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Vashthestampede 09-19-2011 01:06 PM

DD shut off in traffic again!*%^>~
 
It happened last Friday but it started up again after 20 tries. This time it shut off right in a busy 4 way intersection and I had to push it myself and then jump in and steer it into the gas station. Now I'm just waiting for the tow truck.

It's a 2003 Ford Taurus. It cranks and cranks with plenty of juice, it just won't turn over. It likes to shut off when coasting to a stop. Just randomly stalls.

Any ideas what to look for? Distributed cap? Starter? Grounds?

Looks like I'll be DD'ing the miata again. Which overheats every time I drive it. Lol

shuiend 09-19-2011 01:11 PM

People are dicks in CT if they did not help push your car.

Back last December I was going to a job interview in my Integra. I was making a left hand turn and the car just died. The igniter died on me. I immediately put on my hazards and jumped out to start pushing my car. The 2 cars behind me instantly also threw on their hazards and got out to help me push my car to the side. Sitting on the side of the road waiting for a ride to come pick me up so that I could get home and get in my Miata, 2 more cars stopped and asked if I needed any help. People in the south to seem to be much more helpful in times of need like that.

Bond 09-19-2011 01:13 PM

Vaccum leak, dirty TB, Bad ground, who fucking knows.

What does "it cranks but doesn't turn over" mean...

My exgf had a mercury Sable that would stall all the time. Scary as shit.

DangBroski 09-19-2011 01:19 PM

PUT THAT BEAST ON C.L. and dump the money into your MIATAAAAHHH hells yeah dawg!!!

miatauser884 09-19-2011 01:46 PM



faulty fuel kill switch in trunk?

Bond 09-19-2011 01:47 PM

I couldn't tell if he was a troll, or just from Florida....

MartinezA92 09-19-2011 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 773039)

faulty fuel kill switch in trunk?

I was thinking of this. There is a Focus at my school that will stop running if you slam the door too hard.


Check for spark?

rleete 09-19-2011 02:14 PM

My Jeep did this, stalling while going 65 on the expressway. Turns out it was clogged cats causing backpressure and misfires, and a bad crank angle sensor not letting it recover from the misfires.

Chrysler picked up the cost of the cats (over $1800) and I bought and installed the sensor. I put in a cam angle sensor as well, just in case.

Check the sensors, including the o2 ones.

miatauser884 09-19-2011 02:23 PM

There was a big thread on m.net about the CAS causing this exact problem on later miatas. Not sure how it translates to other cars.

Braineack 09-19-2011 02:24 PM

my rotor fell off my distributor once...but car would never start again.

jacob300zx 09-19-2011 03:14 PM

I think the real question is why are you driving a Ford Taurus?

Vashthestampede 09-19-2011 03:29 PM

Thanks for the ideas guys.

The exhaust is pretty fucked, so I'm wondering if clogged cats is a possibility.

I'm driving the taurus cause I got it for $1700 last year around this time. I'm seriously thinking about trading it in for whatever they'll give me and getting a Subaru Legacy GT. I've been wanting one, but I dont want the payment.

In the meantime I'll drive the miata and pray it doesn't overheat until I can figure out what to do about the taurus. Which BTW, has started up 20 times since the tow truck dropped me off. Starts up no problem now. :vash:

miatauser884 09-19-2011 03:37 PM

order generic cat from performance peddler, and then have it welded on. If you can confirm it's the cat. You replace fuel filter?

miatauser884 09-19-2011 03:39 PM

Had a subie that would do that shit and it ended up being the fuel filter. Once all the shit settled in filter it would start up, then as fuel sloshed it around it would clog filter again and car would die.

Vashthestampede 09-19-2011 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 773082)
order generic cat from performance peddler, and then have it welded on. If you can confirm it's the cat. You replace fuel filter?

The only things I've done to the car have been unrelated to the drivetrain (suspension, replaced bent wheel, etc), besides changing the oil.

Its just weird how it randomly stalls out on me like that. Its always when stopped though. It hasn't turned off on me while driving. Only when at a red light or backing out of the driveway and going to put it in drive.

When it first started happening it would turn back on usually the 1st or 2nd try.

Vashthestampede 09-19-2011 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 773084)
Had a subie that would do that shit and it ended up being the fuel filter. Once all the shit settled in filter it would start up, then as fuel sloshed it around it would clog filter again and car would die.

Hmmmm. I'm going to order one as we speak.

I think this car did a lot of sitting before I bought it, so it could very well end up being as simple as the fuel filter.

Thanks for the idea. :bigtu:

Vashthestampede 09-19-2011 04:15 PM

Just ordered a fuel filter and a CAS for the taurus. They should be here later tonight but I wont have a chance to work on it until tomorrow.

I also had him send me a new radiator cap to see if that solves the miata's overheating problems. Wishful thinking I know.

chpmnsws6 09-19-2011 04:38 PM

Check fuel pressure on the Ford.

Throwing an SES light?

Pressure test the Miata's cooling system.

pusha 09-20-2011 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by DangBroski (Post 773027)
PUT THAT BEAST ON C.L. and dump the money into your MIATAAAAHHH hells yeah dawg!!!

we should have kept this guy around

chiefmg 09-20-2011 06:57 AM

I have a friend with a Taurus wagon (don't recall the year but it's a second gen) and her fuel pump went out. Car would crank but not fire. I did some checking and figured out it was the pump, unfortunately Ford has to be different and not provide an opening inside the car to use to change it, you have to drop the gas tank.

NA6C-Guy 09-20-2011 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 773021)
People are dicks in CT if they did not help push your car.

Back last December I was going to a job interview in my Integra. I was making a left hand turn and the car just died. The igniter died on me. I immediately put on my hazards and jumped out to start pushing my car. The 2 cars behind me instantly also threw on their hazards and got out to help me push my car to the side. Sitting on the side of the road waiting for a ride to come pick me up so that I could get home and get in my Miata, 2 more cars stopped and asked if I needed any help. People in the south to seem to be much more helpful in times of need like that.

The only good thing about the South... though in return you have to deal with a little more ignorance and stupidity.

bluemax 09-20-2011 10:26 AM

Have you googled 2003 taurus stalls in traffic? There's all kinds of posts out there. I'd dump that POS and get something else. Life is too short to drive a fucking ford tortoise.

Vashthestampede 09-20-2011 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by bluemax (Post 773435)
Have you googled 2003 taurus stalls in traffic? There's all kinds of posts out there. I'd dump that POS and get something else. Life is too short to drive a fucking ford tortoise.

I'm on the taurusclub forum as we speak looking for a solution. Most forums are not like MT though and its quite a challenge to find an actual answer to the problem.

So far people have suggested the fuel filter, CAS, PCM relay, bad starter, bad alternator, vacuum leak, etc etc. I was hoping to find a few people that have the same exact problem with some type of solution to the problem.

I got the car on the road (purchase price, tax, reg) for under $2k, so its not exactly my prized possession. I needed something other than the miata to get me around and at the time it was the best thing I could find in the price range I was working with.

Now I'm thinking about getting a used LGT. I just worry cause working for myself and not knowing the certainty of my week to week income has me hesitant to put another bill on the table. At the very least I need to get the Ford back on the road until I figure out what to do.

bluemax 09-20-2011 02:14 PM

I guess what I would do would be to start replacing the cheap stuff and work my way up. You could probably replace a lot of stuff yourself for cheaper than taking it somewhere and having them tell you nothing is wrong and still charging you a diagnostic fee.

Vashthestampede 09-20-2011 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by bluemax (Post 773538)
I guess what I would do would be to start replacing the cheap stuff and work my way up. You could probably replace a lot of stuff yourself for cheaper than taking it somewhere and having them tell you nothing is wrong and still charging you a diagnostic fee.

One of the guys on the taurus forum is suggesting the fuel pump is bad. I don't know how much of a pain in the ass it is to do a fuel pump on one, but I think it requires dropping the tank.

I'll do whatever work that has to be done, I'd just rather fix what needs fixed rather than throwing parts at the car.

Clos561 09-20-2011 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 773082)
order generic cat from performance peddler, and then have it welded on. If you can confirm it's the cat. You replace fuel filter?

i guessed something along these lines. you said it likes to stall when your coasting to a stop which means the fuel would be going to the front of the gas tank and maybe that is why the car stalls? does it do this when you have above half a tank or below? could this cause air to get into lines and run dry until he cranks it enough?

Bryce 09-20-2011 03:24 PM

If its like most cars I've dealt with, the fuel pump will run for a second or two when you turn the key On. Next time it stalls, listen for the fuel pump.

pusha 09-20-2011 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 773449)
Now I'm thinking about getting a used LGT. I just worry cause working for myself and not knowing the certainty of my week to week income has me hesitant to put another bill on the table. At the very least I need to get the Ford back on the road until I figure out what to do.

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Vashthestampede 09-20-2011 05:16 PM

^^^^^

Bitch I got eight balls.

chpmnsws6 09-21-2011 06:41 PM

Have you checked fuel pressure yet?


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