and reshape it with body filler. Check with a place that does restoration work with older cars rather than a typical Maaco-type place that does nothing but insurance work.


Agreed. Any more, most body shops are R&R shops as they can get the most $ per hour. Things that need real body work are tougher to find a good shop for. That may also influence some shops estimates. They throw a bunch of money at hoping that they can either A: not get the work, B: get enough to make it worth their while or C: farm that part out and still make a margin.

l_bader 05-12-2009 04:17 PM

If it is close to "totaled", and you feel confident in doing so, ask about a split repair. You replace the fender, door and quarter on your own, and then the body shop does the respray.

You should be able to find good panels for low $$$ and with a couple hours of your own effort, seriously cut the cost of the repair.

- L

Joe Perez 05-12-2009 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by l_bader (Post 407755)
(...) You replace the fender, door and quarter on your own, and then the body shop does the respray.

Unless the OP has a TIG welder (and a lot of experience doing thin sheet metal) replacing the rear quarter is going to be a job for the pros. It's not a bolt-on item.

The front fender and door would still be good ones to procure separately and hand over to the shop. If they're different colors, I'd suggest bringing them over separately, as it'll be far easier to re-spray them in the proper color if they're not attached to the car.

jayc72 05-12-2009 05:38 PM

I'm pretty sure that rear quarter is spot welded in. Don't think a TIG is needed for that :)

Joe Perez 05-12-2009 05:47 PM

Good point- I was thinking along the lines of cutting out just the damaged section. But I suppose you just just drill out all the spot welds and take the whole piece.

Re-installing it onto the car would still require a welder of some kind. I've no idea if the gun-type spot-welding attachments you sometimes see are adequate for this sort of work or now.

jayc72 05-12-2009 05:57 PM

I'd be damn tempted to try and automotive panel adhesive if you end up replacing the quarter. Wouldn't have to worry about damaging the existing paint or any warping either. Have the 1/4 panel painted off the car, then glue the bitch back on.

johndoe 05-12-2009 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 407814)
I'd be damn tempted to try and automotive panel adhesive if you end up replacing the quarter. Wouldn't have to worry about damaging the existing paint or any warping either. Have the 1/4 panel painted off the car, then glue the bitch back on.

Quarter panel isn't structural? I would have thought if it's welded it adds to the structure of the unibody.

BradC 05-12-2009 08:40 PM

I am perfectly comfy getting a painted fender or door to fit properly, helped assemble a few friend's classic cars (most of my friend's are Chevy/Ford guys), but damned if I am confident enough to deal with the rear quarter.

Plan is to take it to a local shop a friend had his car done at, they did great work and do tons of restorations and higher end stuff.

We shall see what the future holds, I am most worried about the insurance trying to write it off and dealing with that hassle.

It took awhle to find a chassis w/no rust, and nice paint...I don't want to have to start over.

jobambo 05-13-2009 03:38 AM

<Thread Jack>
Question, my car is salvaged. If this would of happened to me, how would the insurance value the repair on the car?
</Thead Jack>

FRT_Fun 05-13-2009 03:50 AM

I'm so scared of someone hitting my car :(

I am going to start bringing some road cones and some police tape and surrounding my car with it everywhere I park.

gaius49 05-14-2009 01:35 AM

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A good shop can work miracles. I was reended by a frined when I was stopped and he was going 35-40. Frame rail crumpled. Quarter panel folded. Trunk wouldn't open/close. Whole rear end was twisted. It was bad. for 5800 it came out like new. Insurance claimed the car's value to be 6000. It was a close one. Don't worry though, that doesn't look so bad at all.

Here is what mine looked like after the accident.

Yes, I looked at the frame diagrams, the rear quarter panels are structural, you don't replace them.

BradC 05-14-2009 10:00 AM

Got an estimate today, $2044.88 in damages.

Check was already cut, she'll be back.

Now to decide if I buy some over fenders while its in paint...

Stein 05-14-2009 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by BradC (Post 408455)
Got an estimate today, $2044.88 in damages.

Check was already cut, she'll be back.

Now to decide if I buy some over fenders while its in paint...

Wow, I guessed that within $45. Glad to hear it's going to work out for you.

jayc72 05-14-2009 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by gaius49 (Post 408385)
Yes, I looked at the frame diagrams, the rear quarter panels are structural, you don't replace them.

What are you talking about? The quarter panel is absolutely replaceable. Call a Mazda Dealer and get the part number. Is it bolt on? No, but that doesn't mean it can't be replaced. A body shop can and will replace it for you.

jayc72 05-14-2009 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by johndoe (Post 407871)
Quarter panel isn't structural? I would have thought if it's welded it adds to the structure of the unibody.

Having looked at it, I don't think it is. The inner structure that the 1/4 panel attaches too is, but the outer is just spot welded on.

BradC 05-14-2009 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 408462)
Wow, I guessed that within $45. Glad to hear it's going to work out for you.

Seriously, good call man!

Buuuut, they forgot to put in the damaged mirror and mirror glass, so you were a biiiit more off. Damn close though man!

Joe Perez 05-14-2009 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 408469)
What are you talking about? The quarter panel is absolutely replaceable. Call a Mazda Dealer and get the part number.

Good call.

From the NA collision guide:

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sexyKEVIN 05-14-2009 01:34 PM

could have been alot worse he could have just left .


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