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Lexzar 08-10-2017 02:45 PM

Does anybody have any experience with Robo-Advisors? (Betterment, ect.)
 
I personally have some money I want to try investing with over time (sub-$10k realm for now while I am in school). A colleague of mine suggested (emphatically) that I try Betterment for at least 6 months to a year, and he has a so-and-so return and on and on.

Anybody have any experience on this end? For better or for worse.

18psi 08-10-2017 03:11 PM

Have you seen aidans finance thread? Lots of discussion there with how to make money with your money over time.

Lexzar 08-10-2017 03:44 PM

I haven't, I will try to find it.

aidandj 08-10-2017 04:05 PM

Samnavy also has a recent thread.

The TL;DR of my thread was if you want hands off investing get an index fund. Paying a service to invest your money isn't usually the best route.

Joe Perez 08-10-2017 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1433077)
The TL;DR of my thread was if you want hands off investing get an index fund. Paying a service to invest your money isn't usually the best route.

I've been reading / listening a lot recently, and am coming to accept what appears to be the increasingly consensus opinion reflected above. That there just aren't a lot* of portfolio advisors who have actually been able to consistently outperform the S&P 500 over the long term.
* = the number is approximately what you'd expect from a statistically random distribution.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that the best thing you can probably do is to just invest in low-overhead index funds, and be ready to very quickly exchange into a double-bear fund the next time the market tips into the dumpster like it did in '01 and '08.

Ryan_G 08-10-2017 04:38 PM

The one thing betterment did do that most people would not do on their own was tax loss harvesting. This alone use to make their service worth it back when they first started. I believe they just hiked their rates fairly significantly recently which cause quite a few people who praised them to pull support and move their own accounts. If you don't know what tax loss harvesting is you should google it. It is something that is not actually too hard to do on your own a few time a year to minimize your tax burden and increase real returns in the process.


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