sig heil!
actually the new ones look nice. there's one new one and one old one (both coupes) parked in our lot frequently and the new one has grown on me more than the old cute one. and smooth cruiser sounds nice once you're over 30. |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 440849)
smooth cruiser sounds nice once you're over 30.
I'm 44 and daily driving my 94 Miata. Tein RA suspension (their full race stuff from a couple years back) 225/45 rs2's. It's a rough riding SOB. The Audi is the wife's! http://www.sunsetimports.com/carspot...91004480_1.jpg http://www.sunsetimports.com/carspot...1004480_14.jpg http://www.sunsetimports.com/carspot...91004480_8.jpg |
Originally Posted by cueball1
(Post 440842)
Thanks Obama! It's nice getting $4500 for a $500 POS Aerostar with a blown head gasket, leaky power steering unit, moldy interior, etc.
Obama? I just paid about $0.00003 of your car. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 440877)
Obama? I just paid about $0.00003 of your car.
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Well thank you and all the others here too! A big thanks to the major tax payers like Bill Gates and big corporations!
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Originally Posted by thymer
(Post 440879)
Thanks, I was trying to make that point earlier....
Entitlement is a bitch. I wish I had the ego. |
whatever. you paid for the roads he drives it on too. sorry, SHE.
incidentally, I'll never own another black car. |
Black. nothing looks better clean, nothing looks worse dirty and certainly nothing else shows flaws like black.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 440883)
Entitlement is a bitch. I wish I had the ego.
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where's mine? The DD I want to trade in makes 19 combined. There should be trade in for "Clunkettes."
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i think the cash for clunkers also has to do with the fact that newer cars emit far less pollutants the the cars of almost 2 decades ago;its not just about mpg... hence why they still give the majority of the refund (3500$ i believe?) for older cars that get BETTER gas mileage then the newly purchased car.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 440877)
Obama? I just paid about $0.00003 of your car.
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Wow
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 444697)
I think it's cute that you actually think you pay your fair share of taxes in this country. Don't flatter yourself.
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For Tax Year 2007 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $410,096 40.42% Top 5% $160,041 60.63% Top 10% $113,018 71.22% Top 25% $66,532 86.59% Top 50% $32,879 97.11% Bottom 50% <$32,879 2.89% Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service Top 1% pay 40% of the total income tax collected ($410K +) Top 2-5% pay 20% ($160K to $409K) Top 6-10% pay 10% ($113K to $159 Top 11-25% pay 15% ($66K to $112K) Top 26-50% pay 11% ($32K to $65K) Bottom 50% makes less than $32K and pays 3% of total income taxes collected. 75% of the population pays less than 15% of the income taxes collected. Bump that to the lower 90% and the total is 30%. Boy those rich guys get all the breaks. (read intense sarcasm here) Looking at those numbers and where I fall on that chart, I don't feel the least bit guilty taking some money back on the CARS program. I AM paying my fair share + some. |
i'm gonna say it again. because nobody ever posts it. cost of living is a regressive expense. hence the progressive tax. years worth of food for poor guy might be 20% of his salary whereas it's more like 2% of rich guy's salary.
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As one of the single digiters per Cueball's chart, I really do get pissed off about the entitlement thing. I started with nothing, grew up on a farm, don't have a degree and managed to get my shit together without the help of anyone else. Anyone can if they put their mind to it.
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Yes cost of living is regressive. Food, shelter, etc. You also have the blood from a turnip concept and diminishing returns. It's too darn hard to collect and too little payoff for trying with the lower 50%. Still, it makes me sick when I hear people say rich people get all the breaks. Hell, it's not just the rich but the upper middle class that foots a huge portion of the tax burden. I hate it when liberals in gov't and media demonize those who are making a good living.
I'm not ashamed to be taking advantage of the CARS program. It's one of the few givebacks that the middle and upper classes can take advantage of on an equal footing. I'm as deserving as anyone else who has a clunker to trade in. It's not a sense of entitlement. It takes a clunker off the road, stimulates the economy and is putting my wife in a more efficient car. It's exactly what that program hoped to do. |
You don't have to defend your case with me cueball.
My little sister just took advantage of the program as well. She's a single mom with a 1 1/2yr old that was driving a ratty Astro van with a dying transmission and a coolant leak...but kept it legal and kept it covered. Driving it was like skiing on a barstool. She can make the payments on a new Corolla after cashing in on the program...and it's a good thing she's in a safer, more efficient and dependable vehicle. I got to see my nephew for the first time in months yesterday because she would make the trip from Beaumont in the old vehicle. There are a few people this program is really made for...and those people shouldn't feel bad about doing it. |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 444766)
i'm gonna say it again. because nobody ever posts it. cost of living is a regressive expense. hence the progressive tax. years worth of food for poor guy might be 20% of his salary whereas it's more like 2% of
rich guy's salary. |
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