Isn't this what software is for?!?

forty two.

Think Calc is hard...just wait for thermo. Nothing better than a take home test with one problem that takes 40hrs to complete.

It's even better when your professor's English is about as clear as mud.

I will say it is all worth it in the end. A professional salaried job makes playing with cars and racing a little easier. Stick with it!

:dunno:

That just leaves me with mental images of good will hunting.

Mark

I grdauated in May, my last math course was calc three sophomore year :dunno: to be honest I have no idea. Calc was never that hard for me, the problem is you have teachers instead of teaching you the overall concept and then walking you through derivations for each case, they try to teach you "rules" for each type, ie chain rule or whatever. It really didn't click until i took a class after differential equations that I cant remember the name of.

But pat, get one of those calculators that does everything. I had a voyage 200, but while they wouldn't let me use it in test it allowed me to double check all my answers for hw

Dude thermo is easy, just remember to assume everything doesnt exist, wait for heat trasnfer then you cant its all taken into account. If i ever have to nondimensionalize a problem again ill shoot myself in the face.

Hey Ben- When you used the product rule in step 3, Isn't the derivative of a constant Zero?

:ughug: loki you my math hero :love:

I've been thinking about doing that. I've always used my TI-83 that was given to me used 8 years ago:nono: Perhaps a higher level Texas Instruments? I've never heard of a Voyage before.

Indeed :o

Thanks Ben, that helps. Then you can simplify 2(cos/sin)x to 2cotx. That's the final answer in my notes, so that must be how to get to it.

Thanks everybody for all the help. This is the best turbochaged miata/Calculus help Forum in the world!!!

Right.
FWIW, I got help w/ that. There's a math major (grad w/ honors) in the kitchen. :gay:

2 things about the voyage, full keyboard, and usb port to plug into a computer. TO download notes to it ;)

Well, that's two good reasons right there:bigtu: Do any higer level calculators actually show the steps involved to solving the problem? Perhaps that's asking too much, but if I'm buying it to help me learn, that would be the deciding factor come time to buy one.

well i used to do the steps for each problem and then check it with the calc. I couldnt recommend it enough

That's what solutions manuals are for. If you google questions from the book alot of times you can find an uploaded solutions manual. Even bittorrent might have it.

Problem: Y=ln(x^4(sin^2(x))) Find first derivative.

=(d/dx) ln(x^4(sin^2(x)))
=4lnx+ 2lnsin^2x
=(4/x)+2(1/sinx)cosx
=(4/x)+2cotx

^^that is your answer
I have the same book but I am in calc one, i hate differentiations

*EDIT* sorry i didnt realize you already had the answer

btw, ticalc.org

you can download programs that help find the answer... its a good reference, but we arent allowed calculators

I dont think anyone is, cept for calc three cause those we impossible by hand (time wise)