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JasonC SBB 02-22-2014 01:39 PM

Fess up, bronies!
 

2ndGearRubber 02-23-2014 12:29 PM

I like watching My Little Pony with my S.O.'s four year old daughter. It's pretty damn positive. Very uplifting mentally.


As for watching it by myself? No thanks.

Erat 02-23-2014 12:43 PM

I am the exact 100% opposite as everyone and everything in that video.

spitefulcheerio 02-23-2014 12:50 PM

no. just no.

NA6C-Guy 02-23-2014 12:56 PM

3:04. That's amazing, she is exactly right. That is already exactly what I say when seeing Bronies.

gearhead_318 02-23-2014 07:30 PM

In the words Rocko and later on Rick Ross;
"You just do you (and what), umma do me, umma do me, umma do me"

Citation:

It's not my thing, but they aren't hurting anyone so whatever. Same with the gays.
Do you hitta.

NA6C-Guy 02-23-2014 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by gearhead_318 (Post 1105364)
In the words Rocko and later on Rick Ross;
"You just do you (and what), umma do me, umma do me, umma do me"

Citation:
Umma do me(remix) - Rocko Ft. Rick Ross and Young jeezy & T.I. - YouTube

It's not my thing, but they aren't hurting anyone so whatever. Same with the gays.
Do you hitta.

Exactly. If everyone could apply this thinking to other things in our global culture, the world would be a better place. Leave people the fuck alone if they aren't hurting you or causing trouble.

Braineack 02-24-2014 08:06 AM

You all just watched the trailer to Idiocracy 2: The Prelude.

Bronies: The extremely unexpected fans of my little pony is just a working title.

sixshooter 02-24-2014 08:16 AM

Never underestimate the power of low self-esteem. I bet they have hundreds of childhood participation trophies between them.

Braineack 02-25-2014 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1105483)
Never underestimate the power of low self-esteem. I bet they have hundreds of childhood participation trophies between them.



when bronies go to social events.

sixshooter 02-25-2014 12:15 PM

Fiesta Equestria, huh? I guess the name "Los Lonely Boys" was taken.

thenuge26 02-25-2014 12:28 PM

I find myself leaning towards the Brony side because the anti-Brony people are so inflammatory that it's fun to piss them off. I love to laugh at people who get that pissed off about someone elses choice in TV program. In 27 years now I have yet to hear a dumber reason for people to be pissed off. "How dare that adult watch a childrens show and enjoy it, they need to stop enjoying things I don't enjoy!"

I've never actually seen the show but I have seen people on reddit frothing at the mouth about how Brony culture is the first sign of the apocalypse.

sixshooter 02-25-2014 12:57 PM

I've never seen the show. I'm just poking fun at the goobers.

Braineack 02-25-2014 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1105987)
I find myself leaning towards the Brony side because the anti-Brony people are so inflammatory that it's fun to piss them off. I love to laugh at people who get that pissed off about someone elses choice in TV program. In 27 years now I have yet to hear a dumber reason for people to be pissed off. "How dare that adult watch a childrens show and enjoy it, they need to stop enjoying things I don't enjoy!"

I've never actually seen the show but I have seen people on reddit frothing at the mouth about how Brony culture is the first sign of the apocalypse.


that's like you leaning towards roadsterdrift because we all think they are retarded. and that you love to laugh at us for disliking subhumans that enjoy running their cars into walls and sticker bombing them in order to subjectively get graded on a scale of 1 to rainbow.

to me, it's just sad on all levels. they must be the most sad individuals on the planet, behind underaged sex slaves in 3rd world countries.

gearhead_318 02-25-2014 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1106016)
that's like you leaning towards roadsterdrift because we all think they are retarded. and that you love to laugh at us for disliking subhumans that enjoy running their cars into walls and sticker bombing them in order to subjectively get graded on a scale of 1 to rainbow.

to me, it's just sad on all levels. they must be the most sad individuals on the planet, behind underaged sex slaves in 3rd world countries.

At least sex slaves get laid.

Braineack 02-25-2014 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by gearhead_318 (Post 1106058)
At least sex slaves get laid.

that's why they are behind.

thenuge26 02-25-2014 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1106016)
that's like you leaning towards roadsterdrift because we all think they are retarded. and that you love to laugh at us for disliking subhumans that enjoy running their cars into walls and sticker bombing them in order to subjectively get graded on a scale of 1 to rainbow.

The doriftos are actually ruining (some) good cars though (nobody cares if we lose a few 240s but crashed Miatas drive the prices up for used ones). How does someone watching a cartoon hurt you in the real world?

Besides, I think all the groups (driftos, bronies, and the anti-bronies) are all just a bunch of bandwagoners who can't think for themselves. I don't hate them for that, I just don't respect them because of it.

Braineack 02-25-2014 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1106073)
Besides, I think all the groups (driftos, bronies, and the anti-bronies) are all just a bunch of bandwagoners who can't think for themselves. I don't hate them for that, I just don't respect them because of it.

I have much more important things to spend my hate on...

NA6C-Guy 02-25-2014 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1106016)
that's like you leaning towards roadsterdrift because we all think they are retarded. and that you love to laugh at us for disliking subhumans that enjoy running their cars into walls and sticker bombing them in order to subjectively get graded on a scale of 1 to rainbow.

to me, it's just sad on all levels. they must be the most sad individuals on the planet, behind underaged sex slaves in 3rd world countries.

Why you hatin'? They are just doing what makes them happy. Same for CR people. We might find it stupid, but what does that matter. So long as they are enjoying what they do.

Braineack 02-25-2014 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 1106096)
Why you hatin'? They are just doing what makes them happy. Same for CR people. We might find it stupid, but what does that matter. So long as they are enjoying what they do.

it's more about what it represents and just how bad off our future is.

I'm glad these adult children living at home have found other peers to live a depressing life with.

NA6C-Guy 02-25-2014 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1106097)
it's more about what it represents and just how bad off our future is.

I'm glad these adult children living at home have found other peers to live a depressing life with.

Do you have evidence to back up your claim that they are all living at home with their parents? And the fact that they lead depressing lives is only an opinion of yours (and mine). I don't see it as any more harmful than a lot of other time wasting things that people do in their free time.

gearhead_318 02-25-2014 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 1106101)
Do you have evidence to back up your claim that they are all living at home with their parents?

They watch children's cartoons.

shuiend 02-25-2014 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by gearhead_318 (Post 1106107)
They watch children's cartoons.

I have a friend who owns a very nice home, in a much nicer area of town then I do, who regularly enjoys watching Adventure Time. That is a children’s cartoon he most certainly does not live at home, so not a valid argument.

NA6C-Guy 02-25-2014 04:13 PM

So adults aren't allowed to watch Saturday morning cartoons? That's bullshit!

thenuge26 02-25-2014 04:58 PM

Can I drive go-karts? Or does that make me too much of a kid?

How about play laser tag? We need a list of acceptable childrens activities that can be enjoyed by adults.

You know for a bunch of self-styled conservatives, you seem to care quite a bit about what others do.

Braineack 02-25-2014 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1106120)
I have a friend who owns a very nice home, in a much nicer area of town then I do, who regularly enjoys watching Adventure Time. That is a children’s cartoon he most certainly does not live at home, so not a valid argument.

he lives at home. just his own home...

does not disprove.

gearhead_318 02-25-2014 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1106120)
I have a friend who owns a very nice home, in a much nicer area of town then I do, who regularly enjoys watching Adventure Time. That is a children’s cartoon he most certainly does not live at home, so not a valid argument.

My barracks room mate has an "action figure" from adventure time and has the Halo Master Chief "action figure, they are in the stand-up 69. Master Chief is the one standing in case you where wondering.


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 1106128)
So adults aren't allowed to watch Saturday morning cartoons? That's bullshit!

You can watch them, but things change when you start putting stickers on your car and going to meetings to discuss said cartoons. You wouldn't state that these cartoons are a defining feature of your identity.

NA6C-Guy 02-25-2014 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by gearhead_318 (Post 1106168)

You can watch them, but things change when you start putting stickers on your car and going to meetings to discuss said cartoons. You wouldn't state that these cartoons are a defining feature of your identity.

I guess you do have a valid point there.

spitefulcheerio 02-26-2014 02:08 AM

I have no problem with what people do with their spare time but this shit is cringe worthy

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-26-2014 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by gearhead_318 (Post 1106168)
You can watch them, but things change when you start putting stickers on your car and going to meetings to discuss said cartoons. You wouldn't state that these cartoons are a defining feature of your identity.

So what?

What about grown men who think about nothing but football. They watch football constantly, wear clothing with football team logos, have football bumper stickers, and participate in a fantasy football league?

I dont get it. I could easily argue that it is more obsessive, pointless, and stupid than MLP.

But this kind of thing is totally accepted in our society. These kinds pf people are so common that every other movie coming out of Hollywood has one of these guys written in as a character.

When talking with a total stranger you can say "Did you catch the game?" or mention your fantasy football league and nobody would bat an eye. They probably wont even remember you like football the next time you meet because its such a boring fact.
Yet, if you say you like MLP in the same situation that person is going to think you are fucking nuts. They will think you have aspergers, which you probably do since you just committed social suicide.

Braineack 02-26-2014 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1106310)
Yet, if you say you like MLP in the same situation that person is going to think you are fucking nuts. They will think you have aspergers, which you probably do since you just committed social suicide.

I watch MLG.

Braineack 02-26-2014 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1106310)
which you probably do since you just committed social suicide.

funny you mention suicide, this is a serious problem that can lead to actual suicide, Board-crtified doctors write articles on it:


Bronies

Parents and pediatricians often have a hard time understanding why a teen would start being a brony or do other things to shame themselves. Not surprisingly, bronyism is a complex behavioral problem and is often associated with a variety of psychiatric disorders, including depression, anxiety, and eating disorders, etc.

Teens who consider themselves bronies may also be more likely to have friends who are alos bronies, and have low self-esteem, a history of abuse, and/or thoughts of committing suicide.

Why do these children begin watching My Little Pony in the first place? While it is sometimes seen as an attention seeking behavior, many experts think that being a brony is a way for these kids to release tension, relieve feelings of sadness or anger, or simply to try and distract themselves from their problems. Of course, any relief, if it occurs, will only be temporary.

And while some of these teens who are My Little Pony may have a friend who does it too or may have read about it or seen it on TV, most kids who start being a brony were influenced by Reddit.

Signs of Brony

Bronyism is most common in teens and young adults, especially teen girls, and often starts at around age 14 or 15.

In addition to being associated with depression and anxiety, teens who are bronies are also usually described as being impulsive. Some are also described as being overachievers.

Signs that your teen is cutting may include that he/she:
  • always wears My Little Pony shirts
  • routinely spends all time online and has no friends
  • is developing symptoms of depression, anxiety, an eating disorder, or changes in her usual mood
  • has trouble controlling his/her emotions or emotional states, for example, your teen doesn't know how to handle himself/herself when he/she feels sad or angry
  • Ask your child if you think he/she is a brony, or seek professional help first, but most importantly, don't get mad, don't overreact, and don't ignore your child's bronyism or other self-harm behaviors.

Treatments for Bronies

It is important to seek treatment for your teen who is a brony, both to help with any underlying psychiatric problems, like depression or anxiety, and because being a brony can become a habit they can't stop.

The S.A.F.E. Alternatives (Self Abuse Finally Ends) treatment program describes bronies as an 'ultimately a dangerous and futile coping strategy which interferes with intimacy, productivity and happiness.'

In addition to treating their underlying depression, anxiety, or other mental health conditions, teens who are cutting should be evaluated and treated:
  • by a counselor or psychologist who has experience treating teens with this condition
  • with others in a brony or self-harm support group
  • when necessary, in a treatment center that has experience treating teens who harm themselves
  • Treatment for bronies will likely focus on helping the teen develop healthier coping mechanisms when faced with feelings of anger, stress, or sadness, etc., help boost their self-esteem, help manage other underlying psychiatric problems, such as depression or anxiety, and to make sure the teen isn't having thoughts of suicide.

An evaluation by a child psychiatrist might also be a good idea for further treatment ideas, which might include antidepressant when necessary.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-26-2014 12:22 PM

Bahaha
That's the first time I've heard the term bronyism. What's next? Weaboo-ism?

Braineack 02-26-2014 12:40 PM

I just took an article on cutters and changed the text...

sixshooter 02-26-2014 12:55 PM

I agree with the assessment that people who obsess over sports that they aren't playing themselves are a bit suspect.

I watch South Park and enjoyed Ren and Stimpy but don't attend conventions or "dances" with a bunch of other dudes to celebrate my affinity for Stan Marsh. I'm also under the impression that those shows are not written for a target audience of elementary school girls.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-26-2014 01:14 PM

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I just took an article on cutters and changed the text...

You sly dog

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Braineack 02-26-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1106499)
You sly dog

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gearhead_318 02-26-2014 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by spitefulcheerio (Post 1106305)
I have no problem with what people do with their spare time but this shit is cringe worthy

This.


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1106310)
So what?

What about grown men who think about nothing but football. They watch football constantly, wear clothing with football team logos, have football bumper stickers, and participate in a fantasy football league?

I dont get it. I could easily argue that it is more obsessive, pointless, and stupid than MLP.

But this kind of thing is totally accepted in our society. These kinds pf people are so common that every other movie coming out of Hollywood has one of these guys written in as a character.

When talking with a total stranger you can say "Did you catch the game?" or mention your fantasy football league and nobody would bat an eye. They probably wont even remember you like football the next time you meet because its such a boring fact.
Yet, if you say you like MLP in the same situation that person is going to think you are fucking nuts. They will think you have aspergers, which you probably do since you just committed social suicide.

I don't watch football or mlp. I am the Anti-Christ. :dealwithit:

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-26-2014 02:59 PM

I dont either, Im just playing devils advocate.

Braineack 02-26-2014 03:03 PM

but i really do watch MLG.

gearhead_318 02-26-2014 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1106566)
I dont either, Im just playing devils advocate.

More like bronies advocate. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1106568)
but i really do watch MLG.

Major League Golf?

Braineack 02-26-2014 03:15 PM

just google mlg. not hard.

gearhead_318 02-26-2014 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1106580)
just google mlg. not hard.

How?

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-26-2014 03:38 PM

MLG has gotten embarrassing. LOL and COD are some of the sorriest excuses for competitive games Ive ever seen.
Ill occasionally watch competitive SC2 and CS:GO, just to remind myself how incredibly bad I am.

shuiend 02-26-2014 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1106599)
MLG has gotten embarrassing. LOL and COD are some of the sorriest excuses for competitive games Ive ever seen.
Ill occasionally watch competitive SC2 and CS:GO, just to remind myself how incredibly bad I am.

MLG no longer even has SC2. So I no longer bother watching.

NA6C-Guy 02-26-2014 05:47 PM

Now THAT is something that has never made sense to me. Watching other people that you don't know play games that you yourself could or do also play. Video games are already a huge waste of time, so watching other people play is certainly an exceptionally large waste of time.

Joe Perez 02-26-2014 11:25 PM

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I have no idea what MLG is. Nor SC2, nor CS:GO or LOL.

But as I do occasionally play TF2 on a Pony-oriented server (since you MT crew all abandoned me for MvM), there we have our little segue.

(Too many TLAs?)



This turns out to be a fascinating subject. I will admit that I haven't done any serious research on it before today, and while I haven't found much in the academic press which is specific to Brony culture, I HAVE found quite a bit written on the subject of the furry fandom in general, with which I assume at least a significant crossover.



Most particularly, it seems that the common perjorative that "all furries / bronies are fags", while not literally true, is in fact supported by data to a much larger extent than would be expected from a random statistical distribution.

For instance, from the study Furries From A to Z (Anthropomorphism to Zoomorphism) (Kathleen C. Gerbasi, et al), a table showing the distribution of responses to the question of sexual orientation among Furry Participants (FP), Non-Furry Participants (NFP) and Control Participants (CP):

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1393471684

We see here that 72% of males who self-identify as "Furry" also report a sexual orientation of homosexual or bisexual, as compared with only 23.5% of the "non-Furry" population surveyed at a 2006 convention, and a mere 8% of the "control population" (consisting of a group of undergraduate students in Niagara county, NY).

I'm going to repeat that: 72% of male furries admit to being butt-pirates.

(read the whole study- it's not all that long, and really quite fascinating.)






But that's not all. The same basic trends are also noted in this study, conducted in 2008-2010: http://www.klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey2009.php

Of particular note are the data concerning "gender identity," wherein 79.5% of respondents were "biologically male" (eg: having a dick), but only 61.1% reported their "gender identity" as "male." And likewise, while 20% of respondents were "biologically female," only slightly more than half of those reported their "gender identity" as unambiguously female. Shit's fucked up all 'round, son.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393475154

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393475154

(Other? WTF?)


... with a paltry 23.8% reporting their sexual orientation as "exclusively heterosexual."

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393475154




For those members of the MT community who are queer, I'm not judging you, merely pointing out that this data is extremely curious in terms of its skew as compared to a mean average of the population as a whole.






The data continues much along this line, with studies such as "The Sociology of Furry Fandom" (Rust, David J, 2002) disclosing much the same trends. The Rust study is interesting not merely because it reinforced the aforementioned stereotypes of sexual orientation (only 25% of male respondents identifying as heterosexual), but also the basement-dwelling aspects, with 35% of respondents reporting annual income below $10,000 and a staggering 78% below $40,000.





In short, I feel somewhat icky. And I've come to realize that many of the memes which we toss around so flippantly are rooted in real-world cultural movements populated by people who genuinely scare me. Such as Mark Merlino (aka Sylys Sable), self-proclaimed "founding member of furry fandom", former Tiger's Den BBS Sysop and long-time "mate" of Rod O'Riley (aka Vinson Mink), editor in chief of In-Fur-Nation magazine and founding member of the The Anthropomorphic Literature and Arts Association.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393475154
(Mark Merlino)


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393475154
(Rod O'Riley)




To summarize; this shit creeps me the hell out.




I close with the following, which is not entirely relevant but which I found during the course of my research into this post:

http://brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif

NA6C-Guy 02-27-2014 01:36 AM

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Changing the world.

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Davezorz 02-27-2014 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 1106644)
Now THAT is something that has never made sense to me. Watching other people that you don't know play games that you yourself could or do also play. Video games are already a huge waste of time, so watching other people play is certainly an exceptionally large waste of time.

I like to watch for a couple of reasons:

sometimes you can pick up techniques/tactics that can really help your game.
professional matches vs public matches is similar to tracking a car vs driving it on the street. You can do things in a pro match that would never work in a public game.

I don't watch a ton of professional games, just some odd replays on youtube, and The International for dota.

I don't see how it is any different than watching any professional sport.

NA6C-Guy 02-27-2014 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Davezorz (Post 1106814)
I like to watch for a couple of reasons:

sometimes you can pick up techniques/tactics that can really help your game.
professional matches vs public matches is similar to tracking a car vs driving it on the street. You can do things in a pro match that would never work in a public game.

I don't watch a ton of professional games, just some odd replays on youtube, and The International for dota.

I don't see how it is any different than watching any professional sport.

Well for one, one of those things is people watching other people participate in an activity in the real world. The other is people watching other people participate in an activity through a device that allows them to interact in a virtual world.

But as I already said, watch or do whatever you want, I don't care. Just saying it's something I don't understand and wouldn't care to do.

sixshooter 02-28-2014 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Davezorz (Post 1106814)
I like to watch

I thought so...

Stein 02-28-2014 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1106475)
I just took an article on cutters and changed the text...

Now it makes sense. Right in the middle there was a line about "Signs that your teen is cutting may include that he/she:" and I didn't understand the correlation between being a brony and cutting was.:rofl:

Davezorz 03-03-2014 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1107326)
I thought so...


:makeout: :jerkit:

Braineack 03-03-2014 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 1107385)
Now it makes sense. Right in the middle there was a line about "Signs that your teen is cutting may include that he/she:" and I didn't understand the correlation between being a brony and cutting was.:rofl:

aw damn. lol. i thought it was well played on my part though.

Splitime 03-04-2014 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1106568)
but i really do watch MLG.

Yum, MLT!

"Sonny, true love is the greatest thing, in the world-except for a nice MLT - mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe"

y8s 03-04-2014 09:43 AM

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I made a snow day BLT yesterday.

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NA6C-Guy 03-04-2014 11:54 AM

Oh you bastard. I was just thinking this morning about bacon and how good a BLT would be. I can't wait for the only good thing about summer in the south, the garden. Fresh veggies all summer and fall.

gearhead_318 03-04-2014 02:15 PM

There was bacon in my breakfast burrito.

Stein 03-04-2014 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 1108545)
I can't wait for the only good thing about summer in the south, the garden. Fresh veggies all summer and fall.

This. We don't eat bacon pretty much all year but once we have our garden tomatoes and lettuce and we have them once a week, sometimes twice.:drool:


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