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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 696773)
running NCSA Mosaic (holy shit! The Web with PICTURES! This was heady stuff at the time)
Hell yes!!! I so rarely come across anyone who has ever heard of this, let alone used it. The last programming seminar I attended (Silverlight, ugh), even the "teacher" had never heard of Mosaic or been online before the Netscape days. Anyways, great story, OP. Fabrication or not, it was well written. And awesome to read on a png. |
Anyone remember his Fidonet address?
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Originally Posted by revlimiter
(Post 697739)
The last programming seminar I attended (Silverlight, ugh), even the "teacher" had never heard of Mosaic or been online before the Netscape days.
I actually resisted Mosaic for a long time. Compared to Lynx, it was fairly sluggish, especially if you had encountered a page with images. Remember when the background attribute was first added to <body>, and every living human suddenly felt the need to add a needlessly large and garish background to their webpage? That made life suck very badly if you were connecting via PPP through TIA through a 4800 baud connection. Sloooooooooooooooooow. Between Lynx and Pine, that was pretty much all the internet I needed until about '96 or so.
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 697740)
Anyone remember his Fidonet address?
I honestly don't recall that the BBS I used to access Fidonet (Castle of Atlantis, running Wildcat on a 286) supported Fidonet email. It might have, I just don't recall ever using it. I used Fido for echomail, which was roughly analogous to a modern-day web forum (or to usenet, for you old-timers.) |
Ah, Pine. It was superior to Elm. I even had PC-Pine for my university dial-up email access. Those were the good ol' days.
And I believe the system I'm typing on at this moment has lynx. =) I've not used it for a little while. Not since I last wanted to test a site without a CSS skin applied. I entertained my coworkers just last Friday by using FTP from a windows command line. And, if confronted with one, I think I could still type SMTP commands into a telnet window... |
AHH PINE. Fuck yah sweet pine! That shit was awesome. I should install that and use it again. Fuck that is all that is needed for email.
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Originally Posted by revlimiter
(Post 697806)
Ah, Pine. It was superior to Elm. I even had PC-Pine for my university dial-up email access.
Aah, my first exposure to recursive acronyms. You know, there are a lot of things that I genuinely do miss about that era in computing. In many ways, it was simpler. Realistically speaking, Pine was so much faster and more responsive then Outlook is today, despite the fact that my little desktop PC is orders of magnitude faster than the ole' VAX. On the other hand, I now have the ability to do things like insert images inline with a posting, from a device that weighs 8 ounces and fits in the palm of my hand, while sitting on the toilet, in an airport. I entertained my coworkers just last Friday by using FTP from a windows command line. Anyway, I'm rambling. Long story short if that when you are configuring a machine by hand (eg: in the lab for testing) and need to do something simple to the machine, like command it to read the config file you just uploaded, you just type "Literal Init Router" and it does it. In this case, "Init" is the instruction, and "Router" is a modifier that tells the machine what part of the system to reinitialize. We also have a Literal Reset command, and a facility for remotely executing macros by "Literal xxx.MAC" where xxx is the filename of the macro. For some odd reason, most of the hardware guys in the lab equate the use of the command line in this way to be tantamount to wizardly hacking. Goes to show you how much times have changed, I guess. (Bear in mind, a few of these guys grew up with punched cards, so I really don't see why this is odd.) And, if confronted with one, I think I could still type SMTP commands into a telnet window... Man, I'd forgotten all about that until now. I wonder how much other rusty old crap is rolling around in my head? |
Originally Posted by revlimiter
(Post 697806)
And, if confronted with one, I think I could still type SMTP commands into a telnet window...
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You've never really lived...
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...until you wrote code and JCL on these:
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...or one of these...
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Shit I remember when floppy disks were floppy. You know, like FLACCID. 8" flaccid disks.
Go ahead baby, insert your 8" flaccid disk into my slot... I remember the TRS-80. And the Apple 2. And playing with BASIC on some IBM terminals when I was 11... |
telnet ea.oac.uci.edu
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
(Post 697826)
AHH PINE. Fuck yah sweet pine! That shit was awesome. I should install that and use it again. Fuck that is all that is needed for email.
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Originally Posted by kenzo42
(Post 699141)
telnet ea.oac.uci.edu
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What the fuck?
I just realized that Win7 doesn't include a command-line telnet application! |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 699180)
What the fuck?
I just realized that Win7 doesn't include a command-line telnet application! or use hyperterminal. |
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I've already got TeraTerm (I use it for all my RS-232 terminal work), I'm just accustomed to being able to hit Attachment 241304-R and then type "Telnet xxx" and be instantly connected. Having to first open an application by doing several mouse clicks, and then use the mouse to click on several more buttons to go through a whole "connect to..." dialog just needlessly slows me down.
They still support the command-line FTP client (I'd have thrown my Win7 disc out the window on day 1 if that were gone) so what the hell was gained by ditching the telnet client? Why the fuck does Windows have to punish me for preferring keyboard shortcuts and command-line applications vs. pushing a mouse around to accomplish the same task in more time? Sidebar: Did you know that you can buy a keyboard with a Tux key? http://farm1.static.flickr.com/7/113...b964ca84_z.jpg No, that's not a Photochop. You can buy it here: http://zareason.com/shop/Tux-Keyboard.html?page=1 |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 699205)
I've already got TeraTerm (I use it for all my RS-232 terminal work), I'm just accustomed to being able to hit
Make an alias/shortcut/symlink to ttermpro.exe and call it telnet.exe Save it in the tterm directory Right click on my computer/properties/environment variables/path and add the tterm folder to the path (seperate with semicolon) Then kill and restart explorer Then do winkey/R and type telnet and the flags: Command line (shortcut link) format TTERMPRO (replace with telnet) [<host>[[:]<TCP port#>]] [/B] [/C=<serial port#>] [/F=<setup file>] [/FD=<file transfer directory>] [/H] [/I] [/K=<keyboard setup file>] [/KR=<kanji code (receive)>] [/KT=<kanji code (transmit)>] [/L=<log file>] [/LA=<language>] [/M=<macro file>] [/P=<TCP port#>] [/R=<replay file>] [/T=<telnet flag>] [/V] [/W="<window title>"] [/X=<window pos (x)] [/Y=<window pos (y)] [;<comment>] :) In short tterm can be initiated from windows run or cli and open a session with a port. |
Originally Posted by Faeflora
(Post 699210)
OK hopefully this helps:
Make an alias/shortcut/symlink to ttermpro.exe and call it telnet.exe Save it in the tterm directory Right click on my computer/properties/environment variables/path and add the tterm folder to the path (seperate with semicolon) Then kill and restart explorer Then do winkey/R and type telnet and the flags: Command line (shortcut link) format TTERMPRO (replace with telnet) [<host>[[:]<TCP port#>]] [/B] [/C=<serial port#>] [/F=<setup file>] [/FD=<file transfer directory>] [/H] [/I] [/K=<keyboard setup file>] [/KR=<kanji code (receive)>] [/KT=<kanji code (transmit)>] [/L=<log file>] [/LA=<language>] [/M=<macro file>] [/P=<TCP port#>] [/R=<replay file>] [/T=<telnet flag>] [/V] [/W="<window title>"] [/X=<window pos (x)] [/Y=<window pos (y)] [;<comment>] :) In short tterm can be initiated from windows run or cli and open a session with a port. Start-> Control Panel->Programs & Features-> Turn Windows Components On/Off -> Enable telnet LIKE A BOSS. Why Microsoft didn't make this a default is beyond me. |
Jeff is the man.
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