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kotomile 04-11-2008 01:33 PM

A chain is only as strong as...
 
...its weakest link.

http://www.orlandoforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=93166

http://s90214777.onlinehome.us/clutchexploded14.jpg

hackerchris 04-11-2008 01:40 PM

So, more of a reason to not go making a tuner out of a crappy car. Bad things happen. :owned:

levnubhin 04-11-2008 01:44 PM

Good lord. Btw you title and the pic you posted made me think his timing chain broke.*


(dont know if Noens use chains or belts)
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Ben 04-11-2008 01:45 PM

That's not your car is it?

Joe Perez 04-11-2008 01:50 PM

:eek5:

I've heard of exploding clutches before, but that's the first time I've actually seen it. Hard to tell what's what from the pictures. It looks like the flywheel itself was the weak link, yet in the underneath shots, the ring gear is still attached to the engine. Are they separate pieces on a Neon?

Braineack 04-11-2008 01:57 PM


Today I finally raised the rev limit on the Orange to 8000 (EMS, forged pistons, rods and BC3 cams). I've shifted at 7500-7700 a few times today; no more than 15 max, and only twice at 8000 (to get it on video). I was on the way home tonight, got the itch and stood on it in third gear.

At ~7700, I started pushing the clutch pedal down. About a quarter of the way down, the clutch pedal went limp and slammed to the floor. At the same time, I watched something shoot through the hood, the engine died and a smoke trail followed me until I pulled over to the side of the road. Luckily, the smoke was from the transmission fluid covering the exhaust, not a fire.

I called AAA for a tow, then collected pieces of the DCR stage II clutch from the roadway while waiting. The transmission, clutch, intake manifold, radiator fans, radiator, hood and engine harness are destroyed. My friends saw the whole thing from about 100 feet back. Lots of sparks, parts flying, tranny fluid everywhere. The clutch had about 2000 miles on it.
needs more ATI Super Damper....

ArtieParty 04-11-2008 02:13 PM

i used to have a 94 saab 9-3 and my mechanic said that i "shattered" the clutch. also said he never saw anything like that before. i was proud of myself at that point.

SamS 04-11-2008 02:23 PM

The clutch on my GTI broke on my way back up to school after spring break a few weeks ago. It wasn't nearly that destructive, but it was a pain in the ass driving the last 100 miles without a working clutch pedal, not to mention the $1450 bill to replace it. I've never even chirped the tires or driven that car hard, damn VW's.

Joe Perez 04-11-2008 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 241700)
The clutch on my GTI broke (...) not to mention the $1450 bill to replace it.

:eek5:

SamS 04-11-2008 03:14 PM

Yeah, half of it was labor, the other half was dealer prices on parts. It sucks being 300 miles from home and my garage sometimes, there was no way I was going to drop the trans in the dorm parking lot.

Atlanta93LE 04-11-2008 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 241715)
Yeah, half of it was labor, the other half was dealer prices on parts. It sucks being 300 miles from home and my garage sometimes, there was no way I was going to drop the trans in the dorm parking lot.

I swapped an Alfa motor under a tree in a parking lot using a chain hooked over a branch. You pussy ;)

SamS 04-11-2008 03:33 PM

:giggle: 7 hours of labor in a shop with a lift = a whole lot more hours in a 30 degree snow/ice/salt/sand covered parking lot.

Atlanta93LE 04-11-2008 03:38 PM

It'd put hair on your chest.

kotomile 04-11-2008 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 241678)
That's not your car is it?

Heh, no. Mine's silver and doesn't have any speed holes. :bowrofl:

kotomile 04-11-2008 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 241676)
Good lord. Btw you title and the pic you posted made me think his timing chain broke.*


(dont know if Noens use chains or belts)

Metaphorical chain :giggle:

They have a belt.

hustler 04-11-2008 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE (Post 241719)
I swapped an Alfa motor under a tree in a parking lot using a chain hooked over a branch. You pussy ;)

:bowrofl:

jsisco 04-11-2008 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE (Post 241719)
I swapped an Alfa motor under a tree in a parking lot using a chain hooked over a branch. You pussy ;)

That's the great thing about old air-cooled V-dubs and Porsches. You can drop the engine anywhere with a floor jack.

Arkmage 04-11-2008 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by jsisco (Post 241767)
That's the great thing about old air-cooled V-dubs and Porsches. You can drop the engine anywhere with a floor jack.

and a crescent wrench

Savington 04-11-2008 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by jsisco (Post 241767)
That's the great thing about old air-cooled V-dubs and Porsches. You can drop the engine anywhere with a floor jack.

I can vouch for this. Watched a guy do it in the dorm parking lot a couple months ago.

You pussy. ;)

Joe Perez 04-11-2008 08:27 PM

Hell, I did the exact same thing back in college- in the parking garage on NorthSouth drive just past Hume Hall (may it rest in peace) at UF. It attracted the attention of the university police who required that we prove ownership of the vehicle in question, and suggested that the parking garage was not an appropriate location for major automotive repair.

If I recall correctly, you need two jackstands and some lumber to prop the tail end up in the air, a screwdriver to disconnect the clamp on the fuel line and the throttle cable, a piece of bailing wire to tie the wiring harness up to the decklid hinge, one 13mm (or was it 15mm?) open-end wrench to pull the four bolts holding the engine to the transmission, and a floor jack with a piece of 1x6 on the saddle to lower the engine out. Two men, one hour.


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