Can you pinch my awful fat folds?
04-15-2013, 01:24 PM
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Can you pinch my awful fat folds?
Okay first of all, let's not turn this into a "aspartame kills you to death" thread. It seems to me that there is a correlation between diet soda consumption and overweight people. Obviously, diet soda is a zero cal drink, so in theory you could drink 2L of the stuff per day and never gain an ounce of fat (you might have some serious issues though).
The internet is flush with conflicting "evidence" on this topic. So, does your body's response to the taste cause a spike in sugar regulating chemical levels? Does this cause you to crave more carbs because your sugar levels drop too far due to the lack of glucose introduced by the diet soda?
Or is that all bullshit? Is the correlation simply that overweight people feel like they can drink lots of this stuff without feeling bad about it?
Discuss.
The internet is flush with conflicting "evidence" on this topic. So, does your body's response to the taste cause a spike in sugar regulating chemical levels? Does this cause you to crave more carbs because your sugar levels drop too far due to the lack of glucose introduced by the diet soda?
Or is that all bullshit? Is the correlation simply that overweight people feel like they can drink lots of this stuff without feeling bad about it?
Discuss.
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04-15-2013, 01:35 PM
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I would venture to guess that it is a mental thing. They feel bad about being fat, so they drink something they think will not contribute to the fat. Makes them feel better about drinking all that soda.
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04-15-2013, 01:36 PM
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Calories all bullshit, its an improper measurement, based on an old and flawed understanding of the human metabolism.
If I were to pinpoint a source of fatness, I would say it was sugar and gluten.
If I were to pinpoint a source of fatness, I would say it was sugar and gluten.
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04-15-2013, 01:53 PM
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"Rabble rabble rabble."
You've read conflicting internet opinions, so you turn to a bunch of non-experts on an internet message board to gather their opinions?
I can say this with a high level of conviction: Diet soda alone does not make you fat.
You've read conflicting internet opinions, so you turn to a bunch of non-experts on an internet message board to gather their opinions?
I can say this with a high level of conviction: Diet soda alone does not make you fat.
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04-15-2013, 02:06 PM
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FTB gets it.
Drink water, not soda.
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04-15-2013, 02:16 PM
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Supposition:
There are no studies or proven theories that can completely explain the link between the things that go in your mouth and the fat in your ***.
Corrollary:
There is no single contirbutor to the human diet that is specifically responsible for your health. Humanity does not fully understand the synergistic relationships between the foods and/or chemicals we consume. And suggesting that one or some subset of these is directly responsible for any condition is somewhat ignorant or naive.
We can draw some conclusions about patterns that form in large populations of data samples, but with so much uncontrollable variance in any dietary study, very little is conclusive.
... btw apparently sugar doesn't make you hyper either.
There are no studies or proven theories that can completely explain the link between the things that go in your mouth and the fat in your ***.
Corrollary:
There is no single contirbutor to the human diet that is specifically responsible for your health. Humanity does not fully understand the synergistic relationships between the foods and/or chemicals we consume. And suggesting that one or some subset of these is directly responsible for any condition is somewhat ignorant or naive.
We can draw some conclusions about patterns that form in large populations of data samples, but with so much uncontrollable variance in any dietary study, very little is conclusive.
... btw apparently sugar doesn't make you hyper either.
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04-15-2013, 02:33 PM
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I have been known to knock down about 48 oz over the course of one day of Coca-Cola Classic, enhanced with a molasses and grain based liquid. I have six-pack abs (if I flex and you squint and the lighting is just right), can run a 5K in under 28 minutes, and can bench/deadlift/squat more than my body weight.
Therefore, drinking a bunch of Cuba Libres is the key to physical fitness.
Therefore, drinking a bunch of Cuba Libres is the key to physical fitness.
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04-15-2013, 03:11 PM
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This is not science:
I did X and X didn't make me fat/dead/grow-a-third-arm, so therefore X must be ok!
examples:
See cuz what about all those dead kids and grandmas that DID all that stuff too?
Also what if you're holding yourself back from true potential by doing that stuff? Say you gave up coke, Scrappy. You might could have SEVEN pack abs.
maybe the "good enough status quo" is responsible for global shittiness and mediocrity. What if we're all just failed supergeniuses because we drink ******* soda pops.
I did X and X didn't make me fat/dead/grow-a-third-arm, so therefore X must be ok!
examples:
I rode in a car without a child seat or seatbelt and I'm not dead, so it must be safe!
When we were kids we didn't wear helmets on bikes so it must be safe!
My grandma smokes 37 packs of cigs a day and she's 82 so it must be safe!
I drink 48 oz of Coke Classic and have sish-pack abs so it must be safe!
Also what if you're holding yourself back from true potential by doing that stuff? Say you gave up coke, Scrappy. You might could have SEVEN pack abs.
maybe the "good enough status quo" is responsible for global shittiness and mediocrity. What if we're all just failed supergeniuses because we drink ******* soda pops.
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04-15-2013, 03:31 PM
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Fructose (in table sugar and HFCS), is a slow toxin.
(Though fiber in whole fruit temper its effects)
Long version (1:30+)
Summary (11 minutes)
It turns directly into fat, and its metabolic byproducts promote obesity, gout and hypertension.
(Though fiber in whole fruit temper its effects)
Long version (1:30+)
Summary (11 minutes)
It turns directly into fat, and its metabolic byproducts promote obesity, gout and hypertension.
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04-15-2013, 03:46 PM
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Correlation = causation, especially with a data set of 1. After all,
A) On some Saturdays, I drink Appleton Estates with Coke in
B) I have sish-pack abs
That is a 100% correlation. You can't argue with that kind of science.
The laws of symmetry in human beauty tell me that seven would be an undesireable number for my pack of abs.
That said, when I was in (literal) fighting shape, I think I did have an 8-pack and there was no squinting or special lighting required. I don't think I drank any alcohol and I was down to about 4-6 oz of Coke per day at max.
I also biked about 30 miles and did like 9 hours of HIIT per week but I can't imagine that was in any way related.
In all seriousness, I'm with Y8s in that it's awfully nuanced and complicated. I would also argue that genetics must be a pretty big factor because I would be willing to bet that if you put me and an "endomorph" on the same diet and workout routine, I'd end up in better (aesthetic) shape.
A) On some Saturdays, I drink Appleton Estates with Coke in
B) I have sish-pack abs
That is a 100% correlation. You can't argue with that kind of science.
Also what if you're holding yourself back from true potential by doing that stuff? Say you gave up coke, Scrappy. You might could have SEVEN pack abs.
That said, when I was in (literal) fighting shape, I think I did have an 8-pack and there was no squinting or special lighting required. I don't think I drank any alcohol and I was down to about 4-6 oz of Coke per day at max.
I also biked about 30 miles and did like 9 hours of HIIT per week but I can't imagine that was in any way related.
In all seriousness, I'm with Y8s in that it's awfully nuanced and complicated. I would also argue that genetics must be a pretty big factor because I would be willing to bet that if you put me and an "endomorph" on the same diet and workout routine, I'd end up in better (aesthetic) shape.
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