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Braineack 04-03-2009 10:43 AM

Dear Mr. President
 
30 March 2009

Mr. Barack Obama
President, Executive Branch
United States Government
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. Obama:

On your website today you write that "my administration will offer General Motors adequate working capital to continue operations for the next 60 days." Because you're a man of your word and you choose your words carefully, I trust that you mean here that you and the public servants in your administration will personally pony up the working capital for G.M.

That is, like, soooo cool!!

I'm psyched that an American president and his administration finally will help a struggling company by digging into their own pockets! Thank you, thank you, thank you for breaking with the capitalist/GOP/"free-market-fundamentalist" tradition of forcing me and other taxpayers to shovel money into the bank accounts of giant multinational corporations. Thanks for risking only wealth that is your own, rather than following the prescription of lazy-fairies like Milton Friedman who (I learned in my sociology classes and from reading Naomi Klein) believed that innocent taxpayers should be forced to serve Big Multinational Corporations.

I'm so inspired that you and your White House teammates will give G.M. the bucks it needs - give them from your own private funds rather than take them from from taxpayers! That's just, like, so progressive! What a change! I believe in it!

Sincerely,
Donald J. Boudreaux

hustler 04-03-2009 11:00 AM

your buddy George Bush bankrolled them first...so be as pissed-off as you want, there is no alternative. Don't believe that bankrolling big, dumb corporations is an exclusive Democrat idea. You have no options but bitching and moaning on either side. lose/lose.

hustler 04-03-2009 11:11 AM

oh, and in for some bullshit about how Reaganomics "worked." lol

BenR 04-03-2009 11:34 AM

When people buy Piss Drinkers they don't expect a FREAKSHOW!

budget racer 04-03-2009 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 390573)
your buddy George Bush bankrolled them first.

hey, talk all the trash you want about George.....atleast he captured Osama Bin Laden. Oh wait.......

pdexta 04-03-2009 11:44 AM

It's nothing political, IMO, it was just as retarded when Bush did it as it is when Obama does it. Government has no business bailing out private industry. Especially a corporation that is so far gone that no matter how much money is dumped into them, they will fail, they will file chapter 11, they will reorganize, and the "loans" will never be repaid. The money is doing nothing but prolonging the inevitable and when that time does come, it's going to be much bigger and more costly than if the government had just let them go under in the first place. :2cents:

Stein 04-03-2009 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by budget racer (Post 390599)
hey, talk all the trash you want about George.....atleast he captured Osama Bin Laden. Oh wait.......

NO, that was Clinton, but he let him go...

hustler 04-03-2009 12:27 PM

I'm currently rending a dodge caliber...they deserve bankruptcy. My 20-year old car is better thought out than this modern shitbox.

naarleven 04-03-2009 12:48 PM

Too big to fail is morally wrong, however it does have sound logic to it. However difficult the decision is, I think it had to be made.

I think this has a place here.

Jonathan Haidt on the moral roots of liberals and conservatives | Video on TED.com

sixshooter 04-03-2009 01:17 PM

How about "too big to survive?"

And when the UAW, the bankers, and the largest corporations have purchased influence from the policy makers on both sides, the coffers will be drained for their behalf. And the taxpayers be damned.

slutz4 04-03-2009 01:53 PM

so what if my parent business started to go under? does that mean the government is gonna help them out. cough.. socialism...

Braineack 04-03-2009 01:56 PM

wal-mart is huge and is giving out 200billion in bonuses and contributions this year to its employees.

plus they hire like crazy and offer cheap ass products....fuck executives.

deliverator 04-03-2009 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 390676)
wal-mart is huge and is giving out 200billion in bonuses and contributions this year to its employees.

plus they hire like crazy and offer cheap ass products....fuck executives.

Are you trying to say that Wal-Mart is a good company?

Braineack 04-03-2009 02:11 PM

on paper, yes.

deliverator 04-03-2009 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 390691)
on paper, yes.


They hire people like crazy- part time. Pretty much allways part-time, so they don't have to pay benefits.

Wal-Mart publishes documentation for their employees describing how to get on government assistance. And from reading your incessant political commentary, I know how much you love people on gov't assistance.

Wal-Mart is a terrible company.

y8s 04-03-2009 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by slutz4 (Post 390674)
so what if my parent business started to go under? does that mean the government is gonna help them out. cough.. socialism...

parent's business? depends, will it put half a million people out of work and make a huge dent in the economy?


Originally Posted by deliverator (Post 390694)
They hire people like crazy- part time. Pretty much allways part-time, so they don't have to pay benefits.

Wal-Mart publishes documentation for their employees describing how to get on government assistance. And from reading your incessant political commentary, I know how much you love people on gov't assistance.

Wal-Mart is a terrible company.

not to mention it's basically China's way to drive their working population into poverty.

boileralum 04-03-2009 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by budget racer (Post 390599)
hey, talk all the trash you want about George.....atleast he captured Osama Bin Laden. Oh wait.......

Clinton had his finger on the trigger and could have taken out Bin Laden in 98, but was too busy sticking cigars in interns to be a man and help out the world.

y8s 04-03-2009 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by boileralum (Post 390715)
Clinton had his finger on the trigger and could have taken out Bin Laden in 98, but was too busy eliminating the deficit.

fixed.

Braineack 04-03-2009 03:02 PM

i thought it was getting blow jobs...he did eventually intervene and stop the genocide in Bosnia/Serbia and shit.

boileralum 04-03-2009 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 390724)
fixed.

The armed drone had Bin Laden in its sights, all it took was an executive order to fire. The incremental cost of one load of armament would not have blown the budget. Especially considering how much has been spent after the fact to repair damage caused by Osama and his cronies, not to mention the money spent on the post 9/11 manhunt. Nice try though.

BradC 04-03-2009 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 390724)
fixed.

Incorrectly.

hustler 04-03-2009 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 390707)
parent's business? depends, will it put half a million people out of work and make a huge dent in the economy?

We usually agree, but not on this. Let the big, dumb, fuckface corporations die and renew small business. There's probably some business model that makes my logic an impossibility, but I'll preach this until someone i respect comes up with something better. Fuck corporations and their shitty products...and fuck me for sending my tax money to them.

y8s 04-03-2009 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by boileralum (Post 390730)
Especially considering how much has been spent after the fact to repair damage caused by Osama and his cronies, not to mention the money spent on the post 9/11 manhunt. Nice try though.

maybe if we hadn't started looking in the wrong fucking country.

boileralum 04-03-2009 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 390770)
maybe if we hadn't started looking in the wrong fucking country.

Afghanistan was the wrong country? Pretty sure that was where the Taliban had setup shop and Al Queda was hanging out. I have no doubts our special forces were operating in Pakistan as well, permission or not.

johndoe 04-03-2009 04:54 PM

Nothing like monday morning quarterbacking. I'm sure if any of you were president you'd make the right decisions all the time. We'd be in a surplus, there would be no war, and I'd be getting my dick sucked as I type this.

BarrigaNA 04-03-2009 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by johndoe (Post 390786)
Nothing like monday morning quarterbacking. I'm sure if any of you were president you'd make the right decisions all the time. We'd be in a surplus, there would be no war, and I'd be getting my dick sucked as I type this.

Wait, you don't get your dick sucked while on the computer...

y8s 04-03-2009 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by boileralum (Post 390773)
Afghanistan was the wrong country? Pretty sure that was where the Taliban had setup shop and Al Queda was hanging out. I have no doubts our special forces were operating in Pakistan as well, permission or not.

of course al quaeda was hanging out in afghanistan....


.... while we were looking for saddam in iraq.

ray_sir_6 04-03-2009 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by deliverator (Post 390694)
They hire people like crazy- part time. Pretty much allways part-time, so they don't have to pay benefits.

Wal-Mart publishes documentation for their employees describing how to get on government assistance. And from reading your incessant political commentary, I know how much you love people on gov't assistance.

Wal-Mart is a terrible company.

I used to work for Wal-Mart, and most everyone else there worked full time, except the greeters, who wre too old to make it a full day. They still don't have to give you benefits if you work 40hrs, it isn't the government. They do make you watch some stupid vids, and then answer questions on it in a set amount of time from the start of your employment, and it's required, but yet won't give you the time to do it on the clock, which I thought was BS.

We had the district manager come in and give a walk-around with the managers, and I happened to over hear this:
"No matter how low our prices are, even the bggest sale items, we still make AT LEAST 100% on the item."

So it's cheap, but half of what is you pay is strictly profit for them.

ray_sir_6 04-03-2009 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by boileralum
Clinton had his finger on the trigger and could have taken out Bin Laden in 98, but was too busy eliminating the deficit.

fixed.
By changing the paydate from the end of the month to the 1st for government employees, and cutting military funding. He didn't do shit but cut the funding from the people who actually do their jobs, and risk their lives for this country, and shuffled around paychecks to alter the books. So basicly he did nothing.

ray_sir_6 04-03-2009 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 390838)
of course al quaeda was hanging out in afghanistan....


.... while we were looking for saddam in iraq.

And I guess our government and military is only one person, so we can't multi-task?

:loser:

shuiend 04-03-2009 07:17 PM

Scott, I am laughing at all the responses this brought up. I did not expect you to post it when I sent you a link to it. I like how it goes from an economics discussion to terrorists. I would also like some of the people that responded to check out Cafe Hayek which is where I got the letter from. If you would care to read back to last fall Professor Boudreaux equially blasted Bush for doing the same things.

kotomile 04-03-2009 07:44 PM

It's time to play lets see how many different spellings of القاعدة (al qa3dat) miataturbo.net members can come up with!

So far we have:

Al Queda
Al Quaeda

y8s 04-04-2009 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 390895)
It's time to play lets see how many different spellings of القاعدة (al qa3dat) miataturbo.net members can come up with!

So far we have:

Al Queda
Al Quaeda

it's a language totally unrelated to ours. is there really a number 3 in it?

my white american aunt and uncle couldn't spell my name til I was 18. and they are born again christians and my name is in the bible!

kotomile 04-04-2009 12:15 AM

The 3 represents the Ayn (ع), for which there is no English equivalent. If you choke yourself and try to produce a sound, you will be pronouncing the Ayn.

http://smiliesftw.com/x/big_jihad.png

hustler 04-04-2009 01:44 AM

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