Dear God, Please show pitty for mankind.
What the...? Yes, pregnant man is expecting baby in July
An Oregon transgendered man who used to be a woman says he is five-months pregnant. Thomas Beatie, who's expecting a girl, tells his story in a first-person account published in 'The Advocate' magazine. Beatie is legally a male and lives with his wife, Nancy. He claims to have stopped taking his testosterone injections to get pregnant, and that conception was achieved through home insemination. "Sterilization is not a requirement for sex reassignment, so I decided to have chest reconstruction and testosterone therapy but kept my reproductive rights," he writes in the article for the gay and lesbian magazine. Beatie is expected to give birth in July. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sfl...,6467136.story __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
Certainly the first sign of the Apocalypse.
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How is it he can be declared legally a male, but didn't give up the equipment? He's not really male, then.
If your wife gets a strap-on, is she a male, too? Kind of silly, if you ask me.* *And yes, I realize no one asked me. I'll shut up now. |
Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 233904)
Certainly the first sign of the Apocalypse.
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Wtf
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so its not really anything strange. its a woman having a child....that just happen to have a male chest.
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Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 233909)
How is it he can be declared legally a male, but didn't give up the equipment? He's not really male, then.
If your wife gets a strap-on, is she a male, too? Kind of silly, if you ask me.* *And yes, I realize no one asked me. I'll shut up now. |
That kid is fucked....:bowrofl:
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Im still trying to understand why a woman would want to be with a woman who wants to be a man.
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
(Post 233929)
Im still trying to understand why a woman would want to be with a woman who wants to be a man.
Or something like that. At any rate I don't think you should be breeding after having one through sex change, partial or not. How much is that going to fuck that kit up. The first time the kid sees his "daddy" naked is going to be a very interesting conversation. |
Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 233926)
This is the part of the story that you question?
I agree that gay couples can raise kids as well as anyone else, but this is just too strange, and I think this kid is gonna have a very confused life. |
wtf...fail.
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Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 233909)
How is it he can be declared legally a male, but didn't give up the equipment?
We have a newly crowned Tranny at work. The Boss had to assign one of the bathrooms to be transgender. Now anyone can use it. |
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Paging Hustler! This should right down his alley.
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hey guys way to be intolerant. you should be proud.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 234316)
hey guys way to be intolerant. you should be proud.
+1 I do not see how it effects me so he/she can do whatever he/she wants. I don't think there is any way we can know how this kid is going to turn out. It's human nature to fear or hate what we don't understand. this sounds like one of those cases. |
should we break out the sticks, picks and torches?
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Guess I'm a judgmental fuck then. I'm comfortable with that, as a parent I find this sort of thing reckless. We do NOT live in a very enlightened society, this child is going to have some issues I promise you.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 234316)
hey guys way to be intolerant. you should be proud.
In my world view (agree or not), men have a penis and don't give birth. You want to change your body, then fine you have to live with it. As soon as you add a kid to the mix, it is not longer all about you. |
lol @ embracing dysfunction. If by dysfunction you mean scoffing at something other than the norm then i guess youre right. do you also not like couples that divorce with kids? or single mothers?
i dont see a problem here, 2 ppl in love have a kid yada yada. |
Originally Posted by teknikscian
(Post 234341)
lol @ embracing dysfunction. If by dysfunction you mean scoffing at something other than the norm then i guess youre right. do you also not like couples that divorce with kids? or single mothers?
i dont see a problem here, 2 ppl in love have a kid yada yada. In other words it's his dysfunction that is the issue not theirs. |
That's a pretty big leap to make. A pregnant tranny (or whatever the female equivalent is) who's whoring himself to the media, to a divorced couple or a single mother.
Life isn't that clearly black and white. i dont see a problem here, 2 ppl in love have a kid yada yada. |
Originally Posted by MX5-4me
(Post 234346)
His problem is that it doesn't fit his idea of what is right.
In other words it's his dysfunction that is the issue not theirs. Everytime we try to reinvent the idea of a family, it gets fucked up. I'm not a redneck honest. |
Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 234340)
Proud of what? Embracing dysfunction? No thank you. It isn't enough that they are doing this, but that they are media whoring as well.
In my world view (agree or not), men have a penis and don't give birth. You want to change your body, then fine you have to live with it. As soon as you add a kid to the mix, it is not longer all about you. bash for media whoring all you want. I'm saying that there's lots of different things to be and just because you dont agree, it doesn't make it wrong. How long ago was it that it was unthinkable to be born out of wedlock? Or how people would be shunned for getting a divorce--if they even could. In 50 years society will be dealing with even more bizzare scenarios than this and look back and say "remember when it was just tranny men having babies? life was so simple." So people disagree with the lifestyle. That doesn't guarantee bad parenting. And yes, there will be lots of long conversations in that family. |
Ask yoursselves this.... How would you like to find out one day that your father is technically your mother and you came out of her and the woman who you thought was your mother isnt even blood related. I think its irresponsible of these people. Im not against gay people, I have gay friends and some of my best neighbors are gay. But like Jay said when you involve children it changes this completely. We may not understand as adults but childern deffinately wont understand. I predict a very rough childhood for this kid.
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
(Post 234358)
Ask yoursselves this.... How would you like to find out one day that your father is technically your mother and you came out of her and the woman who you thought was your mother isnt even blood related. I think its irresponsible of these people. Im not against gay people, I have gay friends and some of my best neighbors are gay. But like Jay said when you involve children it changes this completely. We may not understand as adults but childern deffinately wont understand. I predict a very rough childhood for this kid.
I agree, this kid's gonna be fucked up, and it's not fair to him/her. But again, how is it any different than Bubba and Gina popping out their 5th kid, living in a trailer while being subsidized by welfare and gubbament cheese? Neither scenario favors success. |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 234357)
you seemed ok with it earlier in the thread...?
bash for media whoring all you want. I'm saying that there's lots of different things to be and just because you dont agree, it doesn't make it wrong. How long ago was it that it was unthinkable to be born out of wedlock? Or how people would be shunned for getting a divorce--if they even could. In 50 years society will be dealing with even more bizzare scenarios than this and look back and say "remember when it was just tranny men having babies? life was so simple." So people disagree with the lifestyle. That doesn't guarantee bad parenting. And yes, there will be lots of long conversations in that family. NOTE: I am not saying there is ANY relationship between one or the other. Sorry, just because it will become common doesn't make it right or good. Divorce is bad, but common. Single parent families aren't ideal, but common. Should we strive for the common or the ideal? How many kids of divorced parents have serious baggage resulting from the split? We make it too easy, imagine if walking away from your kids was as easy as dissolving a marriage. It would be an epidemic. I say this situation sucks and will be damaging for everyone involved. Not because I don't agree with the lifestyle. My thoughts or feelings on the lifestyle, or the morality of it have nothing to do with my stance on bringing up a child in a very difficult environment. I couldn't careless what people do. While a lot of people will say there is nothing wrong with what these people are doing, I will say there is nothing positive about it either. It's a minefield that most people will not be equipped to deal with. It doesn't mean that bad parenting will result, but the odds are strongly not in their favor. |
Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 234360)
Psychologically, how far detached is this scenario from finding out that you were adopted, ie your father isn't your father and your mother isn't your mother.
I agree, this kid's gonna be fucked up, and it's not fair to him/her. But again, how is it any different than Bubba and Gina popping out their 5th kid, living in a trailer while being subsidized by welfare and gubbament cheese? Neither scenario favors success. Its different because this kids father is actually his mother. __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
hey I think the kid has a leg up having two parents that are willing to go through all this for a their child. as you said, there's a bunch more fucked up situations to be in and this one, to me, doesn't seem so awful. weird, but not awful.
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I hope they home school the kid. Kids can be cruel and if other kids find out school wont be very pleasent.
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
(Post 234385)
Its different because this kids father is actually his mother.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 234386)
hey I think the kid has a leg up having two parents that are willing to go through all this for a their child. as you said, there's a bunch more fucked up situations to be in and this one, to me, doesn't seem so awful. weird, but not awful.
I feel that what they are doing is likely selfish with little thought to the child. They desire to have a child and it doesn't matter how difficult or hard they are doing to do it. You see it in regular straight people too. I don't think they are going through it for their child, but because THEY want to have a child. It's probably driven by a sense of entitlement, doesn't matter how different they are it is their right to breed. |
The news gets better and better :bowrofl::bowrofl:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/s...ectid=10500532 :bowrofl::bowrofl: |
Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 234339)
Guess I'm a judgmental fuck then. I'm comfortable with that, as a parent I find this sort of thing reckless. We do NOT live in a very enlightened society, this child is going to have some issues I promise you.
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does budlight give you the power to see the future now? I dont get how some people already tagging this child as "fucked up." now that right there ia naive. sure, it wont be easy but life isnt easy to begin with. For all you know this could give the child awesome character, tough skin and a very very open mind willing to accept all form of life and society... unlike several people.
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I don't drink Bud Light. My future seeing abilities are from years of drinking Maple Syrup and eating back bacon.
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Originally Posted by levnubhin
(Post 234387)
I hope they home school the kid. Kids can be cruel and if other kids find out school wont be very pleasent.
Homeschool? I have run into a few of those people who were homeschooled with NORMAL parents and they are very messed up, zero social skills. Kids can be cruel? Adults are much worse. |
homeschooling in California is about to be gone for good. the law is going (or already does) requires a teaching credential. ha ha ha on the evangelicals and their brainwashing of their kids!
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lol at some of the replies.
The way the world is, very simply put....the kid is fucked. I will never know him/her I am sure, but I would say that he/she will not live a very normal life and will in some way end up emotionally scarred from it. Saying that it might help grow a tough skin? That's what the military is for. I agree, men have a penis, and women have vagina's. People should do and will do whatever they want. But I agree with the earlier comment that they should not be rewarded. Think about how normal families can split and lose rights to their children and how the laws work against real and true parents. Yet laws apparently allow shit like this? I say bleck and ehick....but that's just MY opinion. We are still allowed to have those right? ;) Vash- |
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Tell me how many of you would give the kid of these parents a hard time if you met him. I'm curious.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 234655)
Tell me how many of you would give the kid of these parents a hard time if you met him. I'm curious.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 234655)
Tell me how many of you would give the kid of these parents a hard time if you met him. I'm curious.
I fear the damage will come not from school yard bullies but from the situation itself and the relationship this kid will have with his/her parents. Sure there will be people out there that are cunts and give the kid a hard time, that'll only compound the underlying problems. The idea of changing one's sex, even the desire to do so will mind fuck the kid. Even though they will grow up around it, they'll still know it is different and contrary to societies norm. Let me ask you this, how different do you think your life would be if your dad was a woman who's had a partial sex change? Would it be positive? And it continues ... http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/sto...4528852&page=1 |
"When a child has loving parents in many ways she has it all," she said. "In many ways this child will be a privileged child."
Yeah, A loving mother and father. How many studys have we seen about children growing up without a father in their life. Dont tell me this kid will have a father because it wont. It will have a mother who wants to be a man. __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
I apologize now and ahead of time if I come off as a fuckface to anyone, but I am only being truthful with my opinion.
I just browsed the story and pics from ABC. First off, this reminds me of one handed jason. http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20080219.html He always felt weird and different, so long story short....he cut off his own hand....now is sooo happy with life. AND PEOPLE ENCOURAGE THAT? In my opinion, he is legally insane. Of course I'm no doctor, but lets be real!?! And he practiced how to fucking do it on butcher meat so there was no chance it could be surgically put back on. End tangent* I think sometimes everyone's mind wanders to a place that is a bit....not normal. For whatever reason regarding 1000's of things. Then there's the people that act on it. Cutting off their fucking hands, changing from a women to a man and then having a baby, kill a person maybe. To me, this is a crazy person. If the guy wants to cut off his hand...sure, its his hand, but I think there's a problem somewhere. And now the baby "might" be in jeopordy with this pair? Now that's involving a life, bringing a life into the world when there's a chance it'll be fucked up, not emotionally, but physical or mentally. Of course there's not much research on the issue Dr. fucking idiot! A plastic surgen is the doctor they interviewed!!! Like I said this is how I feel. But my god I hope I'm not the only one. :eek5: Vash- |
Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 234705)
Let me ask you this, how different do you think your life would be if your dad was a woman who's had a partial sex change? Would it be positive?
Maybe their kid will even learn to resent his/her own parents. |
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