Engine Heaters
I'm sure this is the wrong forum for this, but I'm not getting a lot of response on the Subaru forums. It's worth a try; you guys know a lot about a lot of things.
My daily commute is 4 miles each way, and I just bought an Outback XT for winter. I hate getting into a cold car, then driving it cold, then parking it just as it starts warming up. It's uncomfortable, and pretty much the worst thing you can do to it. Subaru has a 400W block heater that goes in the frost plug, but I am hearing mixed reviews about whether that will actually make enough difference, or if it is just designed to keep stuff liquid in the arctic circle. Then there is something like , that is slightly more complicated, and leaves more room for error, fitment issues, and potential leaks down the road; but it is 1000W and would easily heat the engine up enough to produce heat by the end of the driveway. So, since I live in Maine and not the arctic circle, I'm looking for comfort and added-life for the engine, not simply "will it start?" on -40F days... thoughts? For what it's worth, the car lives in an unheated garage, so temps will be as cold as outside, but there will be no wind. |
Serious response: heated seat cover?
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Make a removable piece where you can block off the radiator opening. Remove it when you have to drive more than your 4 miles.
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Emilio was talking about how he REALLY wanted to make a design for a vent to go behind the radiator that was adjustable for the crusher. That would allow you to block it off and open it after warm up. You should definitely ask about it.
Seriously though, you can get quality freeze plug block warmers that work very well if the OEM one is supposed to be crap. Being where you are, it should be relatively easy to find. |
Originally Posted by curly
(Post 800421)
Serious response: heated seat cover?
Originally Posted by rharris19
(Post 800435)
Seriously though, you can get quality freeze plug block warmers that work very well if the OEM one is supposed to be crap. Being where you are, it should be relatively easy to find.
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The guys on my Geo Metro forum talk about block heaters all the time (due to the horrible MPG when the engine is cold). Anyway, I am no expert but they would be.
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This is a really neat find. I'm aware of block heaters, but I had never seen a forced-circulation tank heater.
To be honest, I'm thinking about installing one of these in my Miata so I can have insta-heat on our frigid winter mornings in San Diego. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 800698)
This is a really neat find. I'm aware of block heaters, but I had never seen a forced-circulation tank heater.
To be honest, I'm thinking about installing one of these in my Miata so I can have insta-heat on our frigid winter mornings in San Diego. FWIW, the heater I linked to is not a forced convection heater. There is no pump, it just circulates by natural convection. The instructions say the pump must be mounted vertically, and below the engine block. The only person I can find who has mounted one of these on a Subaru mounted his horizontally, and while it worked very well (melted snow off the hood, defrosted the windshield), his heating element failed within a year. I would assume he boiled the coolant because it couldn't rise properly. |
1. Buy space heater with thermostat.
2. Put in cabin of said auto. 3. Turn on before going to bed. 4. ?????? 5. Profit Y U gotta make this so hard? $30 and sits on driver's or passenger's floorboard when car is in garage. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...1500,1950_.jpg |
For my cars, neither have heaters, I have a space heater on a timer that is set about the time I wake up. Then after showering and getting ready I go out to the car and presto...its warm and cozy. As for block warmers I have no idea. Come up with a external pump with a tank and heating element with some quick disconnect couplers. That way it circulates throughout the entire cooling system...but that would still leave the oil cold, so you would need a way to warm that. But that is probably way to complicated of a system.
*just saw the link to the amazon thing. I like my idea better, that way its not always in the car and having coolant run through it. For the oil, just do a dry sump and put a heating element in the oil tank...problem solved...lol |
Except for the fact that those heaters all have tilt switches, so his car needs to be big enough for it to stand up. I've done that before though, it's very effective. You're on your own for the whole fire hazard thing though. Not so much that one as the ones with exposed internal heating elements.
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You're putting a space heater in your car with a timer and can't disable a tilt switch? <G>
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I've been using the block heater on my truck lately and found that heat came on sooner (was luke warm almost immediately) and my 50km morning commute has averaged 9.4L/hkm vs 11.5L/hkm it has been previously. Ambient temp has been -5 to 0C in the mornings. I dunno the wattage but it came stock on an '07 B3000.
You could get a corolla, they have an electric heater that works until the coolant is warm enough to take over, at least the Canadian ones do. |
Originally Posted by skidude
(Post 800720)
You poor thing, it must get all the way down to what, the low 50's?
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http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...0652&ppt=C0076
Back when I was a counter jockey, I sold a ton of these at work. None came back, all people I talked to were happy. Once out of the apartment, I'm going to put one on the Jeep with a timer for about an hour before clinicals/work. |
Originally Posted by inferno94
(Post 800961)
You could get a corolla, they have an electric heater that works until the coolant is warm enough to take over, at least the Canadian ones do.
Happy they're actually doing this, Pissed that I'm not making millions from this. |
Cheap and easy. Clean oil pan and stick on. There are others but this was the first link that I came to. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...9139_200339139
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 801059)
I'm both happy and pissed.
Happy they're actually doing this, Pissed that I'm not making millions from this. Look at me I'm a cheap ass/ Speaking of which, on a -6C morning I got 8.4L/hkm going 110kph (vs my usual 120kph) today. My stock truck can get better gas mileage than my miata (in which mpgs are moot) and 20% better than the factory rating without drafting anything. /Look at me I'm a cheap ass |
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Originally Posted by skidude
(Post 800377)
So, since I live in Maine and not the arctic circle, I'm looking for comfort and added-life for the engine, not simply "will it start?" on -40F days... thoughts? . Attachment 186450 omg look at those gas prices O_O -40 for the highs :( :( Attachment 186451 lol this was years ago gas is above $4.00 now :( but yes engine heaters work at these temps. up here it is a necessity. to have them ive had oil freeze so solid that i couldn't even pull the dip stick out , had to thaw it out with bbq coals in a pizza pan under the engine i have a block heater, oil pan heater, battery heater, trickle charger, transmission heater, peculator heater plus the correct fluids to handle these temps some people also install a 12v cab heater inside their car to heat up the interior which is usually plugged in with the rest of the engine heaters |
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