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hustler 12-05-2007 11:30 PM

discuss reliability on teh track
 
All these local motherfuckers talk shit about how all the turbo cars around here aren't reliable on the track. Even the FM fanboy "turbo-spec" owners/drivers have reliability problems.

Discuss.

jayc72 12-05-2007 11:31 PM

You are a pussy. End of story.

hustler 12-05-2007 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 182152)
You are a pussy. End of story.

another earth shattering post from America Jr.

jayc72 12-05-2007 11:54 PM

Too decisive for you? Maybe I should make a poll?

And it took you nearly 15 minutes to come up with America Jr? Don't you know that most Canadians aren't all wrapped up in national pride bullshit .... hence we don't make war every 10 years or so. :)

But really, I'm sure someone will come along and give you a pat on the head to make you feel better.

patsmx5 12-06-2007 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 182170)
national pride bullshit ....

:vash:

Markp 12-06-2007 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 182151)
All these local motherfuckers talk shit about how all the turbo cars around here aren't reliable on the track. Even the FM fanboy "turbo-spec" owners/drivers have reliability problems.

Discuss.

LOL, I used to beat the shit out of my Miata with it's BEGi/FM prototype setup and I never had problems once I had gotten it sorted out... but then again, I ran 100 octane fuel on the street. I did finally blow the stock motor, but my 99 lunched it's first motor while it was still stock (#4 Bearing issue.)

Mark

BenR 12-06-2007 11:50 AM

Needs more ITB, and PC-Pro.

brgracer 12-06-2007 01:40 PM

The increased stress of sustained high rpms and boost will strain any engine period. That said, there are plenty of boosted miatas that hit the track and do fine. Usually the extra load will expose your weakest link at the time and then you move on.

For example, back in the spring, my oil drain line started to crack and leak from the sustained heat being right next to the manifold. Replaced with a stainless line and moved on.

I think that as long as you keep an eye on your gauges (temp, afrs, etc...), use some common sense, and get off the track if you have concerns, you'll be fine. Simple things like skipping a session on a wet day or turning down the boost (when you finally turbo your car that is) a little on the particularly hot days might be the way to go for you. Bring extra parts/tools and be ready to limp home just in case.

I've talked to many of the guys who bring their boosted miata to the track and they've all had some stories about problems at the track, but all have made it back home without blowing their engine b/c they played it smart.

Braineack 12-06-2007 01:44 PM

My temp gauge started peaking on the straights at +110mph....so i kept in it and let it peg to 240°F

brgracer 12-06-2007 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 182432)
My temp gauge started peaking on the straights at +110mph....so i kept in it and let it peg to 240°F

And that particular engine is now where? :gay:

Braineack 12-06-2007 01:53 PM

sitting in pieces on my garage floor :bigtu:

hustler 12-06-2007 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 182432)
My temp gauge started peaking on the straights at +110mph....so i kept in it and let it peg to 240°F

danger to manifold?

hustler 12-06-2007 02:32 PM

I think I have my bases as covered as possible. I have stainless lines for everything and I'll have spare coolant hoses for the heater box. I'm worried about shit like cracked manifolds and downpipes, piping and coolant hoses blowing...shit like that.

brgracer 12-06-2007 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 182467)
I think I have my bases as covered as possible. I have stainless lines for everything and I'll have spare coolant hoses for the heater box. I'm worried about shit like cracked manifolds and downpipes, piping and coolant hoses blowing...shit like that.

Just turbo your car and enjoy it already. Sheesh. Anything can happen. Hell, at the last track day, 5 cars left the track on tow trucks. None with blown engines. None were turboed. ALL were wrecked into a wall, and all but one was from the instructor group and the other was in group 4 (most advanced). It was a dry track. Shit happens.

soflarick 12-06-2007 03:06 PM

I hope Hustler doesn't work for the post office.

Virus 12-06-2007 03:06 PM

Heat is the biggest issue. I don't know if you'll experience this but after a lap on a 75F day, I was boiling over. I have a PWR rad, new cap, Waterwetter and a low coolant to water mixture and I still was running hot. That and like I mentioned in another post, I melted an engine mount and an exhaust hanger. I've since added a shroud and dual Spal fan setup that seems to pull a lot more air through the IC/Condensor/Radiator so hopefully this will do the trick...or I'm going to get something better for the track.

spike 12-06-2007 03:13 PM

The reason these turbo cars are not "reliable" is cause the owners do not take the steps to make them track worthy with the supporting mods.Hustler,just make sure you prep your car right and take a full detail once over on everything the night before you go to the track and fix/repair any potential problems you see.

........jayc you got it all wrong.America sr. only starts wars when a new warlord gets elected into the white house.Gotta show the rest of the world not to fuck with the new leader and what he's capable of.

hustler 12-06-2007 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Virus (Post 182486)
Heat is the biggest issue. I don't know if you'll experience this but after a lap on a 75F day, I was boiling over. I have a PWR rad, new cap, Waterwetter and a low coolant to water mixture and I still was running hot. That and like I mentioned in another post, I melted an engine mount and an exhaust hanger. I've since added a shroud and dual Spal fan setup that seems to pull a lot more air through the IC/Condensor/Radiator so hopefully this will do the trick...or I'm going to get something better for the track.

This is the kind of shit that worries me. I have a coolradiator 2.5" rad, but I think I'm going to need more. I should probably get off my ass and drive down to SanAntonio to get that FM hood. So you still have not had any successful track outings?

Braineack 12-06-2007 03:20 PM

yes....heat kills....and yes this was on the track:

http://www.boostedmiata.com/cracked_...brokeassdp.jpg

http://www.boostedmiata.com/cracked_...ld/cracked.jpg


had i been smart and not made a bracket for the exhaust to bolt to the tranny, it would have never happened.

i was also smart and relocated my PS line (which i previously has near the manifold). It burst randomly on the street, even insulated in heat wrap, it melted and finally gave way.

just fucking run it, and fix what breaks, and learn from your mistakes.

hustler 12-06-2007 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 182501)
yes....heat kills....and yes this was on the track:

http://www.boostedmiata.com/cracked_.../broeassdp.jpg

http://www.boostedmiata.com/cracked_manifold/cacked.jpg


had i been smart and not made a bracket for the exhaust to bolt to the tranny, it would have never happened.

i was also smart and relocated my PS line (which i previously has near the manifold). It burst randomly on the street, even insulated in heat wrap, it melted and finally gave way.

just fucking run it, and fix what breaks, and learn from your mistakes.

shit like that and overheating are what scare me. How many track days have you run, and what is your experience with overheating?


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